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Would you consider buying a VERO after reading through some of the posts?

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churchhaze

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Positivity

Positivity

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churchhaze said:
I just realized I posted the T4 bin part number instead of the U2 one. I got worried and checked my order to make sure, and it was the correct bin, which is was.

I edited the post and put the proper part, CXB2530-0000-000N0HU230G, not T4.

http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?KeyWords=CXB2530-0000-000N0HU230G&WT.z_header=search_go
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Nice one church..haha. Yea, sometimes you need to secure the order first. Things go quickly!

I'm taking a break for now. As much as i'd like to keep upgrading i'm going to watch from the sidelines for a bit
 
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churchhaze

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I needed 12 more vero 18 immediately and the vero 18 at its current price just wasn't settling with me.

I also know the price of the cxb2530 will likely come down if you look at the price difference between getting 1 and 100. That should close quickly with how many small businesses being able to afford to get 100 no problem.

I got 11 of them at the ridiculously high price. Whatever... I'll upgrade the vero 29 build with cxb when I have the time/funds, but upgrades aren't really needed at the moment. I'm "lucky" enough to be starting from the ground up! lol

~193W dissipation of the cxb2530 3000k u2 bin at 500mA should be able to generate almost the same PAR W as 240W dissipation of vero 18 3000k at 700mA with less heat sink requirements..

Positivity said:
Nice one church..haha. Yea, sometimes you need to secure the order first. Things go quickly!

I'm taking a break for now. As much as i'd like to keep upgrading i'm going to watch from the sidelines for a bit
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SupraSPL

SupraSPL

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AquariusPanta said:
@SupraSPL

I take it the numbers for the Vero 18, version 2, will be a little better or?
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Yep I have it as:
Vero18 3K V1.2 ->350mA (10W) -> 43.2% -> $3.06/PAR W
Vero18 3K V2.0 -> 350mA (10W) -> 45.2% -> $2.87/PAR W, assuming the price is the same as Vero 1.2.
CXB2530 3K U2 ->500mA (17.5W) -> 49.1% -> $2.82/PAR W


Vero18 3K V1.2 ->700mA (20W) -> 39.6% -> $1.60/PAR W
Vero18 3K V2.0 -> 700mA (20W) -> 42.2% -> $1.51/PAR W, assuming the price is the same as Vero 1.2.
CXB2530 3K U2 ->800mA (29W) -> 44.2% -> $1.9/PAR W
 
SomeGuy

SomeGuy

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Some small progress on my latest vero project!

I have received:

10 VERO 10 5k
12v fan adapters
2 36" x 2" heatsink
4 50mm fans
2 fastech drivers good for 5 veros each (still waiting really fastech is slow)

Just ordered a bunch of angle aluminum and aluminum sheet to fabricate two cases as well. We shall see how it goes. :-)


BTW VERO10 are small.. LOL cant wait to fire them up.

Im looking forward to building with the new vero 18s this summer too. :-)
 
DonPetro

DonPetro

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I love Vero's...for someone like me who cant be bothered soldering, their features are very appealing.
SomeGuy said:
Some small progress on my latest vero project!

I have received:

10 VERO 10 5k
12v fan adapters
2 36" x 2" heatsink
4 50mm fans
2 fastech drivers good for 5 veros each (still waiting really fastech is slow)

Just ordered a bunch of angle aluminum and aluminum sheet to fabricate two cases as well. We shall see how it goes. :-)


BTW VERO10 are small.. LOL cant wait to fire them up.

Im looking forward to building with the new vero 18s this summer too. :-)
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Wish my heatsink would arrive so i can get started on my 5-vero10 @ 320mA fixture.
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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nvhak49 said:
How strong are you guys running your vero 18s for vegging? I'm thinking about 500mA but than again I see some guys on here running them at 350.
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It all depends, as you have or will eventually find out. This is why it is important to first read and analyze as much information as you can about DIY COBing.

It doesn't sound like you really know what your dealing with but that's based on observation, which is susceptible to error in some degree or another.

To answer you question constructively and not just simply, it comes down to distance from light to plant.
 
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AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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avnewb said:
I dont know what I am doing and I still made 2 lights.
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I felt the same way about my own expertise in this field of DIY early on but gradually started putting the pieces of the puzzle together, especially after creating the Crowns (which are no longer in operation).

At some point or another, you just have to say fuck it and hope all goes as intended; you're not going to get a perfect on the first attempt.
 
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nvhak49

nvhak49

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AquariusPanta said:
It all depends, as you have or will eventually find out. This is why it is important to first read and analyze as much information as you can about DIY COBing.

It doesn't sound like you really know what your dealing with but that's based on observation, which is susceptible to error in some degree or another.

To answer you question constructively and not just simply, it comes down to distance from light to plant.
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I've been reading up on them a lot but still learning new stuff everyday. I was gonna say I think it just depends on how far away from the canopy you want it. How far are yours from your plants? Only reason I'm thinking 350 is I might be able to get away with passive cooling two vero 18s on a 3.5"x 12" heat sink. I'd most likely will get cpu fans if I ran them at 500 but I'll get some fans either way just incase. I've never made any cobs but I'm gonna start small with some vegging lights than start on a flower light soon already have some ideas for that and already ordered some parts for it.
 
Mechmike

Mechmike

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nvhak49 said:
How strong are you guys running your vero 18s for vegging? I'm thinking about 500mA but than again I see some guys on here running them at 350.
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My veg light has 10 Vero 18 all driven by a single Meanwell HLG-120H-C500B. I use it for clones all the way up to when I transfer them into the flowering area. With the dimmable driver I can run at very low currents when they're real small and slowly increase the current to 500ma in the final phase of veg.IMGP0171.JPGIMGP0172.JPG
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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nvhak49 said:
I've been reading up on them a lot but still learning new stuff everyday. I was gonna say I think it just depends on how far away from the canopy you want it. How far are yours from your plants? Only reason I'm thinking 350 is I might be able to get away with passive cooling two vero 18s on a 3.5"x 12" heat sink. I'd most likely will get cpu fans if I ran them at 500 but I'll get some fans either way just incase. I've never made any cobs but I'm gonna start small with some vegging lights than start on a flower light soon already have some ideas for that and already ordered some parts for it.
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In my experience, I've had Vero 18's as close as four inches away from buds - which resulted in light bleaching. They were ran at 1050mA but were spaced out.

So as long as you have your Vero's nicely spread about, not two inches from one another and ~8 inches away from seedlings, you should be fine as long as you operate the 18's at or under 1050mA.

700mA is the sweet spot for the Vero 18 (IMO).
 
nvhak49

nvhak49

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Mechmike said:
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My veg light has 10 Vero 18 all driven by a single Meanwell HLG-120H-C500B. I use it for clones all the way up to when I transfer them into the flowering area. With the dimmable driver I can run at very low currents when they're real small and slowly increase the current to 500ma in the final phase of veg.View attachment 3359323View attachment 3359324
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Badass light dude I like it a lot nicely done, I think I'll go with the 500mA. I was just up in the air about it, now I just gotta find a decent driver to power two of them.
 
ReeferDance

ReeferDance

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Mechmike said:
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My veg light has 10 Vero 18 all driven by a single Meanwell HLG-120H-C500B. I use it for clones all the way up to when I transfer them into the flowering area. With the dimmable driver I can run at very low currents when they're real small and slowly increase the current to 500ma in the final phase of veg.View attachment 3359323View attachment 3359324
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Very sleek mike :clap:

Those are some very nice reflectors there.

nvhak49 said:
Badass light dude I like it a lot nicely done, I think I'll go with the 500mA. I was just up in the air about it, now I just gotta find a decent driver to power two of them.
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If you still aren't 100% sure on how everything is done, what I did is order some cheap stuff from overseas so I wouldn't be as heartbroken if something went bad.

2x $4 Soft-white '100 watt' COB
$25, 24V Driver
$6 Buck/Booster
$25 Heatsink (mine is probably way too small, lesson learned!)
4x $0.99 40mm 12V fans

Under that little $70 DIY is now sitting above 7 or so seedlings and they seem to be loving it :wink:

Now I am much more confident moving onto my ~150-200 watt Vero panel.
 
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