giving defoliation during flower a try

pk_boosted2

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Yes advanced has better "salts". No they have better nutrients, im not gonna get back into u can research it four yourself. I run bio canna its 1000% organic. I dont used processed man made salts in my grows. I stick to primarily organics, except for the shit u cant get that needs to be synthetic.

There is 110% a difference between nutrients. I wrote about a 4 page article on explaining that there are 4 types of nutrients. Anyone who has researched this knows this as well.. Theres commercial grade, pharma grade, lab grade and british grade. All are different because they contain dependign on the type diff contaminants, metals and additives/fillers etc.. Like saying all hamburgers at fast food restaurants are the same, NO they arent.
 

pk_boosted2

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I very rarely buy anything from dispensaries, besides occasionally grabbing some shatter or a nice CBD strain here and there. I supply dispensaries not other way around but thats cool. Another comment from peanut gallery.
 

Canon

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Your first problem is auto flowers should not be touched. Do not top them or fim them or defoliate them, they dont have time to recover. If u run an auto only stick to training them without cutting or removing branches or foliage.
I heard that. But giving the circumstances I had no choice. The plant over extended expectations. (Meaning this idiot put it in a too small cab). But it cam out considerably better than the ones after in more / better(?) growing conditions with waaay less training.
 

pk_boosted2

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I heard that. But giving the circumstances I had no choice. The plant over extended expectations. (Meaning this idiot put it in a too small cab). But it cam out considerably better than the ones after in more / better(?) growing conditions with waaay less training.
Yeah auto have def come along way since the first ones really hit the market. I got a couple customers who r all buddies that run some pretty dope autos and the yield from what they tell me is pretty astonishing. They saying the got some pineapple chunk and suttin else forget the other one and they are getting around 3-4 o's per plant.

But i do know only thing u wanna do is LST if ceiling heights r an issue. Topping or fimming anything like that is a big no no with autos as they dont have time to grow and recoop since flowering comes on so quickly. Im sure has to do w some genetic conditions as well. Ive ran some reg flowering period strains that hated topping and fimming too, just make sure research the variety and learn as much as u can before cutting anything, Alot of the autos come with information on how tall they grow. If height is a issue might wannna try some lowryders or phenos like those next time. Assuming u like autoflowering strains?! Anyways yeah bol w the grow and happy harvesting!!! Cheers
 

chuck estevez

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Yes advanced has better "salts". No they have better nutrients, im not gonna get back into u can research it four yourself. I run bio canna its 1000% organic. I dont used processed man made salts in my grows. I stick to primarily organics, except for the shit u cant get that needs to be synthetic.

There is 110% a difference between nutrients. I wrote about a 4 page article on explaining that there are 4 types of nutrients. Anyone who has researched this knows this as well.. Theres commercial grade, pharma grade, lab grade and british grade. All are different because they contain dependign on the type diff contaminants, metals and additives/fillers etc.. Like saying all hamburgers at fast food restaurants are the same, NO they arent.
 

chuck estevez

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What is in a Fertilizer?
Analysis or Grade
By law, all products sold as fertilizer require uniform labeling guaranteeing the minimum percentage of nutrients. The three-number combination (fertilizer grade or analysis) on the product identifies percentages of nitrogen (N), phosphate (P2O5), and potash (K2O), respectively. For example, a 20-10-5 fertilizer contains 20% nitrogen, 10% phosphate, and 5% potash.

Note: Phosphorus, P, is a primary nutrient in plant growth. The word phosphate, P2O5, refers to the ionic compound containing two atoms of phosphorus with five atoms of oxygen. Thephosphorus content of fertilizers is measured in percent phosphate.

Note: Potassium, K, is a primary nutrient in plant growth. The word potash, K2O, refers to the ionic compound containing two atoms of potassium with one atom of oxygen. The potassiumcontent of fertilizers is measured in percent potash.

The product may also identify other nutrients, such as sulfur, iron, and zinc, if the manufacturer wants to guarantee the amount. This may be done by placing a fourth number on the product label and identifying what nutrient was added in the ingredients.
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/mg/gardennotes/232.html#analysis
Formulation
The formulation tells what specific kinds of fertilizer are in the product. Table 1 gives examples of manufactured fertilizers that could be mixed to derive any specific analysis, ratio, or brand name.

Table 1.
Examples of Manufactured Fertilizers
Product
Nitrogen %
Phosphate %
Potash %

Ammonium nitrate
34
0
0
Ammonium sulfate
21
0
0
Urea
48
0
0
Ammoniated super-phosphate
3-6
48-53
0
Di-ammonium phosphate
11
48
0
Mono-ammonium phosphate
11
48
0
Super-phosphate
0
18-50
0
Triple super phosphate
0
46
0
Potassium chloride
0
0
60
Potassium nitrate
13
0
44
Potassium sulfate
0
0
50
Potassium-magnesium sulfate
0
0
22


What else is in the fertilizer? In a manufactured fertilizer, the grade does not add up to 100% because the fertilizer also contains other elements like carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, sulfur, iron, zinc, etc. For example, ammonium nitrate (NH4+ NO3-) has a grade of 34-0-0 with 34% of the content from nitrogen and 66% from hydrogen and oxygen. Ammonium sulfate (NH4+ SO2- has a grade of 21-0-0 with 21% from the nitrogen and 79% from the hydrogen, sulfur and oxygen.

Time release or slow release fertilizers contain coating materials or are otherwise formulated to release the nutrients over a period of time as water, heat, and/or microorganisms break down the material. [Table 2]

Table 2.
Examples of Quickly and Slowly Available Nitrogen
Quickly available nitrogenLasts 4-6 weeks

Ammonium sulfate
Ammonium nitrate
Calcium nitrate
Potassium nitrate
Urea
Slowly available nitrogenAvailable over weeks to months

Regulated by solubility or microorganism activity

Resin-coated urea
Sulfur-coated urea
Isobutylidene diurea (IBDU)
Methylene urea
Urea formaldehyde
Manure
Poultry wastes
Blood meal


In an “organic” type fertilizer, the base is decomposed or processed plant and/or animal by-products. For example, fish emulsion is ground and processed non-edible fish or fish scraps. Its nutrient content would be around 8-4-2, with 8% from nitrogen, 4% from phosphate, and 2% from potash.

Some manufactured and “organic” fertilizers contain fillers, which are used to prevent caking, control dust, derive the desired grade, or to facilitate ease of application.

Complete fertilizer is a term used to identify fertilizers that contains nitrogen, phosphorus,and potassium. In the national home garden trade, most fertilizers are complete. However, in Colorado the majority of gardens do not need phosphorus or potassium. It is advisable to avoid heavy applications of phosphate and potash when unneeded as they contribute to soil salts.​
 
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Canon

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Yeah auto have def come along way since the first ones really hit the market. I got a couple customers who r all buddies that run some pretty dope autos and the yield from what they tell me is pretty astonishing. They saying the got some pineapple chunk and suttin else forget the other one and they are getting around 3-4 o's per plant.

But i do know only thing u wanna do is LST if ceiling heights r an issue. Topping or fimming anything like that is a big no no with autos as they dont have time to grow and recoop since flowering comes on so quickly. Im sure has to do w some genetic conditions as well. Ive ran some reg flowering period strains that hated topping and fimming too, just make sure research the variety and learn as much as u can before cutting anything, Alot of the autos come with information on how tall they grow. If height is a issue might wannna try some lowryders or phenos like those next time. Assuming u like autoflowering strains?! Anyways yeah bol w the grow and happy harvesting!!! Cheers

Thank you.
 

a mongo frog

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All my finished work looks like this. Here a picture with a better camera. And i do have a good camera but i use an ipad how am i gonna upload camera photos to my ipad is a pain in the ass and i dont need to do it unless u wanna see them on here, so heres a pic i uploaded of the final trimmed pieces and a better pixel ratio with lighting u need so u can see it. Ok buddy. U hapoy now? Geez...

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this is not the fire og? yes that would move in cali. thats really nice. the fire you posted looked nothing like that.
 

a mongo frog

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because he bought that and is trying to claim it's his to save face for posting that schwag. He had 90 pgs before he came up with a good pic.
Oh shit!!!! I didn't know he did that. That guys a cold piece man. Well then, someones gardening some fire out there in those parts...
 

pk_boosted2

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Dude i got 8 lbs of the same shit i could post 100 pictures in a row of 2000 diff nugs thats wifi brotha. Same pieces i showed earlier. I just used tweezers took out all fan leaves and put it on my tile floor in front of my slider where sun came in this morning and thats what it looks like w a better camera
 

a mongo frog

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I took it with a digital camera. Do u not read the post. I showed u the diff between a digi and an ipad its called resolution and sunlight.
Dude you don't have go and hurt my feelings like that... Trying to make me sound stupid in front of all my friends here. Not cool man...
 

chuck estevez

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Dude i got 8 lbs of the same shit i could post 100 pictures in a row of 2000 diff nugs thats wifi brotha. Same pieces i showed earlier. I just used tweezers took out all fan leaves and put it on my tile floor in front of my slider where sun came in this morning and thats what it looks like w a better camera
now, i think you just boosted the pic, because that bud is not on a tile floor, or in front of the sun coming in.
 
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