Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[SouthernSoil*]

Glad i used that 30% EWC : ) Here are the babies that i just transplanted before lights off

To the right is the The Church & to the left the majestic bagseed which i think think might be ace of spades but is looking extremely sativa, getting worried its going to consume the whole canopy for itself though : ) lol - PEACE

 

[Mad Hamish]

Badass! Been a long journey for you Boet, looking stellar. You are in excellent hands on this thread, damn good to see more real organic growing from down south.

 

[SouthernSoil*]

Badass! Been a long journey for you Boet, looking stellar. You are in excellent hands on this thread, damn good to see more real organic growing from down south.

Thank you for being such a legend dude, it has been a long journey indeed, really appreciate all the help you've given me & i cannot wait till i get that all purpose tea brewing ! got to love this thread though, all you guys are awesome, i have really learnt alot & i've been slowly helping other people do the same ! Peace

 

[DonPetro]

A lot of conflicting info about amounts of worm castings in organic potting mixes. This one says 15% is optimal.
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/organic/news/2014/2014-06a3.htm

 

[st0wandgrow]

Glad i used that 30% EWC : ) Here are the babies that i just transplanted before lights off

To the right is the The Church & to the left the majestic bagseed which i think think might be ace of spades but is looking extremely sativa, getting worried its going to consume the whole canopy for itself though : ) lol - PEACE

The Church is a very nice strain despite the bad rap that Greenhouse Seeds gets. I grew that plant for many moons. It has a very unique floral aroma that transferred over to the taste 100%. Very unique.

Plants are looking great bro!

 

[a senile fungus]

@st0wandgrow

I remember reading a bit ago that you were working to reduce the number of inputs/amendments that you used to make soil.

I think I remember crab/oyster shell meal, kelp meal, neem meal, etc. What else was in there, and quantities per cf? I think there were 5 or 6 total...

Thank you very much!

 

[Mad Hamish]

A lot of conflicting info about amounts of worm castings in organic potting mixes. This one says 15% is optimal.
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/organic/news/2014/2014-06a3.htm

Agreed, more than one way to get your humic material up. Main reason I recommend EWC especially down here is that it is always waaaaay better to use than any of the crappy compost we have. Once you have your own compost heaps and leaf molds etc, cutting back on EWC makes for less stretch and less flop, but if I run out of home made compost it is back to EWC at that thirty percent ratio.

 

[SouthernSoil*]

The Church is a very nice strain despite the bad rap that Greenhouse Seeds gets. I grew that plant for many moons. It has a very unique floral aroma that transferred over to the taste 100%. Very unique.

Plants are looking great bro!

Thank you & Respect st0w, it already smells & it smells insane, i love it, just a gentle squeeze on the side branch and i smell it even more, apparently its Swiss Sativa x Northern Lights x SuperSkunk, that smell is seriously nostalgic though, almost like a hint of chron i had back in the day but surely very unique.

 

[DonPetro]

Agreed, more than one way to get your humic material up. Main reason I recommend EWC especially down here is that it is always waaaaay better to use than any of the crappy compost we have. Once you have your own compost heaps and leaf molds etc, cutting back on EWC makes for less stretch and less flop, but if I run out of home made compost it is back to EWC at that thirty percent ratio.

Agreed. Home built compost is the way to go. I just screened 10 gal of composted manure and it looks amazing.

 

[abe supercro]

Alfalfa, Fish Meal, Fish Bone Meal, and EW Castings.

 

[Mohican]

@DonPetro - any pics of the screening and finished product? I would love to see it!

Throw a bunch of weeds (especially dandelions) to get more silica. I also recommend a small handful of native clay soil mixed well per 5 gallons of potting soil. It will provide a nice mixture of beneficial minerals. Try dissolving it first in a gallon of water and pouring on your soil mix.

Clay soil is very hard to work with because of its poor drainage characteristics. However, once a plant is established in clay soil and watering is kept moderate, the plants outperform the same plants grown in light soils.

Tangerine in clay soil:






Banana with clay added to compost, ewc, super soil mix:

09-09-14:




10-27-14:




Cheers,
Mo

 

[Mad Hamish]

Agreed. Home built compost is the way to go. I just screened 10 gal of composted manure and it looks amazing.

I will get you a pic of my Bokashi-powered horse poop heap tomorrow. It is pretty damn large lol. Bokashi and horse poop makes compost damn fast wowa.

 

[Mohican]

Do you make your own Bokashi?

 

[Bueno Time]

I have a batch of newspaper that I soaked in molasses and lacto b serum for bokashi starter (takes place of the bokashi bran in between food layers). Its been sealed up in a gallon ziplock bag for 15 days now so its done, instructions I read said 10-14 days. Should there be a some mold on the paper, I know finished bokashi will be moldy when its done so I assume its ok, just want to make sure before I use any of the newspaper to start a bokashi bucket. Theres a little bit of green and white mold along the edge of the paper.

 

[DonTesla]

I would not use animal by-products if i was a caregiver/licensed producer but personally have no problem using them.

It will be interesting to compare our Rasta soil to our Vamp blend in a variety of delivery methods in just a few short months from now..

 

[DonTesla]

I have seen conflicting research thanks to DP. anyone wish there was vc studies on sensi specifically. Comparing Sativa studies to hybrid and indica ones.. Radishes are a bit far from the Mary tree, though tomatoes were studied

 

[DonTesla]

Appreciate the reply, i understand what you mean though, ill definitely try source some of it for my next run along with a few other things as it is my 1st ever indoor run. I read up some other information on myco though and apparently its no use if i already have other native microbes within my soil which should be already present due to having a 1/3 of EWC in my base mix ? Not sure how valid this is but yeah, i wont stress about not having it in this time. Thank You Don

Myco fungi bro, are HUGE. Their hyphae increase surface area of roots by 700x. they attract nutrient-packed blind nematodes. Naturally. With a chemical. The path the nematode leaves is a nutrient, gas and airway channel with nutritious exuduates. Then they choke out and pierce the nematode and feed the plant their belly nutrients.

In some species a plants roots gets infected by myco fungi and the plant uses 17% of its photosynthetic energy to feed the mycelium, but in return they get up to 70% more uptake of otherwise easily locked up nutrients. A wicked deal.

You can always add them during the final transplant after a long veg, it's profound imo, but that just me. I'm blown away by Teaming with Microbes though. It's a wild world.

Just read a bit more on them, I'm sure you'll get them whenever you can and they'll last a long time. Just be sure to wear a mask though, trust me. If you like being able to swallow, sleep, breathe properly, etc, lol. Do our transplants away from the grow room now or turn fans off. I was right in there inspecting a liberal sprinkling it lead to .. Medical research lol

 

[DonTesla]

Ps. The myco. Their mycelium can penetrate much further untapped zones with un-used nutrients that otherwise would not be available in nutrient-wiped rhizospheres, stimulating growth as opposed to stalling it out

 

[SouthernSoil*]

Ps. The myco. Their mycelium can penetrate much further untapped zones with un-used nutrients that otherwise would not be available in nutrient-wiped rhizospheres, stimulating growth as opposed to stalling it out

Thats intense ! well explained Don, that is a seriously wicked deal they have going on there, i still have to finish reading teaming with microbes but i will be done with it before the end of this year, i appreciate you telling me the risk though cause im seriously paranoid about using it in a grow thats in my bedroom, if i end up feeling like you mentioned id probably finish reading teaming with microbes by 2016. I noted down the myco for the next grow though & ill be giving it a good read. Thank you again !

 

[DonPetro]

@DonPetro - any pics of the screening and finished product? I would love to see it!

Throw a bunch of weeds (especially dandelions) to get more silica. I also recommend a small handful of native clay soil mixed well per 5 gallons of potting soil. It will provide a nice mixture of beneficial minerals. Try dissolving it first in a gallon of water and pouring on your soil mix.

Clay soil is very hard to work with because of its poor drainage characteristics. However, once a plant is established in clay soil and watering is kept moderate, the plants outperform the same plants grown in light soils.

Tangerine in clay soil:






Banana with clay added to compost, ewc, super soil mix:

09-09-14:




10-27-14:




Cheers,
Mo

I used a level from the worm bin to screen the material. The handles double as guides which fit over the sides of the tote perfectly. Then i just slide it back and forth along the bin.

Here is a portion of the finished product.

I like the texture. 1/4" fine.

This is from organically raised cattle.