Man-made global warming is a lie and not backed up by science, claims leading meteorologist.

[jahbrudda]

Here's another interesting article from NOAA itself.

What I find curious is the claim that 1983-2012 was the warmest 30 year period in the last 1400 years
One has to question how it warmed up just 1400 years ago, obviously without mans help?

"Averaged over all land and ocean surfaces, temperatures warmedroughly 1.53°F (0.85ºC) from 1880 to 2012, according to theIntergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (see page 3 of the IPCC's Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis,Summary for Policymakers - PDF). Because oceans tend to warm and cool more slowly than land areas, continents have warmed the most. In the Northern Hemisphere, where most of Earth's land mass is located, the three decades from 1983 to 2012 were likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1400 years, according to the IPCC" https://www2.ucar.edu/climate/faq/how-much-has-global-temperature-risen-last-100-years

 

[abandonconflict]

The average IQ of a denier is about 31.

Does that mean Heckler has a low IQ?

 

[jahbrudda]

so jared taylor and victor thorn are sources you trust, but NASA is not?

that's fucking loony.

So you have to resort to an ad hominem attack already tsk tsk.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, learn the difference between an ad hominem and an insult dipshit.

Your big mouth make a fool of you, learn what an hominem attack is before you insult other members who do.

 

[heckler73]

The difference is in the resonant frequency of the molecules. The definition of a green house gas is one that attenuates the re-radiation energy from the earth's surface. The H2O molecule doesn't attenuate the ir energy as much.

Think of a broad band generator with various frequency bandpass filters stacked in parallel feeding a load.

Really?




Integrate those using a typical BBR curve at 290 K for normalization. Obviously, there's no competition with liquid water (top), but I can't see how CO2 could be trumping water vapour.
And this has been known since Tyndall, at least.

 

[jahbrudda]

The average IQ of a denier is about 31.

Does that mean Heckler has a low IQ?

Why do you always have to insult people who don't agree with you???

I'm not going to speak for heckler or God1, but it looks like it's not the science they are questioning, it's the consensus claim and the hype of the politicians and media.
But that's just my observation.

 

[sheskunk]

No you wouldn't. You would just like to criticize valid solutions because you don't recognize their significance, don't believe it would change anything, don't believe humans can affect the climate, and don't understand science

Actually the only thing I criticize is the fact that nobody is ever willing to offer me any advice, solutions or even scenarios. I want to know exactly what is going to happen and what I can do to help stop it from happening. Take a chance and see if you can help me. If all you claim is true don't you want to help people change things? I am open to suggestions. Please offer me a few.

 

[abandonconflict]

Your big mouth make a fool of you, learn what an hominem attack is before you insult other members who do.

Why do you always have to insult people who don't agree with you???

I'm not going to speak for heckler or God1, but it looks like it's not the science they are questioning, it's the consensus claim and the hype of the politicians and media.
But that's just my observation.

Averages conceal extremes.

 

[UncleBuck]

So you do trust the government and the media.

nope, i trust the science.

That's a pretty radical position on a weed forum.

victor thorn and jared taylor, beenthere.

 

[UncleBuck]

And around 2/3 of the papers reviewed said don't know/unsure/need more data.

nope.

2/3 had nothing to say whatsoever.

of the papers that said anything, only about 1% said unsure/need more data. only about 2% said not humans.

the other 97% said human activities.

why you need to lie, princess?

possibly bigoted.

 

[UncleBuck]

the financial conflict of scientists who rely on government money to keep their research afloat, if they don't research AGW, they don't get grants, it's as simple as that.

Your bias is blatant.

then why do you keep ignoring the existence of people like roy spencer on the same government payrolls, beenthere?

 

[UncleBuck]

The 97% consensus crap was done by John Cook of Skeptical Science, the same John Cook that is the blogger and cartoonist, not a scientist.

The study did NOT come directly from NASA or NOAA, do your research, Mr. Understands Science.

indisputable fact: NASA found the study so valid that they have it posted on their site.

 

[UncleBuck]

I can't see how CO2 could be trumping water vapour.

when was the last time we took tens of millions of years of water vapor out of the ground and put it all into the air over the course of a century?

CO2 sinks are not as plentiful as gentle breezes or rainstorms.

 

[Milovan]

Quick break
with a random pic lol!



Ha ha ha!



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[jahbrudda]

FACT: The HadCRUT3 surface temperature index, produced by the Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, shows warming to 1878, cooling to 1911, warming to 1941, cooling to 1964, warming to 1998 and cooling through 2011. The warming rate from 1964 to 1998 was the same as the previous warming from 1911 to 1941. Satellites, weather balloons and ground stations all show cooling since 2001. The mild warming of 0.6 to 0.8 C over the 20th century is well within the natural variations recorded in the last millennium. The ground station network suffers from an uneven distribution across the globe; the stations are preferentially located in growing urban and industrial areas ("heat islands"), which show substantially higher readings than adjacent rural areas ("land use effects"). Two science teams have shown that correcting the surface temperature record for the effects of urban development would reduce the reported warming trend over land from 1980 by half. There has been no catastrophic warming recorded. - See more at: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=3#sthash.RVz9yznM.dpuf

 

[jahbrudda]

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[god1]

Really?
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Integrate those using a typical BBR curve at 290 K for normalization. Obviously, there's no competition with liquid water (top), but I can't see how CO2 could be trumping water vapour.
And this has been known since Tyndall, at least.

All right Heck, nice try; how'd you come up with these? Says Nist, their site?

You don't have access to molecular transfer functions as a function of frequency by any chance?

 

[UncleBuck]

Our Goal:
To educate the public about climate science and through them bring pressure to bear on governments to engage in public debates on the scientific merits of the hypothesis of human induced global warming and the various policies that intend to address the issue.


Our Opinion:
It is our opinion that the Sun is the main direct and indirect driver of climate change.


Friends of Science is a non-profit organization run by dedicated volunteers comprised mainly of active and retired earth and atmospheric scientists, engineers, and other professionals. We have assembled a Scientific Advisory Board of esteemed climate scientists from around the world to offer a critical mass of current science on global climate and climate change to policy makers, as well as any other interested parties. We also do extensive literature research on these scientific subjects. Concerned about the abuse of science displayed in the politically inspired Kyoto protocol, we offer critical evidence that challenges the premises of Kyoto and present alternative causes of climate change.


Our major environmental concern is the significant shift in recent years away from the important emphasis of previous decades on continual reductions in air and water pollution, to focus almost exclusively on global warming. The current obsession with global warming is misguided in that climate fluctuations are natural phenomena and we suggest that adaptation should be emphasized rather than misguided attempts at control.

- See more at: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=1#sthash.VmqTGk88.dpuf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Science

funded by the petroleum industry, dumbass.

take your own advice: "follow the money"

 

[NoDrama]

I f people in the USA really believed the hype and weren't such apathetic low information consumers, they would have installed solar panels in their home by now.

 

[Mellowman2112]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Science

funded by the petroleum industry, dumbass.

take your own advice: "follow the money"

Name calling and extreme rudeness why is that?

 

[sheskunk]

I f people in the USA really believed the hype and weren't such apathetic low information consumers, they would have installed solar panels in their home by now.

If there were any real threat it would have been mandatory by now.