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PSUAGRO.

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Haha...that is probably true. I wonder how sub and lush lightings relationship is going..?
Watching sub talk about leds is brutal to say the least......makes sense why he thinks lush panels are good. Well free is always good right?:p

sub is posting about lumigrow on instagram and pushing monster gardens tough.. Also on instagram. Oneshot was talking shit to sub about 9lb hammer hermie. Oneshot, onlyled and nicknugs had a few 9lb hermies.. It was pretty funny. Sub was saying mr spliff was disgruntled and made up the roomers. One shot called out sub on his b.s. Oneshot is sponsored by growers house
His stuff is getting some flack recently, I've heard the same from some growers I really respect on here......so it may be warranted at the prices he charges for his genetics.

When more and more growers are taking his gear out of their rotation that's pretty damming imo.......better step your game up! now with "legal “ states their is big time competition for a spot in the grow room.
 
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Greengenes707

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Sub has dealt with the bad and good businesses in town quickly in his short time in CA. But he has found the good ones now(clubs and hydroshops). I think of TGA as a a hunt...always have. Great things are in there ,but you need to find it...and a few things can pop out along the way. Just too many poly-hybrid crosses with out a stable lines introduce or worked in. Some are mor estable than others, and just know ing genetics would give the hints to that. I'm too involved in the canna world and know what actually going. I would be ok because I went in knowing what could happen based on the reality of what went on in the creation. But for a guy in a strict situation(no legal rings a bell) needing nothing but greatness in beans then tga is not my recommendation...just my 2 cents. But if you have the time you could find the next big thing.

Monster is the best in town by far and one of the top online for things too. They do have good knowledge on the products they rep. And they don't have any brand...just what they support/know work(always a few exceptions to that in a business).
They are stepping their game up with there lighting testing...since growers house set the bar and keeps raising it.

I took my at600 in there and showed it to my buddy who works there, literally 2 hours after sub was in their checking out the lumigro's...which I checked out too. Nice lights. I only lifted it up(to feel weight) and saw the spectrum graph. No data/specs. Monster is putting a review together and will be up soon.
They let me throw the AT up and use the spectroradiometer for some quick readings. That's where I got the percentages pic from in my thread. My buddy was impressed with the AT, and like the LG a lot, so we will see what the review shows. I will say what my quick impression on the light is after MG post their review.

This is going to be a novel post, so settle in....

Sub is slowly beginning to get educated on light and more scientific based methods. Slowly and from the basement floor. He was not happy at or with lush at all but knows he got suckered...he low better is out their, but need guidance before all faith is gone. MG is helping him I believe. I have a jar of HPS and LED dream for him to check out at the SF cup later this month. Basically a home town event for me and Sub.

Oneshot is just a reviewer of lights in actual use imo...more a marketing thing then official testing imo. I am not really sure what his whole goal of growing is other than just he is set with what he does, and he gets to compare lights in a general sense. I have never really hear/see his yields. And he doesn't go into depth on led tech or things that separate bad from good from great. I have never spoken/interacted with him online...just watched his videos. I would if he was around but I don't float over to IC, where he barely goes anymore. I sound like a complete idiot sometimes in my video's... so we don't know what is really rolling around oneshots' brain.
It's his apple to his apples and growers house is his only thing I would see a bias too...but he's not comparing growers house to monster...it's led to led in his system. should be general and fun to watch.

And Hyroot...he is flowering under the last years lumigro650 right now...first couple weeks of 12/12...just 2 plants. He will have a few grows going at once from now on it looks like.

Thank all you guys for the compliments too :)
 

hyroot

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Watching sub talk about leds is brutal to say the least......makes sense why he thinks lush panels are good. Well free is always good right?:p



His stuff is getting some flack recently, I've heard the same from some growers I really respect on here......so it may be warranted at the prices he charges for his genetics.

When more and more growers are taking his gear out of their rotation that's pretty damming imo.......better step your game up! now with "legal “ states their is big time competition for a spot in the grow room.
I popped 4 9lb seeds originally. 2 females , 2 males, no hermies. I lucked out. I'm still a couple of weeks away from harvest. 9lb is my fav right now. Clones may grow differently. I like plushberry too which has been discontinued. Quantum smells and looks great. Buds are smaller than others but still fill out... I really want to get some bodhi seeds.... I also recently got l.a. Con from Mo and xxx og, white fire og, and cannatonic from flyhi.. Ironically my lol brother up north said white fire is everywhere. He is growing a bunch white fire himself. Anyway on the tga's. Probably after next batch I'll choose my keepers... With the 9lbs I just got. I heard jinxproof lost the orginal father plant. So phenos in the new batch may be different.... I'd still like to try conspiracy kush and Brian berry cough...

genie I saw oneshots posts on ig about grabbing a lumigrow. I've yet to see any videos or pics of lumigrow garden going. His last was black dog or so I thought. You know the rest about apache. I told him a few times on ig and you tube to check out your grows.
 

Bad Karma

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I don't think anyone took it that way?

But thanks for the video......should be interesting for sure.
Well I'm certainly glad about that.
I could feel the sharks starting to circle and wanted to make sure that it wasn't around me.
I know Subcool is a bit of a lighting rod in the canna-world, but didn't know Oneshot was also a bit of one, himself.
But that's what I have you guys for, right?
To help keep me filled in on what my fairly well educated butt may have missed, and I will do the same for you, when applicable.
LED GURU'S UNITE!
 

hyroot

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Sub has dealt with the bad and good businesses in town quickly in his short time in CA. But he has found the good ones now(clubs and hydroshops). I think of TGA as a a hunt...always have. Great things are in there ,but you need to find it...and a few things can pop out along the way. Just too many poly-hybrid crosses with out a stable lines introduce or worked in. Some are mor estable than others, and just know ing genetics would give the hints to that. I'm too involved in the canna world and know what actually going. I would be ok because I went in knowing what could happen based on the reality of what went on in the creation. But for a guy in a strict situation(no legal rings a bell) needing nothing but greatness in beans then tga is not my recommendation...just my 2 cents. But if you have the time you could find the next big thing.

Monster is the best in town by far and one of the top online for things too. They do have good knowledge on the products they rep. And they don't have any brand...just what they support/know work(always a few exceptions to that in a business).
They are stepping their game up with there lighting testing...since growers house set the bar and keeps raising it.

I took my at600 in there and showed it to my buddy who works there, literally 2 hours after sub was in their checking out the lumigro's...which I checked out too. Nice lights. I only lifted it up(to feel weight) and saw the spectrum graph. No data/specs. Monster is putting a review together and will be up soon.
They let me throw the AT up and use the spectroradiometer for some quick readings. That's where I got the percentages pic from in my thread. My buddy was impressed with the AT, and like the LG a lot, so we will see what the review shows. I will say what my quick impression on the light is after MG post their review.

This is going to be a novel post, so settle in....

Sub is slowly beginning to get educated on light and more scientific based methods. Slowly and from the basement floor. He was not happy at or with lush at all but knows he got suckered...he low better is out their, but need guidance before all faith is gone. MG is helping him I believe. I have a jar of HPS and LED dream for him to check out at the SF cup later this month. Basically a home town event for me and Sub.

Oneshot is just a reviewer of lights in actual use imo...more a marketing thing then official testing imo. I am not really sure what his whole goal of growing is other than just he is set with what he does, and he gets to compare lights in a general sense. I have never really hear/see his yields. And he doesn't go into depth on led tech or things that separate bad from good from great. I have never spoken/interacted with him online...just watched his videos. I would if he was around but I don't float over to IC, where he barely goes anymore. I sound like a complete idiot sometimes in my video's... so we don't know what is really rolling around oneshots' brain.
It's his apple to his apples and growers house is his only thing I would see a bias too...but he's not comparing growers house to monster...it's led to led in his system. should be general and fun to watch.

And Hyroot...he is flowering under the last years lumigro650 right now...first couple weeks of 12/12...just 2 plants. He will have a few grows going at once from now on it looks like.

Thank all you guys for the compliments too :)
tga (home grown natural wonders) has a new strain available that's doesn't have any tga strains in its cross.. Sonic screw driver. Sour d x Mk ultra x ny diesel. Actually sounds good. Its supposed to be a monster yielder. More so than time wreck and agent orange
 

Bad Karma

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what's dance world? I never heard of it. I'm always on the look out for high cbd's.
It's from Royal Queen Seeds, part of their medicinal line, basically, it's Dance Hall.
I bought a three pack, and got lucky with this pheno, as it's definitely high in CBD.
She smells strongly of lime rinds, and although I haven't had her tested, my estimate is she's somewhere between 7%-10% in both THC and CBD.
BTW, speaking of high CBD strains, will you ever admit I was right about AC/DC being part Ruderalis?
 

PSUAGRO.

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I haven't done any glamor shots of my garden in awhile, so.......

Dance World (High CBD)





Timewreck (Vortex Pheno)


Timewreck (Space Queen Pheno)

Gorgeous ladies friend, the led hues don't do them justice!...............All under just A51 or still have the PS ufo's mixed in???
 

hyroot

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It's from Royal Queen Seeds, part of their medicinal line, basically, it's Dance Hall.
I bought a three pack, and got lucky with this pheno, as it's definitely high in CBD.
She smells strongly of lime rinds, and although I haven't had her tested, my estimate is she's somewhere between 7%-10% in both THC and CBD.
BTW, speaking of high CBD strains, will you ever admit I was right about AC/DC being part Ruderalis?
you quoted a dispensary ad. How is that even reputable. I still say its a sister pheno to cannatonic

http://www.medicaljane.com/review/acdc-strain-is-a-phenotype-of-cannatonic-high-in-cannabidiol-cbd/

I have cannatonic. And hopefully its that pheno. The person I got it from said it hadn't been tested yet but they have high hopes for it.

read the issue of high times from either Feb or march. The one that covered the Amsterdam cup. It was one of the winners for the cbd category.. Cannatonic. / ac/dc from resin seeds
 
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Bad Karma

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Gorgeous ladies friend, the led hues don't do them justice!...............All under just A51 or still have the PS ufo's mixed in???
Thank you, sir.
It's a mix of two A51 lights and four PS Illuminators.

you quoted a dispensary ad. How is that even reputable. I still say its a sister pheno to cannatonic

http://www.medicaljane.com/review/acdc-strain-is-a-phenotype-of-cannatonic-high-in-cannabidiol-cbd/

I have cannatonic. And hopefully its that pheno. The person I got it from said it hadn't been tested yet but they have high hopes for it.

read the issue of high times from either Feb or march. The one that covered the Amsterdam cup. It was one of the winners for the cbd category.. Cannatonic. / ac/dc from resin seeds
The writers of the article you linked are confusing AC/DC with Cannatonic X.
Cannatonic X was the 22:1 CBD/THC pheno.
But that cut didn't stay in the clubs long, and soon became hard to find, that's when AC/DC stepped in as the high CBD cutting, with a 19:1 CBD/THC ratio.
Just because you don't want to believe the fact that AC/DC has Ruderalis in it, doesn't make it true.
 

hyroot

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Thank you, sir.
It's a mix of two A51 lights and four PS Illuminators.



The writers of the article you linked are confusing AC/DC with Cannatonic X.
Cannatonic X was the 22:1 CBD/THC pheno.
But that cut didn't stay in the clubs long, and soon became hard to find, that's when AC/DC stepped in as the high CBD cutting, with a 19:1 CBD/THC ratio.
Just because you don't want to believe the fact that AC/DC has Ruderalis in it, doesn't make it true.
just because you believe what a bud tender at a dispensary says doesn't make it true. Show me something other than a dispensary ad. I'm pretty sure that dispensary is confused. They seem to be the only one in the world saying its a ruderalis cross. When everyone else says its a sister pheno to cannatonic.

btw that link is Nikka T's site. That is far more reputable than some dispensary
 
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Bad Karma

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you quoted a dispensary ad. How is that even reputable.
I have cannatonic. The person I got it from said it hadn't been tested yet but they have high hopes for it.
just because you believe what a bud tender at a dispensary says doesn't make it true.
You do you realize that what is quoted above completely contradicts itself, right?
AC/DC having a ruderalis parent is the only story I heard from the get go, via the internet, and in conversation.
Now people (like you) are confusing things because they don't want to believe a ruderalis cross is anything other than a "sub breed".
 

hyroot

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You do you realize that what is quoted above completely contradicts itself, right?
AC/DC having a ruderalis parent is the only story I heard from the get go, via the internet, and in conversation.
Now people (like you) are confusing things because they don't want to believe a ruderalis cross is anything other than a "sub breed".
how is that a contradiction? Pull out your dictionary. So far just hearsay. No actual documentation from you. I don't think a publication that's been around for 30+ years would misprint about cannatonic = ac/dc. They do have standards despite .
 

Bad Karma

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how is that a contradiction?
Seriously?!
You can't see the correlation between exhibit A:
The person I got it from said it hadn't been tested yet but they have high hopes for it.
and exhibit B:
just because you believe what a bud tender at a dispensary says doesn't make it true.
I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.

So far just hearsay. No actual documentation from you.
Now first off, it was you who went looking for AC/DC clones, and I was the one who told you where to find them.
So I love how I'm being belittled as the uninformed one here.

source: http://synergycbd.com/cdb-rich-strains/
 

hyroot

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Seriously?!
You can't see the correlation between exhibit A:


and exhibit B:

I don't know how to make it any clearer than that.


Now first off, it was you who went looking for AC/DC clones, and I was the one who told you where to find them.
So I love how I'm being belittled as the uninformed one here.

source: http://synergycbd.com/cdb-rich-strains/
saying the person I got the cannatonic from doesn't know the cbd content and implying you are gullible for believing a bud tender is in no way a contradiction. That's just what happened.. Again get a dictionary. That's the same dispensary ad you quoted before. C'mon now.
 
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PetFlora

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We are now up to 8 off topic posts and counting

This is another fine example of thread destroyers

with a repeat offender

Do you not know how to PM?


:wall::wall::wall:
 

hyroot

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We are now up to 8 off topic posts and counting

This is another fine example of thread destroyers

with a repeat offender

Do you not know how to PM?


:wall::wall::wall:

thank you police man (sarcasm ) who cares. The first 100 pages covers enough. This is a grow forum, is it not.?
 

Greengenes707

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I had sour tsunami. Allegedly testing at 10% CBD...allegedly

Turned out to be 9% THC and no CBD. Made me look like an idiot at the club. So from now on I get my shit tested before I go so I have all the true info in hand and hard to say no to me when I have legit an impressive lab results to back up the stanly dankies that they are looking at/smelling.

All about finding that one pheno...and then verifying the results.
 

Bad Karma

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saying the person I got the cannatonic from doesn't know the cbd content and implying you are gullible for believing a bud tender is in no way a contradiction.
Hyroot, do me a favor, try replacing the word "person" with "bud tender" in that sentence.
Do you see the contradiction yet?
Again get a dictionary.
Okay, how about Dictionary.com?
Definitions #3 and #4 both apply to your statements.
Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/contradiction?s=t



All of this bickering, just because you believe ruderalis is a sub-breed, and nothing good can come from it.
The name AC/DC itself references two things coming together, originally alternating and direct current, but in this case, photoperiod and autoflower.
 
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