US college professor demands imprisonment for climate-change deniers

[Beefbisquit]

Pretty bold assumption to say they wont fail sooner than 8 years.

Not an assumption, backed by evidence and extensive testing. What is your assertion that they will fail before 8 years based on?

 

[Beefbisquit]

You are aware the energy used to produce the cars/batteries and then the electricity used to charge them makes E cars actually come off worse environmentally than gas powered cars?

You're betting on the wrong horse, Iv seen theoretical plans for hydrogen fuel cell powered cars that use solar power to electrolyse the water.

The only thing you put into it is water, and its only output is water. And it can theoretically use the solar panels all day to produce a reserve of hydrogen for night time driving.

Far from a working prototype last time I checked, but the theory is sound assuming things keep getting smaller...

Big Oil is shitting themselves over a concept like that, not your plug in go-karts.

At the very least you could've gone with the gasoline powered generator running electric drive train models, theyre even moar cost efficient than pure electrics and still have the reliability of gas.

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I already stated I didn't have the calculations to figure out if the cost is higher producing electricity than to refine and sell gas. I'm not going to take anyone's 'word' for it, regardless of how adamant they are about it without seeing actual data.

There's absolutely no reason solar energy couldn't be used to charge or at the very least, supplement the charge of electric cars. Hell, there's no reason the roof of a car can't be a solar panel.

 

[Beefbisquit]

These car batteries are like flight engines. We have a TTO, a Time to Overhaul, we must follow, There is a lot of stuff we must follow.. So, in the total cost of ownership, we fly by the hour. Fuel, oil and maintenance. Also Engine Reserve.

Every hour is one off the Engine Reseve ususally 1500 - 2000 hr and a $25,000+ overhaul.

So, the hidden cost of these E-cars is the Battery Reserve. It is easily another $100 a month, $12K a year. ($1200/ year actually, significantly less than the price of gas for a year)

So, it doesn't make a bit of sense, except to assuage your dippy sensisbiites, and I know several Dippies with Prius, Leaf, etc, (I don't think those are very viable E.car options. Cars like the Tesla have much further range.)

Ford CEO: Battery Is Third of Electric Car Cost
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304432704577350052534072994
Speaking at a forum on green technology on Monday, Ford Motor Co. f -0.13% Chief Executive Alan Mulally indicated battery packs for the company's Focus electric car costs between $12,000 and $15,000 apiece. (What's the price on the average car for a brand new engine and transmission?)

http://green.autoblog.com/2013/06/20/nissan-leaf-battery-replacement-will-cost-100-month/
Jun 20, 2013 - Nissan announces a $100/month battery replacement program for the ... Under an expanded New Electric Vehicle Limited Warranty, Nissan ...

The very word, GREEN is a shameful use an important color, to me.
(Do you buy extended warranties at Best buy? Same idea, same con.)

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

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I already stated I didn't have the calculations to figure out if the cost is higher producing electricity than to refine and sell gas. I'm not going to take anyone's 'word' for it, regardless of how adamant they are about it without seeing actual data.

There's absolutely no reason solar energy couldn't be used to charge or at the very least, supplement the charge of electric cars. Hell, there's no reason the roof of a car can't be a solar panel.

why the fuck would i replace my roof with solar panels? it's a roof not a panel board, jack. mayeb a quarter panel would work but mine are all dented up so I don't see how a solar panel on my dually is gonna charge the battery. This is why your on riu and not a truck enginere like hank ferd. beside the obvious that we would drain the suns energy everything about this is a horibble idea. why not come up with a real solution to problems like a machine that dispenses food? fuckin hippies always wasting there time on earth.

 

[Mindmelted]

http://rollitup.org/t/us-college-professor-demands-imprisonment-for-climate-change-deniers.815040/page-40#post-10407979

I already stated I didn't have the calculations to figure out if the cost is higher producing electricity than to refine and sell gas. I'm not going to take anyone's 'word' for it, regardless of how adamant they are about it without seeing actual data.

There's absolutely no reason solar energy couldn't be used to charge or at the very least, supplement the charge of electric cars. Hell, there's no reason the roof of a car can't be a solar panel.

You do know that solar panels are very dirty to produce right!!!!!!

 

[Mindmelted]

Not an assumption, backed by evidence and extensive testing. What is your assertion that they will fail before 8 years based on?

A lame person down the street owns a E car and they had to replace the battery bank at a cost of $9,000

 

[Beefbisquit]

why the fuck would i replace my roof with solar panels? it's a roof not a panel board, jack. mayeb a quarter panel would work but mine are all dented up so I don't see how a solar panel on my dually is gonna charge the battery. This is why your on riu and not a truck enginere like hank ferd. beside the obvious that we would drain the suns energy everything about this is a horibble idea. why not come up with a real solution to problems like a machine that dispenses food? fuckin hippies always wasting there time on earth.

I didn't say replace. I said cars could be produced with panels on the roof, or anywhere for that matter.

You won the argument against something I didn't say, congrats.

 

[Beefbisquit]

According to Stats Canada, the average work commute is about 30 mins. For the average person, not driving a dual-wheel diesel that pulls a horse trailer or some other specialty item, the 480km range is more than enough.

I never said electric cars would straight up replace all combustion engines either, but it's an easy way to reduce green house gases when they're used in conjunction with other technologies. Why not have large charging stations that have massive solar banks, or that run off of other renewable energy, like wind, or hydro? Not only could they charge cars, but they could also help power portions of populace.

Germany has some incredible solar power stations, smaller scale operations could help steer away from the use of fossil fuels.

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

According to Stats Canada, the average work commute is about 30 mins. For the average person, not driving a dual-wheel diesel that pulls a horse trailer or some other specialty item, the 480km range is more than enough.

I never said electric cars would straight up replace all combustion engines either, but it's an easy way to reduce green house gases when they're used in conjunction with other technologies. Why not have large charging stations that have massive solar banks, or that run off of other renewable energy, like wind, or hydro? Not only could they charge cars, but they could also help power portions of populace.

Germany has some incredible solar power stations, smaller scale operations could help steer away from the use of fossil fuels.

"stats canada" how about you give us something we can work with? fossil fuels are the greatest fuels ever invented. We don't have all the data in to prove that we won't drain all the juice from the son by stealing its power. kinda like how wind power will eventually slow down all the winds to a trickle and that would truly overheat the planet. fossil fuels for life

 

[Beefbisquit]

"stats canada" how about you give us something we can work with? fossil fuels are the greatest fuels ever invented. We don't have all the data in to prove that we won't drain all the juice from the son by stealing its power. kinda like how wind power will eventually slow down all the winds to a trickle and that would truly overheat the planet. fossil fuels for life

What the shit are you talking about? Collecting solar energy isn't going to 'use up the sun' quicker... lol

In the 2011 NHS, commuters were also asked how long it usually took them to get from home to work. In 2011, commuters spent an average of 25.4 minutes travelling to work. This was almost the same as the average in the United States for the same year (25.5 minutes).Note 3

The longest average travel times in CMAs were in Toronto (32.8 minutes), Oshawa (31.8 minutes) and Montréal (29.7 minutes) (Table 2). Comparatively, in the United States in 2011, the longest average travel times were reported in the New York - Northern New Jersey - Long Island metropolitan area (34.7 minutes) and the Washington Arlington Alexandria metropolitan area (33.8 minutes).

These average travel times do not reflect the experience of all commuters. For some, travel times are considerably longer. In Canada, 17.2% of commuters usually took 45 minutes or more to get to work. Commuters who lived in the area surrounding the Toronto CMA were the most likely to be in this group. In 2011, 29.9% of commuters in Oshawa, 28.4% of those in Toronto and 26.6% of those in Barrie spent 45 minutes or more travelling to work (Table 2).

Table 2 Usual commuting time to work, census metropolitan areas, 2011

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

What the shit are you talking about? Collecting solar energy isn't going to 'use up the sun' quicker... lol

bull shit the son will explode because of the resistance that builds up if its rays can't reflect back off the planet.

 

[Doer]

Even you Sir Beefy.

 

[Beefbisquit]

bull shit the son will explode because of the resistance that builds up if its rays can't reflect back off the planet.

In like 5 billion years?

 

[Doer]

That's not exactly how main sequence works, however.

 

[UncleBuck]

A lame person down the street owns a E car and they had to replace the battery bank at a cost of $9,000

that's some fine evidence set you got there!

n=1 is not exactly a good sample size.

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

In like 5 billion years?

If we leave it alone. If we start draining the juice it's gonna accellerate the decline of the son it will be just like climit change how we are heating up the air too fast and are hole planet will become an underwater desert. The son acts just like a nuculer reacter and if it don't get cooled down through the convection of our air it's gonna start overheating and have a meltdown just like fukishima. Calculators are proof that climate change is actually caused by us humans internveining in nature. Nobody heard about climit change before calculators were invented but one everyone started using them they stole so much power from the son that it has caused the son to grow and thats why are planet is climit changing. Just imagine what all these panels out on californians houses are actually doing to the climit change.

 

[Beefbisquit]

No words can express the fail.

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

No words can express the fail.

you can nay say all you want but these are just facts. they even denied Jesus at first. like einstein said to every action their is a reaction just like how a butterfly flapping it's wings in africa can unleash a hurricane in America.

 

[Beefbisquit]

you can nay say all you want but these are just facts. they even denied Jesus at first. like einstein said to every action their is a reaction just like how a butterfly flapping it's wings in africa can unleash a hurricane in America.

Jesus wasn't the son of god. But that's another story.....

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

Jesus wasn't the son of god. But that's another story.....

yeah right buddy I know in my hart he is as does the rest of America. So why not stop spamming up these websites and actually add something to the converstation.