I'm poor an can't afford ph down any other ways of lowering ph?

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kermit2692

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Dr.J20 said:
so about.com blog posts now count as good research? i can find blog posts that say it does harm your credit. indeed, the link you posted says it could harm your credit, just as you pointed out, in the event that you have to go through a collection agency because the cell company sends one. but this has all gotten way too far afield. be easy
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No I already know that's right though i've already done my research..and exactly, just as I pointed out...lol hey I was amused by the thread and everybody can pick out something they learned today, no Harm done this internet BS is all in fun for me :blsmoke:
 
Brittle

Brittle

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fir3dragon said:
i did offer reasonable advice and just for you, i will go back with everything i said and tell you the advice given in simple terms

"if you cant afford ph down, how do you afford electric".. common sense right? ph down is a once a month thing just like electic.. it is for me anyways only i use ph up...

"there isnt a specfic formula to add you need a ph meter if you cant afford the minimum dont grow instead of buying weed buy the meter" to my knowledge there isnt a formula until you add it and measure it to see if its correct... he does need a ph meter since hes in coco and a ph meter is minimum and should be bought with everything else.....

screw all the typing ill just fuckin put it down easier...
i corrected his ph.. he said 5.7-5.8.. i out 5.5-6.0 he also mentioned test drops.. i said they are shit.. which in my opinion they are.. i told him to get a ph meter, calibration soluton and if needed storage solution...

he claimed he uses the best.. i said i wanted to see pics... and then we got into the piss and shit part of the plants... i believe i said plenty of advice...
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I can't afford ph down because paying rent you already know. About the ka form I realize I need a ph meter but for now I can only guess that's why I asked people's opinion and just cause my ph aim is finer than yours dosnt mean anything hence it's right in the middle of 5.5-6.0 and I'm still trying to find pics of older grows I can't even figure out how to upload anyway
 
Julius Caesar

Julius Caesar

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On my first grow I think I caused more damage using PH UP / Down than it was worth.

I have been top dressing with 1 tsp lime every feeding and it helps keep everything stable.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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When I was your age, I was so poor I didn't even have a pot plant to piss in. So poor, I couldn't even pay attention.
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
If your doing hydro or aero and cant afford the most basic things your done. You need ph up and ph down about $18 for both together at wal mart just get the 2 lb pool granuales. You have to have a ph pen and really truely a tds/ppm meter
 
Dirf

Dirf

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fir3dragon said:
there are kids that grow though that are under 18. i was when i first started growing... but now looking back.. i agree...



lmfao. he prolly has apollo or ipower.... plus rep since no like...
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Hey man my Ipower got me thru my first grow to buy better more reliable equipment :).
 
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churchhaze

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You are just ignorant. The reason you think they contain "god knows what" is because you don't understand chemistry or botany.

I make my own hydroponic nutrients with raw salts. I know EXACTLY what's in it. It's people growing organically who have no idea what's in their dirt.

It's dirt that may have stuff in it (lead, mercury, aluminum, arsenic, etc) that you didn't know about.

The reason "god knows what" is in "chemical ferts" is because he read the ingredients.

whitebb2727 said:
Brittle, do what you got to. Your smart enough to know that your not smoking piss. Anyone using chemical ferts are ingesting god knows what, they are way worse than some piss.
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churchhaze

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Vinegar and lemon juice are really poor choices to use as pH down. You really need to shell out and get either nitric, phosphoric, or sulfuric acid based pH down, and like a lot of people have said, you probably shouldn't even be chasing pH unless you have extremely hard water.

A lot of this thread is full of misinformation.
 
Brittle

Brittle

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I'm using heavy salt based nutes so I have really high ph and it's causing zinc and cal defficencys and who knows what else
 
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churchhaze

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Bullshit kid. There's no way you're getting a house without good credit and a good source of income...

And guess what, your credit score will affect your INTEREST RATES meaning you will pay more if you screw up now and you won't be forgiven for any mistakes you makes for 7 years! That means if you fuck up now and it takes you 2 years to fix your mistakes, it will be 9 years before you will ever be able to borrow again.

Also, you can't even get an apartment these days without good credit. You could end up homeless over a stupid number.

fir3dragon said:
save up 10-15k to put down on the house and im sure ull get it...
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