zoloft with hallucinogens ?

D3monic

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It's been a long time since I have been on a good trip having only experimented with ass loads of LSD and some Mushies. Even dramamine a few times but for years I have always wanted to try peyote or ayah tea but I must admit I am a little nervous.

My brother is Schizophrenic after doing cid his first couple times (may or may not of been trigger)

I still have visuals to this day (been 13 years since last drop) so part of me is a little nervous I may never come back if I trip again. While the part of me that used to absolutely love acid is begging for me to drop.

Anyhow, I have access to a few item's and have been considering it but I am currently on Zoloft and I am a little concerned that there may be some kind of horrible reaction between the two. I would never of agreed to take the shit if I had known it would have so many reactions and side effects.

I guess my question extends to those that happen to be on Zoloft and have experimented with hallucinogens.

Did it cause you any abnormal reactions?

I do know I need to get in a cleaner state of mind cause this divorce drama might push me in the wrong direction while on a journey.
 

MrEDuck

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There is a horrible interaction. The Zoloft will greatly reduce the effects of the LSD (or pretty much any other hallucinogen). There's two solutions to this, neither of which is very desirable. The first is to blast your way through the Zoloft by taking a much larger dose. The problem is that no one can predict how much it will take. Maybe 300ug would be enough, maybe you need 500ug. The problem is LSD hasn't been available in known doses since Bear or maybe the Brotherhood. So unless you happen to be close personal friends with whoever is doing Sands' job these days or you rob Prof Nichols' lab you aren't getting a known dose so titration is impossible. The other is to take a two week break from your Zoloft. Which means two weeks of feeling off at least. And probably not being in the best mental place for your trip. Which already seems to be true.
As for ayahuasca DO NOT TRY IT ON AN SSRI or similar medication. The MAOI needed to make the DMT orally active will interact with the SSRI and cause serotonin syndrome and the onset of the DMT will exacerbate it. At best you'll just wish you were dying. At worst you'll have a seizure and choke on your own vomit.
 

shroomer7

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Damn dog... In your case I say, maby skip the Z the day you trip, start with a small dose and work your way up through out the trip, Be carfull not to over due it.
 

D3monic

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There is a horrible interaction. The Zoloft will greatly reduce the effects of the LSD (or pretty much any other hallucinogen). There's two solutions to this, neither of which is very desirable. The first is to blast your way through the Zoloft by taking a much larger dose. The problem is that no one can predict how much it will take. Maybe 300ug would be enough, maybe you need 500ug. The problem is LSD hasn't been available in known doses since Bear or maybe the Brotherhood. So unless you happen to be close personal friends with whoever is doing Sands' job these days or you rob Prof Nichols' lab you aren't getting a known dose so titration is impossible. The other is to take a two week break from your Zoloft. Which means two weeks of feeling off at least. And probably not being in the best mental place for your trip. Which already seems to be true.
As for ayahuasca DO NOT TRY IT ON AN SSRI or similar medication. The MAOI needed to make the DMT orally active will interact with the SSRI and cause serotonin syndrome and the onset of the DMT will exacerbate it. At best you'll just wish you were dying. At worst you'll have a seizure and choke on your own vomit.
Ok thanks, and this is exactly what I may have expected... I should of googled zoloft before I said shit sure why not. It was just for anxiety attacks. She was hopping it would lessen the need for xanax (weed works better than either. only need xanax if I have been out a few days)

I am really scared to go off the zoloft because of the symtoms. I take it at 8am, it has such a short half life that if I take it at 11 I already feel sick, nautious, WORST headache ever ect... I also start getting really angry. I also noticed that for some reason it does not mix with Jack Daniels at all. Even one shot will have me waking up at 2am with a skull cracking headache that has me wishing I had a pistol by the bed to relieve the pressure. Tequila and beer on the other hand don't do that at all unless I drink way too much but I almost never do that.

Anyhow I digress... I guess my goodies are off the plate until I can get weened off the zoloft. I just read lots of really bad horror stories of shit people go through getting off it.

Thanks Duck, you very well may have saved my life.
 

MrEDuck

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Thanks Duck, you very well may have saved my life.
Thats why I try to do this. I firmly believe that every casualty of the drug war is tragic and preventable. Thank you for acknowledging that, it feels good to be reminded. And I've gotten shit for providing information way too many times. People often don't realize that people are going to do what they're going to do wether they know how to do it safely or not. Ignorance is the biggest killer when it comes to drugs.

Getting off SSRIs can be tough, but with the exception of Paxil they're not as bad as SNRIs. Tapering is the way to go. And if you can get tryptophan a 5-10g daily dose will help you rebuild your serotonin. Weed helps, as does low doses of benzos. Becareful with them, I'm sure you know why since you mentioned Xanax. If you don't mind my asking what's the root of your anxiety? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to discuss it publicly.
 

D3monic

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Not really sure, a lot happned at the same time. I was having allergic reactions to all kinds of stuff, pinched nerve in my back and a divorce... I deal with my ex, I have an attack, I get around mold I have an attack (that xanax helps) this is different from my regular allergy symtoms.

Hell i didn't even have most these allergies until the pinched nerve. reading some homeopathic stuff they say that a pinched nerve can throw a lot of things out of whack in your body including causing allergies. don't know how true that is though.

I did notice a decrease in my anger issues with the zoloft which is the main reason I stay on it. I guess I am a bit bipolar and never knew it because when I smoke I am chill, nice , compassionate and extremly loving... when i wasn't smoking I was snapping all the time, raging, biting peoples heads off for no reason... could of been the massive amounts of testosterone my body was producing from losing the 70lbs, and doing p90x and insanity like a mad man.

So basically I stay on it now because I am scared that coming off I may hurt someone or myself especially with the divorce drama.
 

high|hgih

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Heres my piece.
I had been taking prozac(fluoxetine) for maybe 3 months? And just recently stopped. I never did much psychedelics while using.. Its kinda funny, but I did use 4 ho met a lot. Something was missing.. The trip was boring.. The visuals, the grin, it was all there. But something wasn't. Maybe 4 ho is different? I doubt it though. I had a good time but.. It was annoying, I just wanted to be able to see correctly so I could watch american dad. Thats not trippin me. No. Trippin me loves everything. Trippin me will fuck your mother.

Anyways, I stopped taking it maybe a week ago. I already feel loosened. I'm taking 2c-e sometime this weekend, I'm sure there will be a noticeable difference as far as my entertainment goes.. Maybe I was just in a bad mood that day.. But I don't think thats what it was. Anxiety.. Depression.. Anger.. They all just come with living. You seem normal, I mean your not fuckin nuts are you? I hate that people gets theses stupid ass meds for no reason. Almost every time anyone takes anti depressants or anti anxiety or ADD, they always stop. Its like, you grow, understanding that there is a medicinal way out. Then when its granted to you, you dont like it because all its doing is raising seratonin, and god knows what else. You may as well eat right, and get sleep!
 
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