Sunshinetoday
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Negative opinions about rso https://www.rehabcenter.net/rick-simpson-oil-dangers/
Your opinions on this (rso)?
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Fadedawg
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The name of the center should give a clue as to their perceptual bias, but they make some good points, albeit missing a key one with regard to using V&PM Grade Naphtha. Naptha is a mixture of different boiling point compounds falling withing a specific boiling range, and that range includes benzene, a known carcinogen. Early on Rick and I debated that point on a radio show.
I also critiqued the high levels of residual solvent using the rice cooker purge method, to which he noted that they tie up the liver processing them, so as to leave the cannabinoids in our system longer. We thought that was a good point, without saluting it, so started adding coconut oil to our fully purged concentrates to achieve that same end.
What we owe Rick Simpson credit and respect for, was not the process, but his proving that phytocannabinoids can jump start our bodies endocannabinoid systems, which controls our immune system, and restore apoptosis, causing the tumor to commit suicide. It really doesn't cure the cancer, our own immune system does, just as it was designed to do, when functioning properly.
He was of course persecuted for those views and fled prosecution at one point.
As to the rest of the article, concentrate extracted with ethanol using the QWET process, will contain the cannabinoids that you covet, and not be pernicious if you don't get it all out. If you extract below -18C/0F, and control your soak time, you can avoid picking up undesirable non targeted elements like chlorophyll and plant waxes.
I also critiqued the high levels of residual solvent using the rice cooker purge method, to which he noted that they tie up the liver processing them, so as to leave the cannabinoids in our system longer. We thought that was a good point, without saluting it, so started adding coconut oil to our fully purged concentrates to achieve that same end.
What we owe Rick Simpson credit and respect for, was not the process, but his proving that phytocannabinoids can jump start our bodies endocannabinoid systems, which controls our immune system, and restore apoptosis, causing the tumor to commit suicide. It really doesn't cure the cancer, our own immune system does, just as it was designed to do, when functioning properly.
He was of course persecuted for those views and fled prosecution at one point.
As to the rest of the article, concentrate extracted with ethanol using the QWET process, will contain the cannabinoids that you covet, and not be pernicious if you don't get it all out. If you extract below -18C/0F, and control your soak time, you can avoid picking up undesirable non targeted elements like chlorophyll and plant waxes.
Fadedawg
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With regard to effectiveness, we had both experiences providing concentrates pro bono to end of life or seriously ill patients, many of whom had already expended all options available to them through western medicine. Some were miraculously cured, and some died anyway.
Those whom had already wiped out their immune systems with chemotherapy or radiation, had the lowest recovery rate, as there didn't appear to be enough left to jump start.
We also provided concentrates to patients whom then discussed with their doctors and decided not to risk drug interactions. All of those patients are dead, but we don't know if they would be even with the concentrate.
The difference between us and Rick Simpson, is that strictly obeyed OMMP rules and as non doctors, we never published our successes, but let the patients run through the streets shouting its a miracle themselves.
Those whom had already wiped out their immune systems with chemotherapy or radiation, had the lowest recovery rate, as there didn't appear to be enough left to jump start.
We also provided concentrates to patients whom then discussed with their doctors and decided not to risk drug interactions. All of those patients are dead, but we don't know if they would be even with the concentrate.
The difference between us and Rick Simpson, is that strictly obeyed OMMP rules and as non doctors, we never published our successes, but let the patients run through the streets shouting its a miracle themselves.
gwpharms
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I think Rick Simpson suggested naphtha and other denatured solvents because there is a lot of people/places that can not get ethanol. The product and process are not Rick's invention he just spread the word of how its been done for years and offered 101 variations on how to do it with what one has available to them. He did make claims that I didn't like more or less saying it was THE cure
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Fadedawg
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Rick's perspective that cannabis was the great panacea was influenced by the results that he was seeing.
We saw some astounding results with other diseases from acne to Hep C as well, and after Dr Robert Melamede put the actions of phytocannabinoids on our bodies endocannabinoid systems into perspective, it made a lot more sense.
Had Rick had that insight by training and experience to have said that instead of it being a universal cure, he would have fared better, but without medical credentials he was predictably excoriated and pilloried.
In all fairness to both Rick and the medical community, little was known about our bodies endocannabinoid systems at the time by even our learned professionals.
We saw some astounding results with other diseases from acne to Hep C as well, and after Dr Robert Melamede put the actions of phytocannabinoids on our bodies endocannabinoid systems into perspective, it made a lot more sense.
Had Rick had that insight by training and experience to have said that instead of it being a universal cure, he would have fared better, but without medical credentials he was predictably excoriated and pilloried.
In all fairness to both Rick and the medical community, little was known about our bodies endocannabinoid systems at the time by even our learned professionals.