Young grower in love with old school strain!

Simple question wich breeder have the real seed for of all those old school strain!
Skunk 1
Northern Light
White widow
Fries Land
M-39
Purple Haze
Big Bud
Thank you

Ceres seems to have a good White widow but i have heard alot of bad thing about ceres

for true old school white widow go to the true breeder. Mr nice seedbank and look under the strain Black widow.
He also as a NL hybrid known as Ortega
He also as Skunk#1 under the name Shit.
Check his Critical mass (Big Bud)

If their to expensive look at Seedsmans versions.

Purple haze today are fake, as true PH would have just been normal haze from a cold area.
Today its inbred with something purple. Get a good haze hybrid and let it get cold works


M39 dont think i eared of it


and freisland you wont find pure

Thank you for fast responding
Gonna take a look at this Mr.nice for sure

I'd check out Flying Dutchman the pure if you want a good skunk #1

TFD have good stuff but since their original breeder sold up to sensi, well sensi have taken it their way.

Seedsman as skunk#1 dirrect from sam skunkman, pretty good prices to. and most of the others TFD have but without being so inbred

Yep, I agree you are a young. I would consider NONE of those strains "old school".

Temis420(Qc) said:

Ceres seems to have a good White widow but i have heard alot of bad thing about ceres

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Temis, I am now growing Ceres, White Panther...I grew it several years ago when it was labeled White Smurf...I think the genetics are the same...The product I got from them was top shelf, pricey but I got what I paid for...Keep in mind that the advise you read here is only worth what you pay for it...Mine included.

http://www.sensibleseeds.com/product.php?productid=24720&cat=1584&page=1

Also, years ago I grew "Freezeland". I think Frieseland & Freezeland are the same but I am not sure...The Freezeland I grew came from Quebec Seed Bank...Freezeland was great dope & good yield as I remember...I would also look at AMS, Amsterdam Marijuana Seed, check out the genetics under the strain names...I have hobby grower friend with lots of experience that believes AMS product (i don't remember which strain name) is pretty close to old school Skunk...I have some in a zip sure smells and tastes old school...FWIW

Jamaican Black, Columbian Gold, Thai
Those are my fav. old school in order.
The Road kill skunk from the 80's is my fav. skunk
Since then they have become too sweet+less pungent

Atleast the ones I've popped so far...Suggestions are welcome!

Natural Gas said:

Temis, I am now growing Ceres, White Panther...I grew it several years ago when it was labeled White Smurf...I think the genetics are the same...The product I got from them was top shelf, pricey but I got what I paid for...Keep in mind that the advise you read here is only worth what you pay for it...Mine included.

http://www.sensibleseeds.com/product.php?productid=24720&cat=1584&page=1

Also, years ago I grew "Freezeland". I think Frieseland & Freezeland are the same but I am not sure...The Freezeland I grew came from Quebec Seed Bank...Freezeland was great dope & good yield as I remember...I would also look at AMS, Amsterdam Marijuana Seed, check out the genetics under the strain names...I have hobby grower friend with lots of experience that believes AMS product (i don't remember which strain name) is pretty close to old school Skunk...I have some in a zip sure smells and tastes old school...FWIW

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Yeah its same Friesland and Freezeland Friesland are just the real name ... I came from quebec i already got some Friesland Pink seed but i wanted to get hook on some FriesLand no Pink in it!

Thank you all for all those info pretty apreciated

True UK cheese is only Skunk#1 clone kept since the 80's

B Buddah sells Freeze cheese (freezland x UK Cheese)

But most seed versions of cheese aint like the clone...

Temis420(Qc) said:

Simple question wich breeder have the real seed for of all those old school strain!
Skunk 1
Northern Light
White widow
Fries Land
M-39
Purple Haze
Big Bud
Thank you

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That's a tall order.

There's a separate open thread on Skunk #1, look there. Sam the Skunkman (as he is known) was the original breeder. When you identify the best version, please let ME know!

There are innumerable versions of Northern lights out now; many are no good, and some think the real McCoy is simply no longer available in ceed form from anyone. Again, many threads open on this one, with standouts here including Dr. Atomic's version.

Mr. Nice's version of White widow, "Black widow" is largely considered to be the best one. That's where I'd start if I were you.

Geographically Friesland refers to a distinct region north of Holland. The strain of the same name refers to the old Super Sativa Seed Club catalog strain #M33 Friesland indica, presumably bred there. I'm sure the strain isn't totally lost, though I don't think anyone is offering it in ceed form commercially right now. There are a couple of "frisian" or "freeze" hybrids that use this as a parent, but that's not the same thing.

M39 also refers to the old SSSC catalog number of the same name. The strain is Skunk #1 x Basic 5, which I believe is an early name for Northern lights. Again, considering that SSSC has basically been defunct for 20 years, I don't know who has the real McCoy there, but there are a few other versions of the same thing you could look for (eg Shiva Skunk).

If you really want a good blast from the past, you could try M31. . .aka "William's Wonder", newly re-available in seed form from Sickmeds, bred from original late 1980s SSSC seedstock. If you want high yield and good potency, I don't think you'll be disappointed. See the report in my signature for details.

This same outfit has a bunch of other old SSSC seedstock that its also going to try to bring back in ceed form, though you're probably going to have to wait a year or two before its all grown out, tested, and commercially available.

The term "purple haze" has actually referred to different strains over the years. Positronics and White Label each offer a version of this; can't comment on their quality, but I'd hope that Positronics Purple Haze #1 is authentic, at least.

The original "Big Bud" is available from Sensi Se.eds, though I think most growers think Mr. Nice's rework, called "Critical Mass" is better in terms of potency with similar (high) yield. Several other outfits also offer "Big bud" strains including Homegrown fantaseeds, Ministry of Cannabis, and Vision ceeds. IIWY, I'd go for the "Critical Mass".

althor said:

Yep, I agree you are a young. I would consider NONE of those strains "old school".

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That's a matter of perspective, I guess. If you want to be really hardcore about this, true "old school" weed has to be an outdoor grown landrace that comes with sticks and stones (ie stems and ceeds), right? IE, pretty much NO modern bred hybrid strain designed for indoor growing could be "old school".

Columbian gold/Santa Marta is supposedly a direct descendant of the cannabis brought to Central America by Simon Bolivar at the beginning of the 19th century 200 years ago. Some might consider that "old school", I guess. Mazari-Shariff, the best of the Afghani hash-making strains, probably goes back about 400 years. That one might be "old school" *IF* you make dry sieve hash with it.

From my personal perspective, I'd say if it was around and popular during the Reagan administration, that's "old school." Admittedly, that's arbitrary, but you have to draw the line somewhere, and I'm drawing it at 25 years ago!

So by that definition, the SSSC strains that date back to the late 1980s probably qualify. From a historical standpoint, the SSSC strains represent the first time in modern history that a bunch of drug strain ceeds were retailed together internationally from one place, as the precursor of all the modern seedbanks.

Skunk #1 in particular dates back to the late 1970s, I think, and it was really one of the first commercially successful modern hybrids, so I'd say that one is probably "old school" enough for anyone who cares to use the term.

On the Sickmeds project of resurrecting the old SSSC catalog, you can read a little about it here:

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/585422-sickmeds-williams-wonder-grow-journal-9.html#post8608562

M33 Friesland indica actually *IS* one of the strains that "might" make it back, and if so, I'd definitely be up for trying it.

Unfortunately, the Sickmeds breeder, Red, suffered a major setback recently, after being robbed at gunpoint at his home/breeding compound then, in the ensuing police action against the robbers having his (100% legal) grow operation raided and almost entirely destroyed by Spanish police. Its a hell of a story. . . Anyway, I don't know the status of his operation now, or which (if any) lines he may have lost permanently here, but based on what I know there is still at least some chance for some of these older SSSC lines to come back.

Thanks alot for all those info Jogro ... I have seen this old Holand old Super Sativa Seed Club catalog like 3month ago , like i said im young and im learning alot about weed was really fun to read this comment Jogro thank you again!

I went with Seedsman Skunk #1 and am very satisfied with it. It is sweeter and not really skunky but the buzz is there as I remember it from back in 86. Sam bred the skunk smell out but the buzz remains imo.

I grew a Nirvana Northern Lights and that is top notch smoke. I never smoked NL back then or if I did I did not know it so comparisons are out.

Classic Seeds has a NL and I am going to that up next already have the beans. He says it is original and not watered down. #1 and #2 combined if I understand him. I also got a pack of Humboldt Purple from him which is a old indica from northern cali.

I ran a Panama Red from ACE and got similar taste and buzz to a Oaxacan Red I had back in 79.

The seeds are out there to get the older strains effects and tastes, just have to sort thru them some.