You Really Want It Legal?

greenearth5 said:

well well well what do you know... i think you underestimated your figures lol ... actually i forgot if you were estimating a tax on each joint, a tax on an ounce, or just revenue from marijuana and marijuana related stuff... depending on which it is we can get a different answer.... i read an article that said that if each 1/2 gram joint was taxed $1 then they would get $1Billion a year... I think this marijuana deal will bring it way more revenue then anybody can count... people will come from around the world over to california to tour... it will be awesome.. ill post articles and links below

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As introduced, AB 390 would raise over $1.3 billion in annual revenue by taxing the retail production and sale of marijuana, according to financial estimates provided by the California Board of Equalization. An economic analysis by California NORML estimates that a legal, statewide retail market for cannabis could generate additional revenues totaling some $12 to $18 billion dollars per year

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7814
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• An excise tax of $1 per half-gram joint of marijuana would raise about $1 billion per year, as much as the current excise tax on cigarettes.

http://www.canorml.org/background/CA_legalization.html

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i mean they could be correct but i doubt it. they're a biased and ridiculous organization to begin with. i already cited my source for approx 4-6 billion a year so i'm sticking to that. ive seen numerous others, but none over 8 billion a year. of course NORML would be the organization to suggest above 10B.

roachwagon said:

I would prefer it stay illegal but loosen the laws on it.

If it were to become legal I would have a lottery system to see who gets to grow. Big Corporations are excluded from growing. Keep it in the hands of the little guy. I would allow 750 plants per operation. 250 for seedling or cloning stage, 250 in vegetative stage and 250 in flower stage. I would then break in down to how many employees handle so many plants. I would want a FDA officer on duty to make sure there is no extra growing going on. These growers in turn sell to the state and then the state sets the price. I think it would be a viable alternative to what is happening now. I know that there is different strains. Higher THC content would command a higher price and would be set acordingly and commercial growers would have an opportunity to pick the strains that they wanted. JMHO This my first post so don't rake me over the coals too much okay. PS I am a medical M user for cancer

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That's the dumbest thing ever. If you assigned a lottery for weed, it would be horrible. This would go right back to the "randomness" of whom gets it and it would probably just be sold again by the same guy, seeing as he's sitting in a corner store, playing lottery for 4 hrs.

if U.S. legalizes weed they could have corporations selling joints in cigarrettes packs like cigarrettes are, maybe that will offer more jobs to people plus weed would be legal
2 good outcomes

ya - we need those jobs now!!

i think there is a lot of hidden pot-tential for revenue - you could sell $10 joints at concerts.. have small theaters where people could smoke.. media could openly use pot in advertising.. how many of you want a Michelob Beer hat? no - because it advertising something dumb and man made - but pot is a universal symbol of something naturally good no? hats, socks, bedsheets, drapes, oil paintings, tapestries, murals, sunglasses shaped like pot.. the list is endless... so that covers decor.. but i'm thinking of entire businesses springing up - how about the online sales of things like bongs and supplies really taking off?

it's a given that we'll need farmers and trimmers and other helpers in actual production, but beyond that it could just be a miracle for the unemployed by stimulating all kinds of business on other levels besides the direct production and the promised money from taxation...

it would be so sweet if my local cigarette shop could take down the man's camera monitors and start selling tons of pot!!

pot will come down from its back market price and people will have that hefty amount to put into legitimate businesses..

i hope if cali legalizes they will release the 1500 prisoners who are in jail right now for just weed.. it causes so much suffering having it illegal.. when its brought into the light we will have children who aren't driven apart from their families for just weed.. even in my family - my grandmother disapproved for years of my pot smoking and it was not right.. she would go out and buy me a case of beer and a carton of smokes, but if she saw me smoking a joint she would cry and guilt trip me...

well.. now i'm just ranting, but i want to say again that if cali legalizes - we will see way more benefit than just billion dollars in tax money...

I just smoke pot. I enjoy pot. and I don't want to get arrested for pot.

end of story, I want legalization.

your forgeting one thing.... every man made item you mentioned could be made out of hemp, hemp seed oil, etc. but i do agree with all your saying and been trying to convince others of the same. Basically allot of people are unemployed purposly because they cultivate marijuana. They wont get a new job because its legal but they will be counted as being employed. So they didnt get a new job.. but that would open the market up so we can grow more pot here in america. Also if cali sells marijuana to anybody and not just cali citizens then it will become the NEW AMSTERDAMN OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!! Amsterdamn will remain classic and awesome but the "New Amsterdamn" will be much better

ford442 said:

ya - we need those jobs now!!

i think there is a lot of hidden pot-tential for revenue - you could sell $10 joints at concerts.. have small theaters where people could smoke.. media could openly use pot in advertising.. how many of you want a Michelob Beer hat? no - because it advertising something dumb and man made - but pot is a universal symbol of something naturally good no? hats, socks, bedsheets, drapes, oil paintings, tapestries, murals, sunglasses shaped like pot.. the list is endless... so that covers decor.. but i'm thinking of entire businesses springing up - how about the online sales of things like bongs and supplies really taking off?

it's a given that we'll need farmers and trimmers and other helpers in actual production, but beyond that it could just be a miracle for the unemployed by stimulating all kinds of business on other levels besides the direct production and the promised money from taxation...

it would be so sweet if my local cigarette shop could take down the man's camera monitors and start selling tons of pot!!

pot will come down from its back market price and people will have that hefty amount to put into legitimate businesses..

i hope if cali legalizes they will release the 1500 prisoners who are in jail right now for just weed.. it causes so much suffering having it illegal.. when its brought into the light we will have children who aren't driven apart from their families for just weed.. even in my family - my grandmother disapproved for years of my pot smoking and it was not right.. she would go out and buy me a case of beer and a carton of smokes, but if she saw me smoking a joint she would cry and guilt trip me...

well.. now i'm just ranting, but i want to say again that if cali legalizes - we will see way more benefit than just billion dollars in tax money...

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ya.. in my list i meant like hats, socks, bedsheets, drapes, oil paintings, tapestries, murals - all with cannabis motif - it could be openly displayed without fear...

we would not need to have armed guards and prison fence surrounding hemp fields either.. we could openly grow hemp to make allot of our products.. thats the direction we need to move to.... use marijuana and hemp to replace all these senthitic products that are destroying the earth

ford442 said:

ya.. in my list i meant like hats, socks, bedsheets, drapes, oil paintings, tapestries, murals - all with cannabis motif - it could be openly displayed without fear...

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why the heck is hemp illegal? is it because you could secretly grow indica/sativa in your field?

utbob said:

The end of making a couple million a year for throwing some seeds on the ground? I dunno but you got to admit there are some pretty hefty financial advantages for the shit being illegal. I would think most commercial growers would be strongly against legalization (except the ones already in prison).

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i would say the majority of stoners could care less what commercial growers think (when it comes to legalization) it eliminates a lot of crime.

Eating marijuana seeds will lower your cholestoral levels. Big pharma doesn't want people to know about that, they've got over 50% of adults in the US taking lipitor right now, at $100 bucks a bottle per month, how much money do you think they are raking in on that one drug alone?

Even the woody stems and leaves of marijuana can be put to use. Material made from hemp fiber is more longlasting than material made of cotton. How many of you get pissed when your favorite jeans finally bite it? If those jeans were made of hemp, they'd last twice as long.

Hemp can be used to make pressed board for construction.

Paper made from hemp does not yellow over time like paper made from wood.

Plastics made from hemp do not pollute the environment when they are made and they also decompose without poisoning the earth.


It's time, we need to stand up and fight the corporations that have ruined out planet through GREED. They are why marijuana continues to be illegal, it's not about the high, it's about the Benjamins.

misshestermoffitt said:

It's time, we need to stand up and fight the corporations that have ruined out planet through GREED. They are why marijuana continues to be illegal, it's not about the high, it's about the Benjamins.

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If marijuana is legalized, cigarette companies will be the first to start growing legally. And you can bet they're going to be huge grow ops. We're talking about name-brand weed in the gas station. As fast as the states are decriminalizing the stuff, it's going to be legal before obama gets assasinated.

The corporations will get the most from legalized marijuana. Without a doubt. They've got the money that buys land, engineers, farmers.



The reason people in places like holland still make money growing and selling is because the supply is still low enough to allow high prices. With commercial enterprises going after the first piece of a new industry, there's going to be a lot of new, cheap product. If yours isn't better, and better enough to make it worth paying more, you're just going to have to sell for cheap.

And that's the way supply and demand affects us. It sucks, i'd love for it to be legal. But i gotta get that money. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I don't want to sell and make money, I want to grow my own and be left alone. There is a difference. I'm not after the quick buck, I'm after the right to smoke in peace.

I could sell now, but I don't. I'll go find some for someone I know who can't find any, but it's always at cost, I don't mark up or anything lame like that.

i'd like to see like coffee shops be allowed to sell it and they can grow it too, but like no corporate giants should be allowed to be able to grow it just because you have no idea what additives are put in it. I would know what i grew with my own two hands and how i wanted it to grow like and if i wanted it cured a certain way. there should also be regulation for organic pot, because we all know pot grown with non organics are bad for the environment and promotes green house gasses.

pot would put petroleum businesses out of business. it is a high bio crop, and it creates like a shit ton more renewable crops than corn or other items can. And the other thing is, weed is really a weed it can grow anywhere. unlike corn that requires chemicals and fertilizers and herbicides,fungicides,pesticides to growall these chemicals are the devil! i mean theres a story on the news the other day about a lady having birth defects cuz she ate some fish out of the great lakes. her kid came out of her uterus looking like quasimodo .anyways, for the pot plants , im not talking about sativa or indica strains. im talking about the ruderalis kind. it is not for smoking . the ruderalis has to be harvested before it starts to flower and no thc content means the product won't breakdown as easily because of seed/minimal thc production.and the fibers are wonderful there is more than 10,000 uses for hemp products and oil derived from hemp. and yes i agree with an earlier post about the cholesterol pill from hemp seeds. the government only wants to keep it illegal so that the pharmacy companies can make the plant and turn it into a profitable drug so that the drug companies will pay the senators and house of reps and judicial systems so that they can keep a monopoly on a plant that cannot be copyrighted( because pot is just a plant it will grow fucking everywhere)
anyways
make pot legal, let the little man enjoy his own stash, and fuck all those big companies making a buck. weed is just a recreational herb that brings enjoyment to the people. Its been around for thousands of years. why wait till 1930s to prohibitize it? because petroleum companies gave politicians to give hear-se testimony that its a drug that will corrupt children. not mentioning that pot will put them out of business if they didnt squash the plant as soon as possible.
*im done with my rant.*
thanks for reading