Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

deadjon

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I have not tried it. Tell us about it.

I've found myself that you have to really stay on top of BT. I'm heading into fall and have been soaking them every three days. These look to be my cleanest outdoor crops ever.

They tend to attack you top colas. All I see are nice clean white hairs, which they love to eat.
I was doing alternating weeks of Montery BT and Trifecta, but you're spot on, need to do each weekly at this time of the year. It's a chore!
 

deadjon

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The idea is to wash the bud with a peroxide solution and then in a bucket of clean water as you harvest. Outdoor bud picks up dust and all sorts of stuff. Not spraying it on live plants.
Yea, it's a "hotly" debated topic, but for outdoor grows where you've almost got to use some sprays, I'm for it. 3 buckets, peroxide in one, water / lemon juice / baking soda the next ,water only the third. Dip and "swoosh" and then hang to dry...

(I've never done it, I'm scared... but I'm gonna with my last crop of this season (It's been soaked...)
 

budsfordayz

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The idea is to wash the bud with a peroxide solution and then in a bucket of clean water as you harvest. Outdoor bud picks up dust and all sorts of stuff. Not spraying it on live plants.
Just a question what does dipping buds in water actually clean? I can see it cleaning the outside of the bud... but I can’t imagine my 2l pop bottle colas being “cleaned” of all the crap in them by just dipping them in water or anything else for that matter. Unless I have a bad grow and get all larf that is lol

Wouldn’t the majority of the dirt/bugs/dust be in the inside as the plant continues to stack and swell?
 

jbcCT

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You watch to wash off any dust, dirt and tiny flies tend to get glued on. I put a quarter bottle (small) of peroxide into a five gallon bucket so it's well diluted. I dip the branch in the solution shake it around a bit, you'll see the loose debris float to the top. Then dunk it a few times in a clean bucket of water.

Does not impact the quality in any way. The stuff is so sticky with resin it's almost waterproof.

I gave the example of spraying sneaker waterproofer on your hand (when you were a kid, lol) and then sticking your hand in water and your hand comes out almost dry.

Lot of guys doing outdoor wash the bud. We're not talking about scrubbing the stuff, just getting off loose debris, sterilize it a little bit.

I find it really dries nicely after a little bath.
 

jbcCT

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Just a question what does dipping buds in water actually clean? I can see it cleaning the outside of the bud... but I can’t imagine my 2l pop bottle colas being “cleaned” of all the crap in them by just dipping them in water or anything else for that matter. Unless I have a bad grow and get all larf that is lol

Wouldn’t the majority of the dirt/bugs/dust be in the inside as the plant continues to stack and swell?
I hear what your saying about the internals. I'm anal about how clean my bud is. Prior to washing my branches I'm doing a wet trim and thorough inspection. Using my hand trimmer blade to pull apart the bug a bit. Looking for that black grit or any other signs of damage. I don't want anything infected hitting the rack.

But the bud wash does catch the dust and small flies.
 

jbcCT

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Yea, it's a "hotly" debated topic, but for outdoor grows where you've almost got to use some sprays, I'm for it. 3 buckets, peroxide in one, water / lemon juice / baking soda the next ,water only the third. Dip and "swoosh" and then hang to dry...

(I've never done it, I'm scared... but I'm gonna with my last crop of this season (It's been soaked...)
Agree. You can't grow outside without treating the plants. Back when weed came almost exclusively from Mexico they were nuking it with poison.

A few posts back I posted a recent podcast of Joe Rogan where he had a game warden on that busts illegal cartel grows on U.S soil. They were smuggling in toxic Mexican pesticides to treat with. Worth a listen.
 

potroastV2

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I've never dunked my harvested plants. I just spray the entire plant really well with a hose. I use a fine spray, and completely soak the buds. Then I let the plant dry in the sun, and harvest.

I always do that for my indoor plants, too, take them outside, and give them a good shower before harvest.


:mrgreen:
 

jbcCT

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God damnit guys. I'm doing my nightly LED inspection and there is powdery mildew on one of my purples. I had it hit a few purps early in veg but fungicide knocked it out. So lower branches only at this point on the one plant. Isolated the patient. Hit impacted areas with fungicide. Will remove those sections tomorrow. Supposed to be over 85 tomorrow so that will help.

It's like a God dammed running gun battle sometimes. I've never seen this on any Bodhi strains by the way. Glad I saw it though. Can't let that shit get a toe hold so to speak.

Take it in stride I suppose.
 

jbcCT

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Just bought a quart of it to use "if" the worms invade, which I suspect they will. I have read opinions ranging from stopping its use two weeks before harvest, to using it right up to harvest. Some people rinse their crop in a hydrogen peroxide solution followed by a water dip to clean it, some don't. Right now, my issue is powdery mildew, not so much worms. Good luck!

Remember your post. Found a few spots on one of my plants tonight. What fungicide are you using? Has it been effective? What are your daytime high temps?

I'm using a copper soap fungicide. Used it alot on cucumber plants who are very prone to powdery. It's strong. It starts eating it away on contact.

Keep fighting the good fight.
 

jbcCT

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Link that for us please.


He uses granules for large crops, too much to spray. So you sprinkle that sh*t and head to the ground to eat it Jorge?

If I was dealing with large crops I would use a hose sprayer attachment that you pour the concentrate in. Jorge is the man though so granules must be effective on larger grows.
 

SuperNutz

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He uses granules for large crops, too much to spray. So you sprinkle that sh*t and head to the ground to eat it Jorge?

If I was dealing with large crops I would use a hose sprayer attachment that you pour the concentrate in. Jorge is the man though so granules must be effective on larger grows.
LOL, I can't watch that space case. Or the Kaligrownbudz dude. Guess I got too much east coast left in me that Jorge makes me sleepy and the other guy with the sound affects makes me want to slap him lmao.
 

stray77

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IMG_2770.JPG If it weren't for closeup's I'd never spot the eggs. This is my first outdoor. I haven't done any pest prevention to this point besides hosing it off, plucking damaged leaves and keeping a close eye on it. I have at my disposal, pyrethrin 0.2%/ Piperonyl butoxide 1.0% powder, diatomaceous earth 100% powder(silicon dioxide 80%), soap, water, baking soda, ph down (phosphoric acid) and Green Earth concentrated horticultural oil (which I'm trying to confirm is just neem but I'm still looking, my label is illegible). Suggestions welcome. This image is from today.
 

SuperNutz

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View attachment 4392652 If it weren't for closeup's I'd never spot the eggs. This is my first outdoor. I haven't done any pest prevention to this point besides hosing it off, plucking damaged leaves and keeping a close eye on it. I have at my disposal, pyrethrin 0.2%/ Piperonyl butoxide 1.0% powder, diatomaceous earth 100% powder(silicon dioxide 80%), soap, water, baking soda, ph down (phosphoric acid) and Green Earth concentrated horticultural oil (which I'm trying to confirm is just neem but I'm still looking, my label is illegible). Suggestions welcome. This image is from today.
Something about the skull and crossbones with the words CANCER POISON.... uhhh thinking it's not neem.
 

stray77

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Ya you're right, I couldn't read my label and didn't actually read the one on the photo. Says 99% mineral oil, which is a petroleum distillate of some sort (so much for Green Earth). Looking closer at my labels, the pyrethrin is Doktor Doom, and the dude in the video above said it'll work but I'll definitely order some neem as well as BT, any recommended brands?
 

SuperNutz

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Ya you're right, I couldn't read my label and didn't actually read the one on the photo. Says 99% mineral oil, which is a petroleum distillate of some sort (so much for Green Earth). Looking closer at my labels, the pyrethrin is Doktor Doom, and the dude in the video above said it'll work but I'll definitely order some neem as well as BT, any recommended brands?
As long as the Neem Oil is 100% cold pressed it should be good because it will have the Azadirachta that the "Extracts" don't have. I use Dyna brand neem oil. BT I use Monterey as was recommended to me by a few people here. Watching these moths right now on night vision lol... idk if it's too late but I may add bat housing to my wooded area to attract more of them for the night moths. Yellow jackets are killing it on caterpillar patrol but these moths are everywhere at night.
 

SuperNutz

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Ya you're right, I couldn't read my label and didn't actually read the one on the photo. Says 99% mineral oil, which is a petroleum distillate of some sort (so much for Green Earth). Looking closer at my labels, the pyrethrin is Doktor Doom, and the dude in the video above said it'll work but I'll definitely order some neem as well as BT, any recommended brands?
Too, my bug zapper kills a couple hundred moths a night, if you got one hang it 100 feet away and keep that sucker on. Or 10 feet away with a garbage can lid or something blocking the light from the plants... I forget not everyone is in the boonies like me lol.
 
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