Yanis Varoufakis is the former finance monster of Greece and a strong fiscal Progressive

choomer

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Doesn't a universal basic dividend ensure the continued failure of anit-trust to reign in monopolies as you'd be depending on such businesses to supply that dividend?

Let's take this quote from the article as an example of the dichotomy of the idea:
"Every time you have an IPO or you raise new capital, you take, say, 10 percent of the shares and you deposit them in a public equity fund."​

"The idea of universal basic dividend is we’re saying “Forget taxes”; this has nothing to do with taxation."​
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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choomer said:
Doesn't a universal basic dividend ensure the continued failure of anit-trust to reign in monopolies as you'd be depending on such businesses to supply that dividend?

Let's take this quote from the article as an example of the dichotomy of the idea:
"Every time you have an IPO or you raise new capital, you take, say, 10 percent of the shares and you deposit them in a public equity fund."​

"The idea of universal basic dividend is we’re saying “Forget taxes”; this has nothing to do with taxation."​
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I have to agree that this doesn't mean a lot of sense. Why not just raise taxes on Corporations and then use the funds to benefit citizens?
 
choomer

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ttystikk said:
I have to agree that this doesn't mean a lot of sense. Why not just raise taxes on Corporations and then use the funds to benefit citizens?
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Corp. yes, but regular un-conglomerated businesses no.
Use the tax as an anti-trust tool.
The more consolidation and control you want over the market, the more tax you pay until it becomes unprofitable.
Let's say for each new business a corp consumes, compound the tax rate of both and make both "divisions" pay the new higher rate.

But this idea depends on a gov't that is fiscally responsible and w/ $1T+/yr. deficits I think we know that the gov't is the last entity you'd want as an arbiter of this or we wouldn't be talking about the issue.
 
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UncleBuck

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choomer said:
Corp. yes, but regular un-conglomerated businesses no.
Use the tax as an anti-trust tool.
The more consolidation and control you want over the market, the more tax you pay until it becomes unprofitable.
Let's say for each new business a corp consumes, compound the tax rate of both and make both "divisions" pay the new higher rate.

But this idea depends on a gov't that is fiscally responsible and w/ $1T+/yr. deficits I think we know that the gov't is the last entity you'd want as an arbiter of this or we wouldn't be talking about the issue.
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you know what is a good idea?

condemning hitler's nazi germany
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SneekyNinja said:
It's not such a bad idea he suggested though...I have to give him that.
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anything he suggests is a bad idea because it comes from a nazi

i'd come up with a better idea even if it was basically the same one just so that the idea did not come from a nazi, which is what he is. a nazi
 
SneekyNinja

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UncleBuck said:
anything he suggests is a bad idea because it comes from a nazi

i'd come up with a better idea even if it was basically the same one just so that the idea did not come from a nazi, which is what he is. a nazi
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Is he a Red Armband wearing Nazi or just a Buck-Nazi?

Context is crucial.
 
choomer

choomer

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UncleBuck said:
anything he suggests is a bad idea because it comes from a nazi

i'd come up with a better idea even if it was basically the same one just so that the idea did not come from a nazi, which is what he is. a nazi
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Buckold, it seems that is all you can say.
This is why Lou was a better troll than you.

You couldn't think of a better idea or you would, you know, like a thinking person.
But thinking is just not a favorite flavor for you is it Cheeto. ;)
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Fogdog said:
Lou had some qualities that must have been attractive to an androgynous boy/girl. I never saw him say anything to indicate he would be attracted to that. Quite the opposite.
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lou was large and hairy. i think choomer feels slighted that he never seemed to hit puberty, even in his mid 20s
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-some-ideas-about-how-to-save-the-future.html

Yanis Varoufakis is the former finance monster of Greece and a strong fiscal Progressive.

He has a lot to say about the ills brought about by neoliberalism and fiscal 'conservatism'.

I don't think it comes as any surprise that I'm very much a fiscal Progressive, myself.
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Yo mountain man, long time.

Have you seen the Justice Democrats financials?

Any ideas/speculations/opinion where the $1.7mill went?
 
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