ww,620-630nm,640-660nm,450-470nm ?

tekdc911

Well-Known Member
im working up a materials list for some DIY side lights
and was wondering if
20 X WW,10 X 620-630nm,10 X 640-660nm,5 X 450-470nm
3 watt leds
on a 90 w driver would be a good idea for flowering sidelights/spot lights
 
i'm counting 45 leds.... might want to drop it to 30 or less if 90watt if watt you're aiming for or get a 150w driver :)
i would use less white and throw in more red and blue and maybe add one UV or Far red depends on what you are after
i was actually reading something recently about the advantages of some green light (yeah i know)
just make sure your driver can handle the wattage
enjoy experimenting
 
it will probably be on 2 drivers
i was just figuring around 2 w a led to get an idea
i have a panel that has uv and ir
so i figured id leave it out of these seeing how i have issues with the ir burning at close distances
might be the uv there next to each other and if i run my panel at around 6" on a scrog i get one burn spot directly under these 2 emmiters
 
probably should of explained my setup im running a 135w bloom directly above and using a 7 band hung side ways
i turn the plant daily if not every couple of days on the other corners i use cfl's 68w 2700k im wanting to build them so i can run them flat in a scrog or sideways for sidelight to make my box more adaptable to different grow styles with just a yo yo adjustment
the cfl's get in the way seeing how they are only effective close any led light that does leak past the foot print is intercepted by the large coils

how many watts of led is needed to cover a 3' X 4' space ?
 
Do not think in terms of watts, instead, think umols/m^2


WW should provide plenty of 630, so 640-650, and maybe 10% 660 and 5% ~760-780

The more 600-650 you have the less 660 you need
 
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[TD]30 Watt High Power Planar Chip On Board (COB) Cool White LEDs. 2700 lumen with wide 100 degree viewing angle.[/TD]
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[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]1000mA[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, width: 25%, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: right"]Forward Voltage[/TD]
[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]30V[/TD]
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[TD="class: odd sorting_1, width: 25%, bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right"]LED Package[/TD]
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[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]2700 Lumen[/TD]
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[TD="class: odd, width: 25%, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: right"]Maximum Forward Voltage[/TD]
[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]34V[/TD]
[TD="class: odd, width: 25%, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: right"]Millicandela[/TD]
[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]1203000mcd[/TD]
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[TD="class: odd sorting_1, width: 25%, bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right"]Operating Temperature[/TD]
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[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]1500mA[/TD]
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[TD="class: odd, width: 25%, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: right"]Power Dissapation[/TD]
[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]10W[/TD]
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[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]10µA[/TD]
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[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]5V[/TD]
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[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]-30~+100 °C[/TD]
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[TD="class: odd, width: 25%, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: right"]Total Power Consumption[/TD]
[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]30 Watts[/TD]
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[TD="class: even, width: 25%"]100 degree[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #EEEEEE, colspan: 4"]Dimensions: 5.22cm(2.06") x 5.22cm(2.06") x 0.188cm(0.07")[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 5"]Power Dissipation[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]10[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"]W[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Peak Forward Current (1/10 Duty Cycle,0.1ms Pulse Width)[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]IF(peak)[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Continuous Forward Current[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]1000[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Reverse Voltage[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]VR[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]5[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"]V[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Operating temperature range[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Topr[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"]-20°C ~ +80°C[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Storage Temperature Range[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Tstg[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"]-30°C ~ +100°C[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]LED junction temperature[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Tj[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]105[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"]°C[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Thermal resistance[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]R[SUB]θJC[/SUB][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]12[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"]°C/W[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Suggested cooling area (sides exposed to open air)[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]800-1200[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"]cm[SUP]2[/SUP][/TD]
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[TD="class: divider, colspan: 8"][/TD]
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[TH="bgcolor: #EEEEEE, colspan: 8"]Flux Characteristics (Tj = 25°C)[/TH]
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[TH="bgcolor: #EEEEEE, colspan: 2"]Lumen[/TH]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Cool White[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]2700[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]7000-8000K[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Warm White[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]2700[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2"]2800-3200K[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"][/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]Forward Voltage[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]VF[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]IF=1000mA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]30[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]32[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]34[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"]V[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]Reverse Current[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]IR[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]IF =1000mA[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 4, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="colspan: -1"]uA[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]Lead Soldering Temp[/TD]
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If I bolted these to a aluminum pizza pan and used thermal grease
then used a cake pan on the back for a cover i could vent it and use this to hold my fans
and have a place to put my drivers
if i ran
5 of these would be 150 watts
that should good enough ?
 

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    [TD="colspan: 3"]LED junction temperature[/TD]
    [TD="colspan: 2"]Tj[/TD]
    [TD="colspan: 2"]105[/TD]
    [TD]°C[/TD]
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mean it runs at 105 celcius ?
221 F ? thats boiling water hot
 
105c is the highest rated junction temperature the LED can tolerate. That's pretty good since many are lower. At that temperature the life and luminescence of the LED will be reduced. Cooling is essential. A pizza pan doesn't have enough surface area to cool many LEDs. I don't remember the exact number but I think its something like 20 sq/in of radiating area per watt for adequate cooling. Finned aluminum heat sinks do the trick. Look at the Astir panel thread. Much is explained there.
 
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