WTF collectives !

mccumcumber

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Growers are making tons of money dude. After selling about 1 pound of their product to the dispensaries they break even and still have a shit ton more to sell/smoke. I don't know where you're getting your profit model from. Also, dispensaries have to pay ridiculous fees and rents on their places. That's why a lot of them go out of business so quickly. Your "average price" is the high end/"top shelf" price of clubs in my area. Of course you're going to get higher prices in areas with less growers, it's harder to find buds. $45 an 8th is really too expensive for great bud even, but I don't mind doing it every once in a while to treat myself.

An experienced grower will get way more yeild out of his/her plants, but the quality will not be too much different. After my second time growing I was able to notice what was going on with my plants at almost every stage, and I was able to fix em up. I still only get around 0.8 grams per watt cause I'm not a beast, but I have good buds that I enjoy smoking. Weed is just such a fucking easy plant to grow. Sure there are ridiculous methods to make your bud glow in the dark and shit, but even without adding very many nutes, and changing the soil once or twice you could make great, tasty buds. In about a year or two after the prop passes, everyone will have good weed. Which is fucking awesome.

Back to the high priced collectives dilemma... I used to make the same mistakes as you man, only looking at top shelf. But you ought to just look at and smell all the bud before you buy it. If the waiter/waitress isn't a dick, ask them which one tastes the best etc. Places that put on price caps are usually your best bet ($50 for a 5 grams no matter what it is or what combination of buds you get). However, I don't know shit about clubs in San Diego. Over in Berkeley/Oakland though you can get an 8th of chronic for $25... it's pretty nice. And in SF you can find crazy deals, like taco Sundays, where after every 8th purchased you get two tacos (potentially being able to get 16 tacos)! If I were you I would just search around for more dispensaries, a new one pops up every week. If you get to know some of the employees or owners of clubs you will get discounts. Or, you have your card, just grow your own. Best decision I ever made. The bud might not be as good your first time, but hey, with time you'll become a beast!
 

vradd

Active Member
medical growers are TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOU under the guise of "providing medicine" when in reality they are just using the law to shield their MASSIVE DOPE MONOPOLY.

fuck medical growers, they are the most greedy heartless capitalistic goons EVER. stay away!!!!
x100000000000 dispensarys are the biggest legal crooks around. compassion and black market do NOT go together.

medical users will lie to you all day. they smoke dope under the guise of "being sick". don't trust them with anything. :fire:
:roll:
well guess you fall into that category as well.

wait a second(as I drag up this old thread cause the Medical Section is so dead)
Medical growers are actually making Less profit, higher total sales balance this out a little, there is always Loss somewhere.
Medi Growers are Getting 2.5-3.5K per Lb. Or up to 1000 per Lb. That is like 250 per Oz.
So No, Medi Growers are not getting richer. Instead of a middle man making the profit, it is the Dealer you are buying from (Dispensary/Collective).
It is unfortunate. However there are bills to be paid, employees to feed and house when running a business.
Having quite a bit of experience in management I could see shops selling 10 or more oz per day @ 350+ (or what was your guys cap you wanted 45X8 $360.00) well that is about 4K per day, there is profit. Being made, but it is not the grower making these profits.

I doubt the price of this commodity will drop as far as to $38 USD per Ounce.
I believe that when we finally get Legal, we will see a drop in price and a flood of the market.
A flood of Everyone trying to grow creates a flood of substandard product. We will still be looking for quality when we are flooded with more poor quality.
Link to current market info

I will still be looking to the more experienced growers, same ones I have been puffing off of for 20+ years.
But now these old growers supply the market Legally @ about 250.
Seems most Medical shops are selling this same product at 400+ (Recon, SensiStar, MKUltra, Chocolope, and others)

But heck, what do I know.
I do have a habit of driving poor profiting businesses into and over 1m in sales per month. Yr 2007 Sales=74 m Yr 2008 Sales=150M
Have been studying this market since 1985.

"Has anyone seen the bridge?.... Where's that confounded bridge?"
most dispensarys are run with the BARE minimum. ive seen places here rent out big offices all to have a lil 8x10 'sell area'. with a few posters and lights. its not like they are running these high speed shops. hell most have shitty employees who dont even know basic math or customer service.

down in my area their is one shop that hase $50 top and $30 low, for 8ths. and 8 times out of 10 the low stuff is JUST as good. and like the other guy said look for smaller nugs!! and have them break off the long stems. so that the stem weight isnt being added.
 

bajafox

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At least he's not asking for free meds...

I've seen as low as 35/8th in San Diego but I'd gladly pay double for something I know will do the trick
 

Dan Kone

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x100000000000 dispensarys are the biggest legal crooks around. compassion and black market do NOT go together.
It's tricky. The overhead for running a dispensary is extremely high. The growers make a much higher % profit than the dispensaries do. However because of the sales volume of dispensaries, they generally end up making much more money than the growers.

Basically both sides are making a ton of cash. And you are correct, it's because it's semi-black market. Fully legal low risk businesses don't charge this kind of markup. When it comes down to it, it's the government and our laws keeping the price so high.
 

vradd

Active Member
i want business to thrive but you got to be marketable enough to pull away from the black market prices. and if you are going to go off that price table at LEAST make up for it by showing the compassion to those prices and giving very heavy hands, 1-2 over on an 8th min. then id be fine paying those prices.
 

Dan Kone

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i want business to thrive but you got to be marketable enough to pull away from the black market prices. and if you are going to go off that price table at LEAST make up for it by showing the compassion to those prices and giving very heavy hands, 1-2 over on an 8th min. then id be fine paying those prices.
Just saw someone sell a # of GDP to a dispensary for $1600. Guy put it up on the board for $60 per 8th. That's pretty harsh. Vendor and customers both getting jacked.
 

thousanaire

Active Member
Just saw someone sell a # of GDP to a dispensary for $1600. Guy put it up on the board for $60 per 8th. That's pretty harsh. Vendor and customers both getting jacked.
damn dude old thread but thats fucked up man thats almost 8000 dollars a pound at 60 per eighth thats pretty big markup and the fucked up thing is that the grower probally needed the 1600 alot more than the club owners need that 8000 dollars per pound, so what u usally selling your lbs for to the clubs out here in san jose for dan
 

dirtsurfr

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All this and the people down in S. Calif. can't figure out why the dispensary's are getting closed?
They should just cut out the middle man and get their own patients say 5 per grower max.
 

calicat

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Why is it collectives in so cal are priced like street vendors ? I thought there were compassionate non profit organisations dedicated to providing medicine but today I saw a collective in sd that was pricing eights at 65$ top shelf ...
some of us need the medicine , and at a more affordabe price .
when a doc can give you a perscription of viccoden (25+ pills ) for 5 $ with insurance , shouldnt a movement trying to gain weight offer a better medication at a more reasonable price ? I wont name the collective but god ...
Actually most cooperatives are more expensive than black market.
 
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