would you kill your own animals for food?

I don't mean take a gun or trap and kill something you've never met before.

I mean if you kept your own chickens, goats, pigs etc, would you be able to kill them for your food?

Its one of those things that I've never tried, I should, but I get too attached to animals, I love meat like life, but I don't think I'd be able to kill off animals I've raised. Fish, yes, stupid fuckers, but not fluffy cuddly animals!

Could you go and wring your chickens neck? (I could be wrong but I imagine folk from the US would be more willing, in the UK we are rarely ever connected to our food source, heck, we don't even hunt other than the priveliged who can get a shotgun license and somewhere to shoot)

Sure could and have.

I raise chickens, harvest their eggs, and in fact eat them, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Actually, I don't even buy meat at a store, I have three freezers full of venison, rabbit, squirrel, bear, elk, and even a bit of snake. Game meat is by far better for you, and better tasting as well.

tip top toker said:

I don't mean take a gun or trap and kill something you've never met before.

I mean if you kept your own chickens, goats, pigs etc, would you be able to kill them for your food?

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Yep, I've done all the above my whole life. If you have ever raised chickens or pigs, you would understand. They are not that cute outside of children's story books. They are annoying and messy and it is good to toss a batch in the freezer from time to time. Goats are kinda cool, I've never raised them, but they taste real good also. Those brown-eyed steers are the cutest, and have the most personality, but when your bank account depends on making wise decisions like feeding your family or feeding what will be a 1800 pound pet, the decision becomes easier.

Kids raised on a farm never give this a second thought.

I mean if it's the right kind of animal...
Fluffy... fluffy come here fluffy.... I have a very hot spa treatment here in the kitchen for you...

and any way... I only am owned by my dog, and she wouldn't want to kill me, I bring her, her next meal....

AimAim said:

Yep, I've done all the above my whole life. If you have ever raised chickens or pigs, you would understand. They are not that cute outside of children's story books. They are annoying and messy and it is good to toss a batch in the freezer from time to time. Goats are kinda cool, I've never raised them, but they taste real good also. Those brown-eyed steers are the cutest, and have the most personality, but when your bank account depends on making wise decisions like feeding your family or feeding what will be a 1800 pound pet, the decision becomes easier.

Kids raised on a farm never give this a second thought.

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I was raised on a farm. I find all the animals too adorable but I just wanna eat them! Its rather annoying at times.

As I said in the op, in the UK there is a HUGE disconnect between dinner and where it comes from. There is no hunting unless you are priveliged, as opposed to the USA, where you hunt because you need food. As such we are brought up to love animals we meet or keep, not see them as food, because we have not had the opportunity to be desensitized, I think thats a bad thing. I generally hate gordon Ramsey, but do admire him for making his kids understand where turkey comes from.

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I don't mean take a gun or trap and kill something you've never met before.

I mean if you kept your own chickens, goats, pigs etc, would you be able to kill them for your food?

Its one of those things that I've never tried, I should, but I get too attached to animals, I love meat like life, but I don't think I'd be able to kill off animals I've raised. Fish, yes, stupid fuckers, but not fluffy cuddly animals!

Could you go and wring your chickens neck? (I could be wrong but I imagine folk from the US would be more willing, in the UK we are rarely ever connected to our food source, heck, we don't even hunt other than the priveliged who can get a shotgun license and somewhere to shoot)

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im with ya. I couldn't kill my own animals either.my dog and cats wouldn't be very filling anyway. obviously I have no problems growing food. but im from the mountains of west Virginia originally. we hunted growing up. deer is good. squirrels not so good. no enough meat on them to waste a bullet.

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I was raised on a farm. I find all the animals too adorable but I just wanna eat them! Its rather annoying at times.

As I said in the op, in the UK there is a HUGE disconnect between dinner and where it comes from. There is no hunting unless you are priveliged, as opposed to the USA, where you hunt because you need food. As such we are brought up to love animals we meet or keep, not see them as food, because we have not had the opportunity to be desensitized, I think thats a bad thing. I generally hate gordon Ramsey, but do admire him for making his kids understand where turkey comes from.

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not many people in the us of a hunt because they need to eat tip.. maybe, and i mean maybe, if you live some where remote like alaska or the like, but for the most part, hunting in the us is done mainly for sport, food being the secondary reason..

i say this all the time to 420 god, but i'd have a really hard time killing something i raised to eat as food, no doubt about it, and man, i love me some meat.. i wish there wasn't the huge disconnect between the animal and my plate, but it is the way it is..

What happens if shit ever hits the fan and theres no more food markets? Would you be able to watch your daughter starve while the dog or chicken thrives on scraps? I doubt it, youd kill it and feed yourself and your family. Once you kill an animal for food its not as hard to do it again. If theyre the only thing to eat, youll get over your fears and inhibitions about killing or youll die. Personally i think its a part of life and im glad i know how to do it, just incase one day i have to do it to survive.

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I was raised on a farm. I find all the animals too adorable but I just wanna eat them! Its rather annoying at times.

As I said in the op, in the UK there is a HUGE disconnect between dinner and where it comes from. There is no hunting unless you are priveliged, as opposed to the USA, where you hunt because you need food. As such we are brought up to love animals we meet or keep, not see them as food, because we have not had the opportunity to be desensitized, I think thats a bad thing. I generally hate gordon Ramsey, but do admire him for making his kids understand where turkey comes from.

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You ever try lobster sashimi taken from a live lobster? They cut off the tail and send the sashimi out with the body still alive for dramatic effect. I think it tastes better that way

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in the UK there is a HUGE disconnect between dinner and where it comes from. There is no hunting unless you are priveliged, as opposed to the USA, where you hunt because you need food.

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I cannot imagine there being a larger farm to table disconnect in UK vs US, but I guess it is possible.

In the US not many people hunt because they need food. It's an enjoyable sport to many, and managed to control healthy wildlife populations. And getting some healthy fish or game to enjoy eating is a fairly minor part of it. Most guys could feed their family for a couple months on what they spend on a weekend hunting trip.

racerboy71 said:

not many people in the us of a hunt because they need to eat tip.. maybe, and i mean maybe, if you live some where remote like alaska or the like, but for the most part, hunting in the us is done mainly for sport, food being the secondary reason..

i say this all the time to 420 god, but i'd have a really hard time killing something i raised to eat as food, no doubt about it, and man, i love me some meat.. i wish there wasn't the huge disconnect between the animal and my plate, but it is the way it is..

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I know you don't all hunt because you need food, and by hunt, I do not specifically mean elk etc, I mean everything from ducks to squirells, in the UK yo have to work hard to get a license to be able to do any of that. I'll happily shoot a squirell, cheeky fuckers. Point being unless you are rich and have the land and such, in the UK you can't hunt regardless of reason or animal. In the states, you can easily own a gun, and if you see a squirell, you can shoot it. Best we can generally get is air rifles. Few people in the UK have any idea of what it means to provide your own dinner short of bloody vegetables.

Alienwidow said:

What happens if shit ever hits the fan and theres no more food markets? Would you be able to watch your daughter starve while the dog or chicken thrives on scraps? I doubt it, youd kill it and feed yourself and your family. Once you kill an animal for food its not as hard to do it again. If theyre the only thing to eat, youll get over your fears and inhibitions about killing or youll die. Personally i think its a part of life and im glad i know how to do it, just incase one day i have to do it to survive.

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That's a different issue. If I couldn't feed my children, then heck, human flesh would not be beyond reasoning. This is more a question of you could buy it in the shop, or go cheaper and just raise it yourself. When Armageddon comes, everything becomes an option

I bought some egg laying chickens once as two day old chicks. My friend named one after me, well call him alien for the sake of conversation. Well alien grew up to be a boy chicken and not a girl chicken so alien turned into thanksgiving dinner because i didnt want beaks in my scrambled eggs. Another case of necessity but still not so hard to kill my baby.

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I cannot imagine there being a larger farm to table disconnect in UK vs US, but I guess it is possible.

In the US not many people hunt because they need food. It's an enjoyable sport to many, and managed to control healthy wildlife populations. And getting some healthy fish or game to enjoy eating is a fairly minor part of it. Most guys could feed their family for a couple months on what they spend on a weekend hunting trip.

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In the UK we can't even catchna fish for dinner(legally) without first a rod license and then a license to fish that specific spot. I kid you not,in the UK, the ida of land or river to table, it is almost nonexistent. The majority of people can't even afford to eat decent fish, just freezer shit.

I am in no position to say that you are in a better position to hunt, but I know that if you guys want to hunt took or squirell, yo just have to get your gun out. We don't even have the option of getting the gun out unless (typically) yo are from a family with land and money. Simply shorting squirell in your back yard is completely out of the option for the magority of UK folk.

I hate guns, because regardless what people say, they create problems (eg in the UK a stick under your pillow is all that's needed to fend off a home invasion) but at the same time, it most definitely denies us what should be a basic right, putting food on our table when we can't afford to buy it. You will get questioned and possibly arrested by the police just for having an air rifle in the UK. It happened to me before.

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In the UK we can't even catchna fish for dinner(legally) without first a rod license and then a license to fish that specific spot. I kid you not,in the UK, the ida of land or river to table, it is almost nonexistent. The majority of people can't even afford to eat decent fish, just freezer shit.

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Well it's not free to hunt in the US. You are going to need a proper basic hunting and fishing license to begin with (state issued). Then possibly special stamps or permits like Federal Migratory Bird stamps, Trout stamps, day use stamps in certain areas, you certainly "pay to play" but it's not outrageous in general.

We do however have a lot of land you can hunt and fish on like you owned it, because as a citizen you actually do. The US Forest Service manages about 190 Million acres of public land. The Bureau of Land Mgt almost 90 million. The individual states many more millions. So we are blessed in that regard.

It sounds like the situation in UK is unfortunate, as in some other European countries. The concept, from centureys ago, was that the King owned all the game animals, they were his to use, and allow his cronies to hunt, and I think that just carried through to today.

No prob at all about breeding / owning animals for food .
It's the way it has been for how many years ?
I don't believe in killing animals for a trophy , that's just me . It would be ok if you ate the rest of the animal though , if that makes sense !

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No prob at all about breeding / owning animals for food .
It's the way it has been for how many years ?
I don't believe in killing animals for a trophy , that's just me . It would be ok if you ate the rest of the animal though , if that makes sense !

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With this guy, I don't hunt for sport, the thought of it makes me sick, and I only kill the animals that I plan on eating. That being said, I do keep antlers and what not, not so much as a bragging rights trophy, but to honor the memory of an animal that died to feed me.

Minus fucking porcupines, I shoot those bastards on sight. They are over-populated here and they cause nothing but trouble.

Got sick of all the hormones and mystery chemicals used to raise cheap beef. Been raising beef for own consumption for a few seasons now. At first I thought it was going to be hard, but ours were raised humanely and were not killed using a cattle prod and skinned alive as in most beef factory type settings. We knew exactly what they were fed. I love animals, was vegan for a year (not b/c I couldn't eat anything with a face but b/c I wanted to try it out to see if it was a more healthful way to live). but the attachment waned as every day I'd have to clean the grain bin b/c the steers would shit in it every time I fed them… Not the smartest animals on the planet…

Anyway, I don't judge meat eaters, vegan, etc. Whatever works for your body. I've got my thoughts on just exactly what a complete protein is but that's a whole 'bother thread. I DO however think that people should make use of whatever available food is in season and in their region… Less massive farming and "manufacturing" of meat would be better. Also consider eating other protein sources rather than the big 3 (beef, chicken, pork) Plant sources and alternative meats… (some upper scale vegan resaurants around here are now fancying serving grubs, and other insects like mealworms and locust type bugs in designer dishes. LOL. I don't know that I could go THAT route. But yes being connected to my food source is important to me.

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I was raised on a farm. I find all the animals too adorable but I just wanna eat them! Its rather annoying at times.

As I said in the op, in the UK there is a HUGE disconnect between dinner and where it comes from. There is no hunting unless you are priveliged, as opposed to the USA, where you hunt because you need food. As such we are brought up to love animals we meet or keep, not see them as food, because we have not had the opportunity to be desensitized, I think thats a bad thing. I generally hate gordon Ramsey, but do admire him for making his kids understand where turkey comes from.

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wait what? LOL you know usa has grocery stores right

ive gone partridge hunting, really like partridge over turkey, dad and i also used to go fishing, but generally did catch and release
nonno and i used to go smelt fishing, which we ate, we also had a big garden
before my time, my nonno would have rabbits and yeah......well lets just say my mom and her sisters werent to happy with that decision so they stuck to salad and pasta for the next few weeks lol