Would you be growing weed if it weren't legal

I'm a sex addict too.

Off topic but I totally read Hucklebetty's post with a Russian/Bulgarian accent

vostok said:

FAITH RESTORED ...thanks Silvio

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You can add me to that, as although having up to 3g and/or 1 female plant is officially "the lowest priority for prosecution", meaning they won't bother you, it is still 100% illegal here unless you are able to get a prescription from your doc and travel to Holland to get it. Even then, bringing your medication back over the border is still technically illegal, it's a VERY grey area, so you still have that absurdity.

So nothing will stop me growing, for personal use, as the savings are phenomenal. I get 3oz dry that's 85g. Go around the coffee shops and that will cost me a minimum of €850. Get that in one big bag from one of my delivery people, that's half a grand. Say what you like about my setup, but if I pull 3oz out of a setup costing maybe €100 or so including electricity then, frankly, it's a no-brainer.

If they change laws, etc, here so I can get WORKING MMJ (not just CBD, THC is needed too) officially via the doc and pharmacy and it is mostly paid by the health insurance, then I'd still grow because I know they will decide that you are only allowed "x" amount of whatever form the MMJ takes at a time, meaning that it may run out early.

And if they allow rec here, damn right I'm growing because, again, the money saved is obvious.

Oh, @Silvio Dante. Some form of MMJ is coming to the UK sooner than you think, and not just an expansion of Sativex. I made a thread in the medical news section about it, I expect it to be sorted out before the end of the year. Evil Tories, eh, the MMJ alone is enough for me but I expect things to change here soon too regarding MMJ. And since we're talking about prescriptions, you know how much it will cost for whatever MMJ product you get, as in nothing if you live in Scotland or Wales and £8.80 in England unless you pay for an annual prepay thingie.

From there it is just a hop, skip and a jump to decriminalisation à la Holland or Spain, especially as so many plod forces are getting less and less interested in people using and are only interested in breaking the black market. They know the revenue stream is there, they just have to do another u-turn like they just have over the therapeutic benefits of marijuana but that will take longer as they try to figure out how to undo almost a century of prohibition and brainwashing.

for those in the UK:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/uk-govt-handling-of-medicinal-cannabis-review-is-called-cruel.969033/

Been doing this about a year now, little over. wrapping up my 4th grow, getting better each time.

Fuck the govt. Its illegal here, and I refuse to register if it ever becomes legal. Just keep my mouth shut and hide in the shadows.

Silvio Dante said:

Meanwhile Canada is the next in line for decriminalisation including recreational purposes.

The overwhelming evidence is compelling mature governments to recognise the economic benefits from removing the public bill of arrests and prosecutions coupled with a brand new market and tax revenue.

The only lobby really standing in the way, as ever, are the very old and very right wing people who cannot think and reason beyond the "All drugs are bad" mantra (Whilst thriving on opiates in hospital for their hip replacements)

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legal in canada oct 17 but really 4 plant home grow do they have a fracking idea how long it takes to grow good weed mean while big grow govenmemt sponsed make big bucks what the jailed people for last year --- nonsense

growmikegrow said:

legal in canada oct 17 but really 4 plant home grow do they have a fracking idea how long it takes to grow good weed mean while big grow govenmemt sponsed make big bucks what the jailed people for last year --- nonsense

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I can help you grow half a kilo a month with just 4 plants.

ttystikk said:

I can help you grow half a kilo a month with just 4 plants.

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Yeah some krusty style freedom buckets and a bunch of vertical 600watters....
There you go

Gbuddy said:

Yeah some krusty style freedom buckets and a bunch of vertical 600watters....
There you go

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Close enough...

dragnit said:

I,m a grower for life> Fuck government cronies and their lousy weed.

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Lousy is an understatement. Its reminiscent of a mix of stems, oregano & grass clippings. At least for what they supply for research purposes of course. Completely fair & objective because the government is full of integrity.

True story.

The question is moot.

Here in Florida you can shoot unarmed folks at gas stations as long as you say you were frightened. Yet they still put you in cages for growing weed.

too larry said:

Here in Florida you can shoot unarmed folks at gas stations as long as you say you were frightened. Yet they still put you in cages for growing weed.

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Man that is soooooooo fucked up !!!

Speaking as a criminal ...I wouldn't have grown had it not been illegal

If you aren't breaking some stupid inane law at this very moment you are probably not breathing....

Nope.

Nope.

its illegal here...so yep..

O, im not a newbie..so ill just fk off then...sorry.

Sticking my toe back in the water for clarification's sake. :

I live in probably the harshest state for marijuana convictions in the US.
The good ole boys down here do not play.
Got busted/profiled/demonized several times as a teenager.
Found out first hand you are the sum total of the company you keep.

Got married at 21, we had a kid; told my wife I had decided I wouldn't do it anymore until it was legalized.
Didn't want to jeopardize anything good going on in my life.
Getting high was not worth losing everything.

Fast forward 33 years later:
Medical marijuana just passed in Oklahoma.
I was one of the first to beat feet down to the clinic.
Grandpa has arthritis in his back it seems.

During that interim I held down several good paying jobs which required pee testing.
I now own my own business free and clear and work from home; semi-retired.
I have a beautiful house on the lake with lots of acreage - all completely paid for.
I have a net worth of about 1.5 million bucks.
My kids are clean, decent, happy people with no problems.
They married clean, decent, happy people and they have good jobs they love.
My grand kids are a joy to behold.
All done on the straight and narrow.

Did I miss getting high?
Yes, a lot sometimes.
Life is hard.

Was it worth the sacrifice?
I think so.

Was my family's outcome due to the decisions I made as a young man?
I think YES.

To each his own I reckon,
But sometimes I look at the County Sheriff's blotter page with all the otherwise okay kids rotting in their jail;
ham-strung the rest of their lives with felony possession convictions.
We are a product of the decisions we make.

I might have ended up being divorced, alone, in a dead-end job, scraping just to get by and pay the land lord.
I don't know if that's the case of course.
But that's exactly what happened to my best friend in high school.

Okay- now you can call me a dumb-ass.

Will Rogers said:

Sticking my toe back in the water for clarification's sake. :

I live in probably the harshest state for marijuana convictions in the US.
The good ole boys down here do not play.
Got busted/profiled/demonized several times as a teenager.
Found out first hand you are the sum total of the company you keep.

Got married at 21, we had a kid; told my wife I had decided I wouldn't do it anymore until it was legalized.
Didn't want to jeopardize anything good going on in my life.
Getting high was not worth losing everything.

Fast forward 33 years later:
Medical marijuana just passed in Oklahoma.
I was one of the first to beat feet down to the clinic.
Grandpa has arthritis in his back it seems.

During that interim I held down several good paying jobs which required pee testing.
I now own my own business free and clear and work from home; semi-retired.
I have a beautiful house on the lake with lots of acreage - all completely paid for.
I have a net worth of about 1.5 million bucks.
My kids are clean, decent, happy people with no problems.
They married clean, decent, happy people and they have good jobs they love.
My grand kids are a joy to behold.
All done on the straight and narrow.

Did I miss getting high?
Yes, a lot sometimes.
Life is hard.

Was it worth the sacrifice?
I think so.

Was my family's outcome due to the decisions I made as a young man?
I think YES.

To each his own I reckon,
But sometimes I look at the County Sheriff's blotter page with all the otherwise okay kids rotting in their jail;
ham-strung the rest of their lives with felony possession convictions.
We are a product of the decisions we make.

I might have ended up being divorced, alone, in a dead-end job, scraping just to get by and pay the land lord.
I don't know if that's the case of course.
But that's exactly what happened to my best friend in high school.

Okay- now you can call me a dumb-ass.

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Serious question; do you think their lives were ruined by weed or the criminal Justice system? Or to put it another way, is the punishment worse and more abusive to people's lives and futures than whatever harm might have been caused by the use of cannabis?