Would anyone like to try and identify some bugs??

The first is definatly a mite of sorts trying to see what kind its not the usualy red spider mite of sorts. The second looks different is it or is it the same in the first picture?
 
They are indeed DIFFERENT bugs.

I found the first one crawling on the surface of the soil.

The second one was on the plant.
 
as others have mentioned, the first looks like a spider mite. the second looks like it might be a thrip but hard to tell from this angle.
 
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