Wilting the crisping clones

MetalSmelter

MetalSmelter

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Took three clones from a mama at three different times, first is at 24hrs, has stood up alot in the last 16hrs or so, and the other at their respectful times....

This is my first attempt at cloning......do i need the high humidity or to mist them or what??

I have 1 23w 6500k cfl on them with a fan blowing on it, all the leaves got crispy on the older ones, but the stem has improved drastically since i first planted it like on the far left.

Using shultz take root powder.

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First, get rid of the fan. Dont need it yet. Second, you need to keep them covered. Put them in a dome, lightly misting them to keep humidity up. And keep 24hours of light on them.
 
i think what MS is asking is why the clones are wilting so bad immediately after cutting and then starting to recover.

using a dome on wilted clones will haste their rotting, BTW.
 
First off I'm no expert with cloning but I have read a lot about growing in general.
Did you water the mother real good a day before taking the clones? If she was a bit too dry that may be a reason for the leaves drying out quickly.
Mist them once in a while with water. It may be to late though....?
I'm quessing the cuttings went from plant to soil with no other attempts to root them.

Maybe an explanation of how you treated the stems and leaves during the cloning.
 
You cant take clones a couple of different ways, Just one thing to remember. The cutting has NO roots to take in the large amounts of water it needs for the leaves. Cut the leaves in half, 45 your end stem cut, either set in water or whatever you prefer. Just remember if you set in water, you dont need the humidity so high, Its gettin water thru the stem. If you go with a medium..You need at least 90% humidity, that way the plant can get that water thru the leaves. It all boils down to gettin the water needed to survive and start root development.
 
Alright here goes....

I've done quite the bit of reading, some suggest humidity dome, others do not. Some suggest rockwool cubes others soil.......no two sources agree.

I watered mama the day before taking clones. I cut them all at a 45 to the main stem, 3 nodes down, pull off the 3rd node slow as in a youtube video to expose meat to powder. I moistened the tip by sticking it in ph'd water at 1" deep to just cover exposed area for ~5mins if that while i was preparring the soil. Added PH'd water into the container until the soil was moist but not wet. I then turned the containers over and pressed down on the soil squeezing out extra water. I took a pen tip and made a hole, poked the moistened tip into rooting powder (Schultz Take Root to be exact). Tapped off excess then put into hole in soil and pushed soil back around to hold it in nicely.

Naturally i'm a heavy reader and i've seen people use humidity domes and others not with no problems whatso ever......thats where my questions come from.
 
Is that soil you put them in? I'm wondering if the soil is too compact around the stem and has choked off air from the fresh cut? I'm certainly no expert on cloning but it seems everyone uses rockwool or starter plugs for their light airy composition which allows oxygen to get to the cut stem.
 
Honestly i'm not sure if the soil is too packed, next time i head to walmart i'm buying a bag of vermiculite and some organics to make a soil mix for my next go round, as well as a small tupperware container to use as a dome for cuttings, and a spray bottle, i'll cut more and it try that way.

I think i have too much light, i have a single 23w blue as well going on them, thats it.
 
MetalSmelter said:
Honestly i'm not sure if the soil is too packed, next time i head to walmart i'm buying a bag of vermiculite and some organics to make a soil mix, as well as a small tupperware container to use as a hood, i'll cut more and try that way.
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Skip the soil.... try the peat starter plugs. The ones you add a little warm water to and they pop up. They sell those at Wal-Mart.... I think you will have better luck with those then any soil type mix.

Good luck
 
Well i'm going to still get those for a soil mix, as i'm currently using some miricle grow mositure control. :mrgreen: Gotta have a better meduim to plant in when it comes time, if not for a seed.

I'll look for the peat starter plugs and then do a few more cuttings.
 
Well i couldn't find the perilite cubes at walmart or lowes here in my town, so i just got a bag of perilite and mixed it 1/2 n 1/2 with the soil i have. If either of these new clones i took take hold, root and grow, i'll repot them into a mixture with more of this perilite, so it wasn't bad that i got the whole bag. I just hope it will do as well as the cubes. I also got a spray bottle for misting and a tupperware clear box for the dome. This should work fine i suppose.

The ones on the right are the old ones, wilted, the ones on the left are the new ones took them not 30mins ago if that. The front one was tied down and was turning to the sun so its got a little lean on it naturally, it should straighten up i'd guess if it does anything. If they start standing up in the next 24hrs and the leaves don't wilt and crisp up then i'll be happy :D

I imagine i should be able to use this cloning setup for awhile.

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And one with the top on.

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Looks good to me MetalSmelter.

The pics show that you snipped the leaves for cloning too!! Nice.

So now its the waiting game.

Looking forward to the next update.
 
Yea i don't remember which video or link i found it on but was suggested to snip them at least 1/2 to put more energy into the rooting stage.

I'll be eagerly awaiting to see if they root myself, my last grow got massive before she wanted to flower because of stressing and an improperly set timer at almost 12hrs dark but not 12hrs, was like that for almost a month at that while she just kept getting bigger and bigger, and really outgrew everything so i want to start with a clean slate and definitively know for sure she's a girl for sure. will veg her till she fills up a screen the flower.
 
Well they both look to be taking and are both standing up, leaves are fine, no wilting, and they look VERY nice imo, so i'm pretty happy so far after a good 4-6hrs of dome time so far. And as you can see there alot more improved over the ones i took yesterday without the dome, or misting.....

Perilite mixed 1/2 n 1/2 with soil.

As you can see i also made a little foam core pad to sit on since the lid wasn't completely flat, i should be able to fit 9-12 under something this size.

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MetalSmelter said:
Well they both look to be taking and are both standing up, leaves are fine, no wilting, and they look VERY nice imo, so i'm pretty happy so far after a good 4-6hrs of dome time so far.
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Cool, glad to hear it.
Keep an eye on the dome and mist it if the beads of moisture dry up and you should be good now.
I'm sure you'll check them a couple times a day, thats probably enough fresh air, if not just leave the dome open a bit.
Now we are waiting to see new growth.

I scanned a bit of your grow journal, I like the screen technique. I'll get back to the start and catch up.
 
Thanks man, i've had to recently cut the tits off of my lady to try and get her to fit my space for this grow, hopefully she will be recovered soon and can get back into flowering :( Its honestly very pitiful what she was to what she is.......very pitiful.

I'm gonna try and ride her through to finish, but if all else fails i'm going to have at least 1 girl vegging to a decently mature state, if something not happened by then with mama and i need to scrog her, then i'll probobly drop her outside in a moderatley shady area and try and get something from her that way.

How can i keep them in stasis for a week or two after rooting for another 4-5days until i can get my temp problems figured out, and mabey my hps as well.

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Now what makes you think that? some explination of why and what you see may help, cause i already figured out i need a dome, and the discoloration on the ones that are rooting is from the mother plant.
 
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