Why do so many people in Trumps orbit have deep ties to Russia?

greg nr

Well-Known Member
This isn't just unusual, or different, or fresh. It's deeply troubling. Russia is an adversary on many levels, from economics to strategic interests to military confrontations. They are, and have been, our enemies.

So here is a list of Trump campaign, administration, and advisors/business partners who have close and enduring ties, both economic and with the intelligence community, to Russia. I'm sure I've missed some.

All the people in the first list were already known to the FBI because of ties and business dealings in russia and some were under active surveillance at some point in the past 20 years.

  • Michael Flynn
  • Carter Page
  • Paul Mannafort
  • Jared Kushner
  • Anthony Scaramuchi
  • Don Jr.
  • Rex Tillerson
  • Wilbur Ross
  • Michael caputo
  • Paul Manafort
  • Rick Gates
  • George Papdopolous
  • Carter Page
  • Roger Stone
  • Michael cohen
  • Ivanka
  • Eric Prince
  • Nigel Farage
  • Peter smith
And dishonerable mentions to:

  • Jeff Sessions
  • Julian Assange
  • Devin Nunes
  • Bernie Sanders
  • Jill Stein
  • Hannity
Now I challenge anyone to name a single name associated with any campaign or administration in the past 50 years that could be on this list (and yes, Jill stein is an exception because she is part of the conspiracy). No collusion? BS, plain and simple. The whole administration is colluding. It's out in the open.

Treason. A good word for it.
 

greg nr

Well-Known Member
Trump apologists need not apply. ;)

Mannafort was "deep". So was flynn. Most of the people on the list were more on the criminal side of russia, but you can't do business at a significant level there independently without also having ties to the oligarch's, which means the intelligence services.

Trumps whole family was involved in money laundering. Those ties run deep.

You don't need to be a geopolitical strategist or a pulitzer prize winner to see this stinks to high hell. The ties they had were different than those with legitimate interests. that's why they caught the interest of the FBI.

Just look at the story in the NYT as an example. This goes very deeply into the russian government.

That isn't normal. It isn't acceptable.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
That's a nice list you made. Define "deep." Now research some high-level geo-political brinkmanship topics. Then pretend you are some sort of investigator (which you obviously are not, but try anyway) and put a name from your research in the middle of a big whiteboard. Now start adding more names from your research all around - start with let's say, oh I don't know, how about 50? Now draw lines between the names of the people people who have "deep" ties.

There's your answer! :clap:
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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Trump apologists need not apply. ;)

Mannafort was "deep". So was flynn. Most of the people on the list were more on the criminal side of russia, but you can't do business at a significant level there independently without also having ties to the oligarch's, which means the intelligence services.

Trumps whole family was involved in money laundering. Those ties run deep.

You don't need to be a geopolitical strategist or a pulitzer prize winner to see this stinks to high hell. The ties they had were different than those with legitimate interests. that's why they caught the interest of the FBI.

Just look at the story in the NYT as an example. This goes very deeply into the russian government.

That isn't normal. It isn't acceptable.

And we’re just figuring this out?

Why is Sanders on the list?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
This isn't just unusual, or different, or fresh. It's deeply troubling. Russia is an adversary on many levels, from economics to strategic interests to military confrontations. They are, and have been, our enemies.

So here is a list of Trump campaign, administration, and advisors/business partners who have close and enduring ties, both economic and with the intelligence community, to Russia. I'm sure I've missed some.

All the people in the first list were already known to the FBI because of ties and business dealings in russia and some were under active surveillance at some point in the past 20 years.

  • Michael Flynn
  • Carter Page
  • Paul Mannafort
  • Jared Kushner
  • Anthony Scaramuchi
  • Don Jr.
  • Rex Tillerson
  • Wilbur Ross
  • Michael caputo
  • Paul Manafort
  • Rick Gates
  • George Papdopolous
  • Carter Page
  • Roger Stone
  • Michael cohen
  • Ivanka
  • Eric Prince
  • Nigel Farage
  • Peter smith
And dishonerable mentions to:

  • Jeff Sessions
  • Julian Assange
  • Devin Nunes
  • Bernie Sanders
  • Jill Stein
  • Hannity
Now I challenge anyone to name a single name associated with any campaign or administration in the past 50 years that could be on this list (and yes, Jill stein is an exception because she is part of the conspiracy). No collusion? BS, plain and simple. The whole administration is colluding. It's out in the open.

Treason. A good word for it.

Challenging you on Sanders..you watch too much FOX.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
And your long-running relationship with this web forum full of paranoid libtards does exactly WHAT for your credibility?

Your screen name should be" "Uncle Buck-Naked Squealin' Like a Pig"

Because that's what you'll feel like after I'm done with you, if you keep it up. Comrade.
yet another banned member returns as a sock to chirp nonsense in the politics forum.

What's it like to have such low esteem and live such a useless life that a person would return to a place they aren't wanted only to say nothing?

Attention whore much?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
And your long-running relationship with this web forum full of paranoid libtards does exactly WHAT for your credibility?

Your screen name should be" "Uncle Buck-Naked Squealin' Like a Pig"

Because that's what you'll feel like after I'm done with you, if you keep it up. Comrade.

Welcome New Member!:hug:
 
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