which one gives more heat???

hey guys just wondering which would give more heat a 600w hps

or 3 of the 200w envirolites?

The 600W HPS by a huge factor(~1100 degree C arc is used to produce light). Proper plant 200 W CFLs are cool enough to be placed within an inch or two of the plant. An open-ended wing or flat&flanged reflector is a best for max light and a fan for greater heat dispersion.

According to manufacturer claims, ~200W CFL lights are *beyond* 400W HID equivalent. So those 3 x 200 would be like 3x400 HID. That's a lot more light(double). Or half the power $$. Your choice.

Touch a 75 wt HPS.. your skin is toast. Touch a 250w CFL.. it'll be hot, but you probably won't suffer a burn.

hm i would like to see the difference i use envirolite 200w clfs, and would love to see the difference in yeild.

to be honest even envirolites get hot wen they are enclosed, so it must be insane with a hps.

Before or after they've been smoked?

it all weights the same ....

is that weight of you saying that they will both yield the same but hps buds are more dense?

Same heat bro..... same heat..... 600 watts. Only difference is the HPS is going produce more weight. Don't waste your time or money on fluoros.

have you ever used envirolites?

TeaTreeOil said:

The 600W HPS by a huge factor(~1100 degree C arc is used to produce light). Proper plant 200 W CFLs are cool enough to be placed within an inch or two of the plant. An open-ended wing or flat&flanged reflector is a best for max light and a fan for greater heat dispersion.

According to manufacturer claims, ~200W CFL lights are *beyond* 400W HID equivalent. So those 3 x 200 would be like 3x400 HID. That's a lot more light(double). Or half the power $$. Your choice.

Touch a 75 wt HPS.. your skin is toast. Touch a 250w CFL.. it'll be hot, but you probably won't suffer a burn.

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You obviously have never used enviro's before. The heat would be very similar, it is true that i can put my 250 watt cfl's inches away but the bulb still produces plenty of heat its just not projected.

so what would yield more 3 plants with 1 200w envirolite each or 3 plants sharing a 600w hps

stiffer said:

have you ever used envirolites?

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No, I haven't.

envirolites do give off some heat but you can easily put your hand on the glass of a cfl and not burn yourself would you say this is the same with a hps,

i would like to try out hps because everyone says they yield more, but heat is a big factor

UserFriendly said:

Same heat bro..... same heat..... 600 watts. Only difference is the HPS is going produce more weight. Don't waste your time or money on fluoros.

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Heat is radiation. Light is radiation.

Heat is in the IR spectrum, HPS produce a lot of it. As do other HIDs.

HPS/MH do not produce anywhere near the quality of light(for plants) as CFLs. They are available in greater intensities, yes. They also waste a lot of power on unused and BAD(IR) light and heat from the 'fire'.

Lumens measure light intensity for human eyes. Examine the spectrum for human visual and HPS together. See where the peaks meet in green ~570nm? That's why HPS rates so high in lumens. Humans see green-yellow as white(intensity)! So lumens don't mean that much when we REALLY want the OPPOSING sides! The intensity is wasted. Plants would see red and blue as most intense.

I assume you've never heard of nLites,,, or PURple CFLs.

They're not the same heat outputs at the same wattages. Seeing as they're at least twice as efficient at converting electrical energy to PUR(plant usable radiation).
You'd need about double the wattage to produce similar ambient heat(CFL vs HID). I still doubt you'd get as rich IR as you would with HID. IR is like a sunny day. Even if it's windy, you can still get sun burned.

CFLs generate *UV light*, then phosphors are added to tint it. Very, very little IR is generated. Slim chance of burn.

HID generates *IR light*(HPS has a 1100C arc) along with other parts of the spectrum depending on the metals, pressure, and gases used.

"so what would yield more 3 plants with 1 200w envirolite each or 3 plants sharing a 600w hps"
The HPS, if grown for the same duration, and total dry weight. The CFL for 'grams/kwh'.

Never touch a running HPS bulb(or other HID), unless you like the smell of instantly burnt flesh, and the pain that comes with it. You may leave a smoldering finger print.

1 watt/hour = 3.412 Btu

http://www.borino.com/GYC/wattsbtu_calculator.htm

so i take it i should stick with the cfls thanks 'TeaTreeoil'

n btw userfriendly maybe if you ever tried an envirolite you would see the heat difference, and i do know what im talking about because heat is a big factor for me, less heat less chance of getting caught as i see it, alot of helicopters in my area

I've offended you. *** shrugs *** I don't know what a brand name has to do with anything, all I do is feel good for having payed attention in physics class.

Look bro.. I'm just trying to look out for you here.... not interested in forcing my style on you, but if you choose 3 x 200w CFLs over a 600w HPS, you're going to regret it.

stiffer said:

hey guys just wondering which would give more heat a 600w hps

or 3 of the 200w envirolites?

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hello m8, i run 3x200watt envirolites in a cupboard which is 28 inches wide-33 inches hi- 18 inches deep, i run 1 exhaust and i have no heat issues, check out my albums if you want to see enviro grows.

del66666 said:

hello m8, i run 3x200watt envirolites in a cupboard which is 28 inches wide-33 inches hi- 18 inches deep, i run 1 exhaust and i have no heat issues, check out my albums if you want to see enviro grows.

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If you run a proper exhaust, you shouldn't have heat issues. I run a kilowatt HID and I don't have heat issues either.