When should i stop feeding molasses?

FRICKITYFRICKTYFRESH

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Saturday will make week 7 of flower on my 9lb hammer grow. Ive been feeding 1 tbsp per gallon twice a week. They're starting to fade out and im estimating about two weeks left till theyre done. Just wondering if i should cut out the molasses or am i fine for another week?20200803_185341.jpg20200803_185412.jpg20200803_185341.jpg
 

Manguy

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Final week of flush is what I’ve heard, some people don’t believe in flush but it’s all up to the grower
 

Herb & Suds

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Flush the last week of flower or else your gonna have over sweet buds gonna be sticky as hell but will be very sweet from all the sugar flushing it might harshen a bit tho. I used to use molasses instead of bud candy and found buds were to sweet for what I like
None of this is valid
Molasses does not sweeten the bud
it feeds the micro's
The op can stop with the sweetness at this point I usually only use it till the end of stretch
 

Secret_garden

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Well my bad, in my opinion it deff does, maybe not actually sweeten them but taste wise I found it does, but I like the pungent smells and tastes. Again I don’t know that for a fact it was just an observation. That made sense.
 

Thundercat

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Well my bad, in my opinion it deff does, maybe not actually sweeten them but taste wise I found it does, but I like the pungent smells and tastes. Again I don’t know that for a fact it was just an observation. That made sense.
You are experiencing confirmation bias, just because you thought it did something doesn’t make it true.

Just like flushing plants before harvest. It serves no biological benefit to the plant, and can cause damage by over watering.

To the OP your plants have at least 4ish weeks left without any doubt. They are still completely covered with white stigma and growing fresh buds. You need to keep feeding them if you want them to survive and ripen properly. They are definitely hungry, and starving them while they are actively trying to grow you fresh buds is counterproductive.
 

Dontjudgeme

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I feed molasses from the start of flowering to the very end. Maybe not as much as you do though. I only only use a tsp in between my feedings. My wife said the taste is very sweet, and that’s what she likes, compared to when I don’t use it. I guess it’s really up to you for when you stop using it.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Well my bad, in my opinion it deff does, maybe not actually sweeten them but taste wise I found it does, but I like the pungent smells and tastes. Again I don’t know that for a fact it was just an observation. That made sense.
I feed molasses from the start of flowering to the very end. Maybe not as much as you do though. I only only use a tsp in between my feedings. My wife said the taste is very sweet, and that’s what she likes, compared to when I don’t use it. I guess it’s really up to you for when you stop using it.
There actually might be something to this. My first batch was in FFOF and I used Earth Juice to make teas. I gave them Hi-Brix molasses almost everytime, except the last couple weeks. All my buds had a fruity kinda aftertaste that I've never had before. I was thinking it was from the guano, since I've heard that guano can "mango" buds.

At first I didn't know if I liked it or if it was normal, but the plants from that first round was the stinkiest I've grown yet, and I've been growing the clone only Green Crack for almost 2 years now. That was the smelliest plant out of the bunch to begin with. Like I said though I was a little mixed about the taste. I liked it, but didn't like the aftertaste.

I've been experimenting with using more guano to see if it was the guano, but I'm gonna try adding more Hi-Brix next run. I've actually been thinking it might have been the molasses. I'm gonna find out here eventually.

I kinda followed this guys final Earth Juice schedule that first round, but it was too much work making teas everytime.
 

Queen2Green

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I use 1tsp (in flower) molasses every other water. It keeps the microbes happy.. You have 4-5 weeks left from looks of it.

My personal opinion is that molasses does add a bit of "sweetness." I never used prior, when bottle feeding. Started when shifting more towards organics.. I noticed that I prefer bud with, rather than without.
 

Shape Shifter

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Table 1. Approximate composition of cane molasses

Main constituentsComponentsNormal range
Water17–25%
SugarsSucrose30–40%
Glucose (dextrose)4–9%
Fructose (levulose)5–12%
Other reducing substances (as invert)1–4%
Total reducing substances (as invert)10–25%
Other carbohydratesGums, starch, pentosans, also traces of hexitols; myoinositol, d-mannitol, and uronic acids2–5%
AshAs carbonatesa7–15%
Bases:
Potassium oxide (30–50%)
Calcium oxide (7–15%)
Magnesium oxide (2–14%)
Sodium oxide (0.3–9%)
Metal oxides (as ferric) (0.4–2.7%)
Acids:
Sulfur trioxide (7–27%)
Chloride (12–20%)
Phosphorus pentoxide (0.5–2.5%)
Silicates and insolubles (1–7%)
Nitrogenous compoundsCrude protein (as N × 6.25)2.5–4.5%
True protein0.5–1.5%
Amino acids, principally aspartic and glutamic acids, including some pyrrolidine carboxylic acids0.3–0.5%
Unidentified nitrogenous compounds1.5–3.0%
NonnitrogenousAconitic acid (1–5%), citric, malic, oxalic, glycolic1.5–6.0%
Mesaconic, succinic, fumaric, tartaric0.5–1.5%
Wax, sterols, and phosphatides0.1–1.0%
VitaminsThiamin (B1)2–10 p.p.m.
Riboflavin (B2)1–6 p.p.m.
Pyridoxine (B6)1–10 p.p.m.
Nicotinamide1–25 p.p.m.
Pantothenic acid2–25 p.p.m.
Folic acid10–50 p.p.m.
Biotin0.1–2 p.p.m.
 

ComfortCreator

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I water frequently with a small dose of Recharge. It has molasses along with a lot of other stuff. Ive found no negatives running it start to finish. The plants can use minerals and aminos from your molasses all the way through imo. But there is no direct sugar to sugar process, it is giving the plants (indirectly) enough to use what they need to maximize their quality (imo). Sweetness imo is completely strain related.
 

Queen2Green

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I use half a tsp every watering to keep the microbes happy from start to finish. I find less more often is better but that is because I'm an outdoor grower and the rain flushes the soil often here.

Imo your plants look a bit hungry. Still another 4 weeks left I'm going to guess.
Agreed. I use start to finish too.. 1/2 tsp in veg because I use less water.. Referring to indoors, I use every other. I did every at first and seemed like the soil got a bit "stuck" per se.. it was too much. Outside I would imagine you could, considering the weather..

P.S. I love seeing your threads/comments ganga gurl! Always on point, thank you :weed:
I water frequently with a small dose of Recharge. It has molasses along with a lot of other stuff. Ive found no negatives running it start to finish. The plants can use minerals and aminos from your molasses all the way through imo. But there is no direct sugar to sugar process, it is giving the plants (indirectly) enough to use what they need to maximize their quality (imo). Sweetness imo is completely strain related.
I use recharge every other water also.. love it. Water with recharge, next water with molasses.. It has enough molasses in it to feed the microbes, but I like to give them desert. Lol
 

LinguaPeel

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None of this is valid
Molasses does not sweeten the bud
it feeds the micro's
The op can stop with the sweetness at this point I usually only use it till the end of stretch

You are experiencing confirmation bias, just because you thought it did something doesn’t make it true.

Just like flushing plants before harvest. It serves no biological benefit to the plant, and can cause damage by over watering.

To the OP your plants have at least 4ish weeks left without any doubt. They are still completely covered with white stigma and growing fresh buds. You need to keep feeding them if you want them to survive and ripen properly. They are definitely hungry, and starving them while they are actively trying to grow you fresh buds is counterproductive.

Plants do not absorb sugar molecules, they make their own sugar with photosynthesis

Oh FOR FUCKS SAKE. How about you brainless sheep assed idiots show me your reasoning for saying such dumb idiotic shit. And don't post some retarded weed forum bullshit, you kids make me really wonder if weed does in fact kill brain cells in most people. YOU'RE FUCKING EMBRASSING and the sole reasons I can never take these stupid forums seriously.

Listen all you dumb fucks, I can tell what sweetener you use. Because Cannabis OBVIOUSLY absorbs monosaccharides. Anyone with a brain can tell. With that said I NEVER use molasses because I don't want generic faggo weed. I don't feed a single sugar in the pot. Feed microbes in a separate jar, and once the sugar source is fully consumed, feed it to your plant. I'm not sure what these "feed da microbes da sugarz" hipster faggots even think the purpose is? There is a purpose, why not figure it the fuck out and actually learn how to do things in a way that makes sense and doesn't turn your weed into Mole Ass Haze?
 

PadawanWarrior

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I water frequently with a small dose of Recharge. It has molasses along with a lot of other stuff. Ive found no negatives running it start to finish. The plants can use minerals and aminos from your molasses all the way through imo. But there is no direct sugar to sugar process, it is giving the plants (indirectly) enough to use what they need to maximize their quality (imo). Sweetness imo is completely strain related.
I agree that the plants aren't eating the sugar, the microbes are. I actually try not to give much sugar so the microbes can focus on getting it from the plants roots instead. I don't want them to rely on me adding sugars. I usually only use Hi-Brix molasses when I make teas, but occasionally I'll add a tiny bit to my water.

I'm thinking it was the guano that made my buds kinda sweeter. But I was also making teas everytime with Earth Juice and molasses too on that round. I'm thinking it was the guano and this "Mango" effect I've heard about. All 6 of my first strains had this mango kinda aftertaste.

 

Dontjudgeme

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Oh FOR FUCKS SAKE. How about you brainless sheep assed idiots show me your reasoning for saying such dumb idiotic shit. And don't post some retarded weed forum bullshit, you kids make me really wonder if weed does in fact kill brain cells in most people. YOU'RE FUCKING EMBRASSING and the sole reasons I can never take these stupid forums seriously.

Listen all you dumb fucks, I can tell what sweetener you use. Because Cannabis OBVIOUSLY absorbs monosaccharides. Anyone with a brain can tell. With that said I NEVER use molasses because I don't want generic faggo weed. I don't feed a single sugar in the pot. Feed microbes in a separate jar, and once the sugar source is fully consumed, feed it to your plant. I'm not sure what these "feed da microbes da sugarz" hipster faggots even think the purpose is? There is a purpose, why not figure it the fuck out and actually learn how to do things in a way that makes sense and doesn't turn your weed into Mole Ass Haze?
You are entitled to your opinion, nobody can take that from you. I do however agree with what you said, I just wouldn’t have relayed it the way you did, but once again, your opinion. I personally use molasses because my wife likes the sweet taste it gives the weed, period. I don’t consume myself, so if it makes her like the weed better, im gonna continue to use it. As far as micro feeding, I don’t use it for that purpose, I have other stuff for that. Regardless of what you, I or anyone says to disprove the effectiveness of it during a grow, people are going to do what they want, no matter how dumb or idiotic it may sound. I’m not really interested in the science behind it’s use, but it has become an industry standard now a days, so it’s obviously doing something. Whether it’s useless and has no effect on the plant or not, growers will still continue to use it. It doesn’t seem to have any negative effect on the plant, at least from what I’ve experienced. So if you choose not to use it, that’s absolutely fine, but I doubt that makes everyone else who uses it those choice words you chose to describe them.
 

Shape Shifter

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Plants do not absorb sugar molecules, they make their own sugar with photosynthesis
Plants can and DO absorb simple sugars. A simple google search will confirm that. Protip - listen to scientists, not stoners.

Yes, plants do create their own sugars. They also exude sugar. This feeds the microbes. They don't need extra sugar from molasess to thrive. But molasses isn't hurting anything if you like the end result.
 

ComfortCreator

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Oh FOR FUCKS SAKE. How about you brainless sheep assed idiots show me your reasoning for saying such dumb idiotic shit. And don't post some retarded weed forum bullshit, you kids make me really wonder if weed does in fact kill brain cells in most people. YOU'RE FUCKING EMBRASSING and the sole reasons I can never take these stupid forums seriously.

Listen all you dumb fucks, I can tell what sweetener you use. Because Cannabis OBVIOUSLY absorbs monosaccharides. Anyone with a brain can tell. With that said I NEVER use molasses because I don't want generic faggo weed. I don't feed a single sugar in the pot. Feed microbes in a separate jar, and once the sugar source is fully consumed, feed it to your plant. I'm not sure what these "feed da microbes da sugarz" hipster faggots even think the purpose is? There is a purpose, why not figure it the fuck out and actually learn how to do things in a way that makes sense and doesn't turn your weed into Mole Ass Haze?
So if everybody understands that in adding a complex sugar to their medium, the bacteria will break it down into more useable monosachharides, then everybody is an idiot for doing the right thing but failing to understand the nuance of sugar breakdown and absorption?

In the end it would seem everybody is getting to the right place, and perhaps only understands part of the science. What is new there?

At least our bud is making us happy and silly and stupid, vs angry grumpy and bitchy!

I mean brother...I know light helps my plant, but I admit I dont know all the details about it. It seems to still work ok!
 
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