When and how much to water in 5 gallon pots?

ibob

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hey whats up i just went into flower and was wondering whats a good watering schedule for my babies if there gonna be in 5 gallon pots with happy frog/ocean forrest in a 4x4 with a 600w cool tube . and a good feeding schedule possibly? this is my first time and im really just going at this by what i think is good... i would love any advice for real! i hope u reply thanks and have a good day
 
When top couple inches are dry....it feels noticeably lighter.....learn how long it takes your plant to wilt, water just before wilting from then on...water till you see some start to come out the bottom

There you have it
 
Yeah if you like chemicals. Its not a full organic line so no mycos in the soil due to feeding it chemicals.
 
If it's OK- I'll offer a counter opinion. You can see this discussed extensively on ICMag, and elsewhere if you google "Soil kPa."

Many of us use Blumat drip systems. This will keep the soil a very uniform moisture level. Drenched, moist, dry- you select what you want. Whatever moisture level you choose, the Blumats will keep it there. Constant moisture level. Moist or dry, it's constantly that moist or that dry.

What we've found is that keeping the soil moist is batter than cycles. I think it's as simple as acknowledging that microbes require water to do their thing, and we'd like them to be always doing their thing. Not going dormant or dying every dry cycle. If you do that Google search, you'll see that this constant moisture level is supported by lab data with other plants. Constant moisture allows more growth.

I have come to really believe that.

Anyway, just another perspective, maybe.
 
Like Qwizoking suggested, let the top of the soil dry out in between waterings. Its important that the soil is allowed to dry out and allow some air in there. This will help prevent root rot and fungus.

I know quite a bit about nutrients and am happy to offer any suggestions. I've used damn near every major nute company out there. My friends and I always seem to have deficiency issues with FoxFarm, especially calcium. See, calcium is a strange element in that it has a tendency to bind with other elements to create new compounds, so to avoid having this happen, a lot of companies will not put enough if any calcium in their products. This is why I use multi-part nutrients. Advanced Nutrients and General Hydroponics are both pretty good, but pricey, especially AN. I found a small company 2 years ago out of Louisiana called Blue Planet Nutrients and their prices were super affordable, so I tried them out. I was blown away. I'm using their 3 Part system with a bloom booster and I'm getting crazy harvests, in dont even need to add calmag. Every bit as good as AN but for about a third of the price. So you may want to check them out. Their organic nutes are good too, but I use the regular ones.

Rrog, thanks for sharing that info on the drip system. I'm a DWC guy, but may check that out for some small shrubs I'm growing in soil.
 
If it's OK- I'll offer a counter opinion. You can see this discussed extensively on ICMag, and elsewhere if you google "Soil kPa."

Many of us use Blumat drip systems. This will keep the soil a very uniform moisture level. Drenched, moist, dry- you select what you want. Whatever moisture level you choose, the Blumats will keep it there. Constant moisture level. Moist or dry, it's constantly that moist or that dry.

What we've found is that keeping the soil moist is batter than cycles. I think it's as simple as acknowledging that microbes require water to do their thing, and we'd like them to be always doing their thing. Not going dormant or dying every dry cycle. If you do that Google search, you'll see that this constant moisture level is supported by lab data with other plants. Constant moisture allows more growth.

I have come to really believe that.

Anyway, just another perspective, maybe.


Hello Rrog. What do you hook your blumats to?
 
I have run the Blumats from well water and RO. Next room, doing all Blumat and RO water
 
One run with RO also. Simple little water pump to build pressure, then the Blumat pressure reducer to feed the lines the correct pressure. Works great!
 
If it's OK- I'll offer a counter opinion. You can see this discussed extensively on ICMag, and elsewhere if you google "Soil kPa."

Many of us use Blumat drip systems. This will keep the soil a very uniform moisture level. Drenched, moist, dry- you select what you want. Whatever moisture level you choose, the Blumats will keep it there. Constant moisture level. Moist or dry, it's constantly that moist or that dry.

What we've found is that keeping the soil moist is batter than cycles. I think it's as simple as acknowledging that microbes require water to do their thing, and we'd like them to be always doing their thing. Not going dormant or dying every dry cycle. If you do that Google search, you'll see that this constant moisture level is supported by lab data with other plants. Constant moisture allows more growth.

I have come to really believe that.

Anyway, just another perspective, maybe.

wow this just opened my eyes a lil bit.... iono about the drip system? that sounds expensive? what about a soil probe dont they read that stuff
 
Like Qwizoking suggested, let the top of the soil dry out in between waterings. Its important that the soil is allowed to dry out and allow some air in there. This will help prevent root rot and fungus.

I know quite a bit about nutrients and am happy to offer any suggestions. I've used damn near every major nute company out there. My friends and I always seem to have deficiency issues with FoxFarm, especially calcium. See, calcium is a strange element in that it has a tendency to bind with other elements to create new compounds, so to avoid having this happen, a lot of companies will not put enough if any calcium in their products. This is why I use multi-part nutrients. Advanced Nutrients and General Hydroponics are both pretty good, but pricey, especially AN. I found a small company 2 years ago out of Louisiana called Blue Planet Nutrients and their prices were super affordable, so I tried them out. I was blown away. I'm using their 3 Part system with a bloom booster and I'm getting crazy harvests, in dont even need to add calmag. Every bit as good as AN but for about a third of the price. So you may want to check them out. Their organic nutes are good too, but I use the regular ones.

Rrog, thanks for sharing that info on the drip system. I'm a DWC guy, but may check that out for some small shrubs I'm growing in soil.

Well i got a guy saying keeping the misture levels regulated helps the microbes stay busy... if u let it dry out ur loosing productivity on ur soil feeding the plant. yeah ive come to find i should just mix my own soil but i dont have room for that kinda shit u know... i live in a small area... so do i need some cal mag if im using happy frog and and ocean forrest? and oh yeah btw im all organic... thanks for the help man have a good one
 
I have run the Blumats from well water and RO. Next room, doing all Blumat and RO water

RO water? what is that may i ask remeber im a first time grower and stepped into organics blindly... and what does it do. is it worth the investment?
 
RO is the type of filter. RO water comes from the RO filter. I have hard well water so it's worth it.
 
Ok, so I am trapped in a PARADOX, kinda like (10 x 0) = (17 X 0); 10=17. My point, I need to
add Potassium/Si to my outdoor grow and I only have ProTekt; I have yet to look but I am
sure there is EDTA in it. Thus, the question is will this strip them of their vascular coats?
In other words, will they die a gruesome death because of this??? I am nearing the 3rd week
of flower and shortly the phosphorus levels need to elevate so they wont be beneficial
anymore ... the micro beasties dont work to hard when they have high levels of phos, neither
will they germinate...what should a growrealla do?
 
Once a week I leach my ten gal smart pots by pouring 5 gal in a 5x5 tarped area and over day and a half they soak it up and love it and also keeps everything evenly moist. So many times I have seen in past from just pouring water over the top for most of grow and find dry patches here and there in pot with dead roots. moist is good with good drainage. Moist soil with no drainage isn't so good.
 
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