What's wrong with my plant?? Bad wilting!!! +REP

Hey RIU. I'm hoping someone can help me solve this problem...

I came home from work a lil bit ago and found one of my plants severely wilting!!

Im not sure what caused this... I had done some LST to it about a week or 2 ago and everything was fine.. But today I came home and noticed that the upper portion of the stem was bent pretty bad.. Could the plant have done this to itself because there was too much tension from the LST??

I hope it's gonna be alright. It was about to show sex any day now. Now it looks like its on it's death bed. (tears)

Im pretty sure the wilting is due to the bent stalk but even the lower portions are wilting. Can this be a disease of some sort??

Plant: Nirvana Bubblicious
Water: 6.2 Ph'd Tap Water (left out 3 days)
Soil: FFOF
Nutes: 1/4-1/2 Strength FF Grow Big + CalMag plus (every 1 or 2 other waterings)
Watering: every 3-4 days (using moisture meter)
Lights: 175W MH
Temps: Day 80-90 avg. Night 65-70 avg
Humidity: 30-50%
Cycle: 16/8

Do you have pets? =] Also looks like either an underwatering or overwatering problem. More along the lines of underwatering..

infdjedi said:

Do you have pets? =] Also looks like either an underwatering or overwatering problem. More along the lines of underwatering..

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ALL wilting is caused by the plants inability to draw water. It is either short of moisture or is overnuted(tooo much Nitrogen).

I'd give her a good flush and then a half feeding of her regular nutes.

Hope this helps!

As to why the stem snapped there is no way of knowing, but that pot looks awfully small, and doubtfully could hold 3-4 days worth of water for a plant that size. I would bet my guess on underwatering, and given your nuting system it's alomost certainly no lock out so a flush is probably not necessary, just give that girl some water. As for the bend prop that thing back up and it should heal itself just fine; what I have done in the past which works very well is to put a small amount of cloning powder on the break area before bandaging the site. Not sure if the cloning powder has really made any diference, but it has never failed in healing the broken branch. Goodluck with the rest of your grow.

Mate, that plant looks to me like its craving water! Look at it and you see its sort of 'collapsing' rather than wilting. The bend would indicate lack of strength in the stem, another symptom. No reason you cant save that specimen

1. gently slide it out the pot into your hand and take a quick look at the roots..... dry? Slide it back in and give it a good water with a decent run off so you know the roots are well soaked..

Thats my bet....... but ......

2. If the roots are moist and warm with some browning/dying ends you need to get it into clean soil/bigger pot. But from your pic the soil looks very dry to me (could be wrong?) and as you say you water every 3/4 days I cant see this being the case.

When you start to water (after recovery) give a good soaking for a decent 10% run off then let it gradually dry out over 3/4 days.

Btw, your daytime temps are pretty high so it will always use more water, so you may need to water more frequently. Ditch the metre and get a feel for the weight of the pots when wet/dry.

Tiny drop of superthrive wont hurt either.

Good luck, unless something has got into that soil to damage her I'd say it will recover fine.

Make VERY SURE that the pots are draining well, and also yes, I agree w/ another comment---new soil, bigger pot, and careful with the soil Ph. It can be very important and many if not most potting soils come w/fert. in them, so I would urge you to first avoid them, and when you get some "non-fert tainted" soil, also be sure to sterilize it prior to re-potting. I suggest after the re-potting, if the roots look OK during the process (eg., not brown or rotted, that you then water your re-potted plants with non-fert distilled water until they flush through thouroughly, and then give your plants a "day off" with NO LIGHT for at least 24 hours. Keep them warm as usual, just NO light for 24. I am pretty certain they willl be OK when the lights come back on. If not, then you probably have aphids, spider mites or similar pains in the butt, and if so, get a "hot-Shot" pest strip for your room & follow the directions closely, eg, keep away from animals, food etc. In reality, they are pretty safe, but I'd still proceed carefully. They worked well for me when I couldn't get rid of my bugs any other way, and the bugs were making my plants look just like yours. They are VERY hard to see sometimes, and can also be in your soil, which is why I recommended new soil. Bet of luck mate! Write back w/your results!

don't do anything to it just yet ur pot is fine for now its stressin from that bend and you will make it worse i have been lsting for a while and that has happend to me before the same exact thing keep watering until your soil is partially dry to let your roots get oxygen just as you always should, It will heal with a bump looking thing almost like a scab mine was bent in a 90 dgree angle perfectly and had same symptoms and came back for a good yield. The reason that it is drooping like that is from the bend cuasing water vessels to have been crushed making water loss through the plant notice that it is drooping from the bend up very noticeably there is nothing you can do stay with the routine and it will come back trust me on this you can cut back a little on nutrients just dont raise them for now
That's a female btw

SmokeyMcPopkinZ said:

don't do anything to it just yet ur pot is fine for now its stressin from that bend and you will make it worse i have been lsting for a while and that has happend to me before the same exact thing keep watering until your soil is partially dry to let your roots get oxygen just as you always should, It will heal with a bump looking thing almost like a scab mine was bent in a 90 dgree angle perfectly and had same symptoms and came back for a good yield. The reason that it is drooping like that is from the bend cuasing water vessels to have been crushed making water loss through the plant notice that it is drooping from the bend up very noticeably there is nothing you can do stay with the routine and it will come back trust me on this you can cut back a little on nutrients just dont raise them for now
That's a female btw

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O.K......not sure how you can tell from that pic that the plant in said pic is a female. It may very well be a female plant but i couldn't see any close-ups which would have given a proper look at preflowers. It's supercropped. Look up supercropping on here. It should be fine bro. MJ is an amazingly strong and resilient plant. It's not like you can do anything about it now anyway.

Mate, do as I said and take a quick look at the roots... you will know immediately if there is a problem down there. No stress at all in sliding it out of the pot for inspection, any serious horticulture student will learn to do this routinely. I have never known LST or bending to cause a plant to collapse like that in 20 years of growing pot, hell I have bent and chopped my plants, it increases vigour by redistributing growth hormones.

Splint it up, check the roots and work from there It's a weed after all and weeds are notoriously hard to kill!!

Just water it. Don't feed, just plain water. It looks grossly underwatered. You either have a major root problem, or a very simple underwatering problem.

I don't know exactly how to proceed, but what I would do is give it a good, solid watering and wait. If it's underwatering it'll bounce back really fast. If watering by regular methods doesn't improve it in 12 hours I would foliar water. Just spray the leaves with water and see if they bounce back.

it looks like a watering problem but the root mass is too small in that little pot, give it a bigger pot and water it

i grew a plant in a 1 gallon milk jug bigger than that same exact issue your having (FFOF Soil) through flowering never a root problem its not that its that bend im tellin you if you have exp with checking the root then do but everyone is not a horticulture college student and if you think you will further hurt the plant it is not worth it. Just giving my personal experience with the exact problem