What the heck is going on with pot prices?

Very true, which is why I said “strive to be”. Being “content”, or believing you’ve reached the pinnacle, will only hold you back. Hard work, Pride, necesary for consistency. “I’m the best” attitude will ruin your game real quick. Even if you were the best, at that point, it falls apart.

Odin* said:

Very true, which is why I said “strive to be”. Being “content”, or believing you’ve reached the pinnacle, will only hold you back. Hard work, Pride, necesary for consistency. “I’m the best” attitude will ruin your game real quick. Even if you were the best, at that point, it falls apart.

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Yep, never settle. Always look to improve.

Terps said:

harder to sell and not legal anywhere

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Grow legal shrooms then,
Go look up morels sale for by the dried pound, more than weed

max420thc said:

Grow legal shrooms then,
Go look up morels sale for by the dried pound, more than weed

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Checkout high intensity micro farming. There are people who are showing the ins and outs of their farms where they're getting over 100k-300k per acre per year. For the most part they're growing quick maturing greens and herbs/spices.

You throw some morel, oyster, shitake, reishi, etc. mushrooms in there and maybe some free range laying hens, use your scraps to raise and sell worms and their castings, etc. and its pretty easy to see how a small intensively managed property could crank out some serious dollar bills in a much less regulated industry.

I'd love to see "at least 4-6 pounds a light".

max420thc said:

Grow legal shrooms then,
Go look up morels sale for by the dried pound, more than weed

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As far as actual "shrooms" that may even be a possibility soon. California is working on legalizing psychedelic mushrooms.

SchmoeJoe said:

Checkout high intensity micro farming. There are people who are showing the ins and outs of their farms where they're getting over 100k-300k per acre per year. For the most part they're growing quick maturing greens and herbs/spices.

You throw some morel, oyster, shitake, reishi, etc. mushrooms in there and maybe some free range laying hens, use your scraps to raise and sell worms and their castings, etc. and its pretty easy to see how a small intensively managed property could crank out some serious dollar bills in a much less regulated industry.

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Morels sell for over 1000 a pound dried, but you have to maintain a low temp of around 50 degrees , other mushrooms are easier to grow,
A huge market is available for mushroom, they are actually easy to grow so long as you can control the environment.
You would not want to grow mushrooms in your basement for example as you have to keep humidity in the 90percent range.

max420thc said:

Morels sell for over 1000 a pound dried, but you have to maintain a low temp of around 50 degrees , other mushrooms are easier to grow,
A huge market is available for mushroom, they are actually easy to grow so long as you can control the environment.
You would not want to grow mushrooms in your basement for example as you have to keep humidity in the 90percent range.

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A basement would be perfect if you sealed every surface with epoxy paint or something similar.

A quick price check and I found prices from 120 to 470 a pound for dried morels. Still, when you take into account the shorter time to harvest, the lower overhead for utilities, labor, and equipment and materials, and the yield by area the potential profits are ridiculous compared to growing weed.

SchmoeJoe said:

I'd love to see "at least 4-6 pounds a light".

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With gravitas it's a lot easier.
And yes it's very doable .
Not many can do it.
I've been in this industry for a long time .
I am currently in Cali and have meeting set up all week coming up concerning the fires ,(I do a lot of consulting work)
I live in Michigan now.
I've seen enough to know MOST growers do not know hot to grow productively when I say most I mean like 99 percent.
These are commercial growers I am talking about too.
You should see the shit quality of product in Michigan and Washington is really bad too.
These growers need to do it for a hobby not commercially . Some growers look at me like I'm from outer space when I talk.
Completely clueless .
These are supposed to be the best growers in Michigan too.
I've only met TWO growers in Michigan so far that have the slightest idea of what they are doing commercially

SchmoeJoe said:

A basement would be perfect if you sealed every surface with epoxy paint or something similar.

A quick price check and I found prices from 120 to 470 a pound for dried morels. Still, when you take into account the shorter time to harvest, the lower overhead for utilities, labor, and equipment and materials, and the yield by area the potential profits are ridiculous compared to growing weed.

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Dried or fresh morels ?

SchmoeJoe said:

A basement would be perfect if you sealed every surface with epoxy paint or something similar.

A quick price check and I found prices from 120 to 470 a pound for dried morels. Still, when you take into account the shorter time to harvest, the lower overhead for utilities, labor, and equipment and materials, and the yield by area the potential profits are ridiculous compared to growing weed.

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Never mind I just seen you post that there were dried. There are lots of other high value mushrooms and other crops. Morels are just a example

Well I'm not seeing prices comparable to weed but it was only a quick search I get lots in the spring here, never thought about growing my own. Back when I was younger and like staying up high for hours I did grow some amazing shrooms ....40 years ago lol.

Budley Doright said:

Well I'm not seeing prices comparable to weed but it was only a quick searchView attachment 4072938 I get lots in the spring here, never thought about growing my own. Back when I was younger and like staying up high for hours I did grow some amazing shrooms ....40 years ago lol.

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It's not just growing mushrooms, all these guys calling themselves growers should be able to grow anything and make a good living,
Go check out YouTube urban Gardner. (Just for reference) the guy is growing bean sprouts and selling them at 20 dollars a flat. You can ten million flats in three days

max420thc said:

With gravitas it's a lot easier.
And yes it's very doable .
Not many can do it.
I've been in this industry for a long time .
I am currently in Cali and have meeting set up all week coming up concerning the fires ,(I do a lot of consulting work)
I live in Michigan now.
I've seen enough to know MOST growers do not know hot to grow productively when I say most I mean like 99 percent.
These are commercial growers I am talking about too.
You should see the shit quality of product in Michigan and Washington is really bad too.
These growers need to do it for a hobby not commercially . Some growers look at me like I'm from outer space when I talk.
Completely clueless .
These are supposed to be the best growers in Michigan too.
I've only met TWO growers in Michigan so far that have the slightest idea of what they are doing commercially

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I've seen a few examples of what you're talking about. At a certain point you have to compromise quality to improve quantity or vice versa. The best model I've seen is light dep greenhouses with every climate control option you can think of and supplemental lights to be able to grow year round.

Ran properly they could easily hit 10+ per light and have a much lower cost of operation. Of course the local climate and seasonal variations will effect the bottom line but it's pretty much going to be the best option everywhere that isn't hot and humid year round.

max420thc said:

It's not just growing mushrooms, all these guys calling themselves growers should be able to grow anything and make a good living,
Go check out YouTube urban Gardner. (Just for reference) the guy is growing bean sprouts and selling them at 20 dollars a flat. You can ten million flats in three days

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The biggest thing is finding a market. Anyone germinate trays of seeds but you have to have buyers already lined up.

MustardBottle said:

Just wait until Canada Legalizes in a few months and every stoner and his dog can start growing legally in heir basement. You can bet a literal ton of it will find its way south of the border every day of the week.

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it will be more than a ton a week and i can't wait for the US govt to have to waste resources chasing that shit.

maybe that will finally convince US lawmakers that they have lost.

max420thc said:

With gravitas it's a lot easier.
And yes it's very doable .
Not many can do it.
I've been in this industry for a long time .
I am currently in Cali and have meeting set up all week coming up concerning the fires ,(I do a lot of consulting work)
I live in Michigan now.
I've seen enough to know MOST growers do not know hot to grow productively when I say most I mean like 99 percent.
These are commercial growers I am talking about too.
You should see the shit quality of product in Michigan and Washington is really bad too.
These growers need to do it for a hobby not commercially . Some growers look at me like I'm from outer space when I talk.
Completely clueless .
These are supposed to be the best growers in Michigan too.
I've only met TWO growers in Michigan so far that have the slightest idea of what they are doing commercially

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I know what you mean about growers looking at you in bewilderment. I just watched a couple of walk through interviews with some of the top producers in Washington state and Nevada and it seriously started to feel like clockwork with how often some of these "master growers" are saying things that are just flat out false. I know how arrogant or smug saying something like that can sound without anything to show to back it up but when you here talk about the latest revelation in weed growing but it's something that, for example, rose growers or orchardists have known and practiced for literally centuries it just leaves me speechless.

Sour Wreck said:

it will be more than a ton a week and i can't wait for the US govt to have to waste resources chasing that shit.

maybe that will finally convince US lawmakers that they have lost.

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There used to be "beasters" everywhere before 9/11. Now no one is going to fuck with our northern border.

@Odin* here is some Michigan Home Grown from my small perpetual garden. Not that I’m from Michigan. Lol

This plant was valued at 600/ per QP.

No chemicals. No hormones. Just potting soil and a little fertilizer in flower and deep well water. And grown from a seed. I plant a new seed or two every week for continuing variety. More fun that way.

And no time schedules or contracts. I already had those for 20 years. I am sick and tired now. I focus on life and health now rather than money. This is my extended retirement.

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Southern CA, easy moving prime. Not “2k+”, I move @24-28. All legal.

I really don’t take too many pics. These are from a room that came down a few weeks ago. Taken for new partner and crew. Represented are Gelato 33 and GSC Thin Mints (those were the only ones that I “shot” during that take down). I have posted images of nearly everything I have (~30 strains), but Photobucket now wants to collect membership fees for 3’rd party hosting. I can still recover those images from their site.
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If you’re having “moving issues”, I don’t have any problem introducing you. If it’s good, “it’s good”.

How about you post yours? Ticket?

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It is a pretty plant , but I would throw that bitch straight in the trash can.
It looks like you are container gardening and that means you probably do not get over 2 lb
If s normally with a lamp.
That still puts you in the top 5 percent of growers you are just not growing productively .
Weed sales by the gram and pound if I plant will not produce well get rid of it.
I get guys who try to upsale all the time. I want so much for this because it is a that.
The only thing that matters is the bottom line, you have bills to pay, if you have some bull shit plant that does not produce and because it does t produce increase the price of the product to offset the loss doesn't work well when you sell and grow commercially.
I heard it , well it's a this and a that,
Personally if you can't make money on a plant because it is so piss poor productive get rid of it.
There are lots of great strains that are productive.If someone tells me they want 3000 for a pound of weed that might sell for 4000 but I can buy a pound of weed that costs me 1500 and i can move it for 3000 guess what I'm buying?
When you ship something in the mail for example into a market for the same product someone is trying to sell weed they just bought let's say 100 lbs and was charged the same amount the guy just bought one lb for then the heavy hitter that was buying all yoir crop now . Not only is his product going to move slower the next time you see him he is going to beat you down on price.
Growers are cutting their own throats and do not even understand it.