kayuman
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Hi Folks,
I have the following issues with my girls:
a) The leaves droop every day, usually near the end of the 18 hr light cycle.
b) The leves are very, very pale green, almost a lime green as opposed to a nice dark green. The mother was an outdoor grown Brainstorm, which had very dark green leaves with purple overtones and dark purple buds. (yumm...
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c) I am having some leaf loss at the bottom of the plants, yellowing, slightly papery feeling.
d) The viens/ridging in new growth almost seems like it was carved into the the leaves it is so sharp and well defined.
e) Soon after the 18 hour cycle starts the leaves perk up considerably, however they don't reach that nice flat, taunt state of a normal healthy leaf.
Fig 1: Leaves droop near end of 18 hour light cycle. Notice how pale green the leaves are.
Fig 2: New growth viens seem almost "etched" into the leaf.
Fig 3: Lower leaves pale off to yellow, papery feeling, some small brownish spots.
Fig 4: More lower leaf issue.
Fig 5: More droopy leaves
Fig 6: After a couple of hours into the light cycle the leaves start to perk up.
Some facts:
a) Early in the clone life I had a PH issue , too high, and obviously some lock out occoured. I flushed like crazy, than went and screwed up my nutes again and over N them
! By the time I relaized this (as all of a sudden the clones threw out tons of uber dark small green leaves). I flushed again and re-nuted correctly. After this issue life was good for a while.
b) A few weeks later a Cal/Mag deficiency was identified (probably form the previous PH issue I had). This was resloved with an ongoing treatment with 30 ml of Molasses/gallon in each feed. This halted the leaf deformation and yellowing... for a while.
- Clones were taking during flowering, therefore they took a few weeks to establish and root.
- Clones have been in a SCROG veg for 3 weeks now under 600w HPS @ 18/6.
- Clones are growing in Pro/Mix.
- I use GH FloraNova Grow with Florolicious and molasses for veg.
- I use a blue lab truencheon to measure ppm's and a hanna pen to measure ph. I calibrated the PH pen to 7.0 solution.
- Temps - Steady 24 to 27 'C.
- Humidity - Steady 60 to 67 %.
- I use distilled water only (bad well water!)
My last feed was nuted at 750 ppm and mollasses aded after reaching the 750 ppm.
PH of feed was 6.0.
Run off after feeding was measured at 750-800 ppm and the ph was 7.1.
(I can't understand how the run off PH has climbed to 7.1 cause everything going into the plant is always balanced to 6.0)
Sooooo.....
Beacuse my last feed run off measured 7. 1 ph should I start to flush? And re-nute at a lower ppm?
Does this still look like a Mag or Cal dificiency, if so should I apply an epsom salt solution treatment on top of the molasses feed?
As of right now the soil is quite damp as I only fed them 2 days ago, these are still relatively small plants (12" to 16" tall) in large pots so moisture is not exactly evaporating quickly yet.... I just want to be careful not to harm the rootball in providing a corrective program.
Hopefully there is enough info enclosed to help me out. I appreciate all and any assistance...
Kayuman
I have the following issues with my girls:
a) The leaves droop every day, usually near the end of the 18 hr light cycle.
b) The leves are very, very pale green, almost a lime green as opposed to a nice dark green. The mother was an outdoor grown Brainstorm, which had very dark green leaves with purple overtones and dark purple buds. (yumm...
)c) I am having some leaf loss at the bottom of the plants, yellowing, slightly papery feeling.
d) The viens/ridging in new growth almost seems like it was carved into the the leaves it is so sharp and well defined.
e) Soon after the 18 hour cycle starts the leaves perk up considerably, however they don't reach that nice flat, taunt state of a normal healthy leaf.
Fig 1: Leaves droop near end of 18 hour light cycle. Notice how pale green the leaves are.
Fig 2: New growth viens seem almost "etched" into the leaf.
Fig 3: Lower leaves pale off to yellow, papery feeling, some small brownish spots.
Fig 4: More lower leaf issue.
Fig 5: More droopy leaves
Fig 6: After a couple of hours into the light cycle the leaves start to perk up.
Some facts:
a) Early in the clone life I had a PH issue , too high, and obviously some lock out occoured. I flushed like crazy, than went and screwed up my nutes again and over N them
! By the time I relaized this (as all of a sudden the clones threw out tons of uber dark small green leaves). I flushed again and re-nuted correctly. After this issue life was good for a while.b) A few weeks later a Cal/Mag deficiency was identified (probably form the previous PH issue I had). This was resloved with an ongoing treatment with 30 ml of Molasses/gallon in each feed. This halted the leaf deformation and yellowing... for a while.
- Clones were taking during flowering, therefore they took a few weeks to establish and root.
- Clones have been in a SCROG veg for 3 weeks now under 600w HPS @ 18/6.
- Clones are growing in Pro/Mix.
- I use GH FloraNova Grow with Florolicious and molasses for veg.
- I use a blue lab truencheon to measure ppm's and a hanna pen to measure ph. I calibrated the PH pen to 7.0 solution.
- Temps - Steady 24 to 27 'C.
- Humidity - Steady 60 to 67 %.
- I use distilled water only (bad well water!)
My last feed was nuted at 750 ppm and mollasses aded after reaching the 750 ppm.
PH of feed was 6.0.
Run off after feeding was measured at 750-800 ppm and the ph was 7.1.
(I can't understand how the run off PH has climbed to 7.1 cause everything going into the plant is always balanced to 6.0)
Sooooo.....
Beacuse my last feed run off measured 7. 1 ph should I start to flush? And re-nute at a lower ppm?
Does this still look like a Mag or Cal dificiency, if so should I apply an epsom salt solution treatment on top of the molasses feed?
As of right now the soil is quite damp as I only fed them 2 days ago, these are still relatively small plants (12" to 16" tall) in large pots so moisture is not exactly evaporating quickly yet.... I just want to be careful not to harm the rootball in providing a corrective program.
Hopefully there is enough info enclosed to help me out. I appreciate all and any assistance...
Kayuman
