what is this??

can someone help me whats wrong with these? they seem to be getting more yellow, but ive been giving them ferts i nstronger ppm, ph'd.. one of them has like pinkish little spots on one of the leaves you might be able to see in the pics, the other has some kind of im not sure what, is it from the light? too close? i put it under a 1000w mh 3 days ago and it appears theyre getting worse.. by looking at those pics can someone tell me the problem?

temps are about 85..
i cant keep the humidity up though with the exhaust going, it stays around 30%, i been watering twice a day, once with nutes once without, uh other than that i dont know what else i could need to say ,please help! thanks..

collieBudz said:

can someone help me whats wrong with these? they seem to be getting more yellow, but ive been giving them ferts i nstronger ppm, ph'd.. one of them has like pinkish little spots on one of the leaves you might be able to see in the pics, the other has some kind of im not sure what, is it from the light? too close? i put it under a 1000w mh 3 days ago and it appears theyre getting worse.. by looking at those pics can someone tell me the problem?

temps are about 85..
i cant keep the humidity up though with the exhaust going, it stays around 30%, i been watering twice a day, once with nutes once without, uh other than that i dont know what else i could need to say ,please help! thanks..

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Looks like the bottom leaves are yellowing and the tops are nice and green. That looks like Nitrogen deficiency but it could also be other things. What are your nutrients? What kind of water are you using?
You should stop watering twice a day. Water with just R/O water one day, and then feed with water the next day, and then repeat. Every time its just water make sure some comes out the hole so you get a little flush.
Those plants should be at 1/4 strength nutes and need time to absorb them. With all that water you might be diluting to much, or flooding the plants. You have the thin perlite so you should have 2 pencil sized holes horizontally right next to each other (about 2cm in between and both 5cm up) so if one gets clogged the other one will work and drain your bucket properly.
You should have waited a little longer before bogging those cups into those huge buckets. I bet those roots never got to taste the 1st reservoir before the transplant. Hope that helps and good luck.

trichromalicious said:

Looks like the bottom leaves are yellowing and the tops are nice and green. That looks like Nitrogen deficiency but it could also be other things. What are your nutrients? What kind of water are you using?
You should stop watering twice a day. Water with just R/O water one day, and then feed with water the next day, and then repeat. Every time its just water make sure some comes out the hole so you get a little flush.
Those plants should be at 1/4 strength nutes and need time to absorb them. With all that water you might be diluting to much, or flooding the plants. You have the thin perlite so you should have 2 pencil sized holes horizontally right next to each other (about 2cm in between and both 5cm up) so if one gets clogged the other one will work and drain your bucket properly.
You should have waited a little longer before bogging those cups into those huge buckets. I bet those roots never got to taste the 1st reservoir before the transplant. Hope that helps and good luck.

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thanks for the reply, as for nutes im using GH and the lucas formula... i was using 1\4 strength but the lower leaves went from green to yellow (prior to switching from fluro to 1000 mh) so i thought id need to bump it up to 1\2.. it was going well for a day or two they greened up a bit on the lower leaves, but then it reverted back to this! my nutes are about about 560ppm at .7 conversion.. as for the holes, i made 4 all around about 2inches up on the 5gals, but i dont fill until it has runoff since for sure there are no roots at the bottom, ive been giving them a decent amount but i think they'll only catch what goes by, so i didnt bother puttng that much.. one of the plants the top leaves are folding inward.. like forming a V toward the light... is that normal? i thought that meant they're thirsty.... someone else told me to only feed every 2-3 days.. but i mean, that doesnt look like nute burn does it? so should i relaly slow down the feeding? lol these things are more complicated than i expected... it actually looks like the yellow leaves have a grey-black tint forming around the edges?? im using distilled water right now, but will go to tap soon (as i tested and my tap water is a spectacular 70ppm)

as for the transplant yeah i realize now that i should have waited longer.. oh well live n learn , thanks again, ill put a few more pics if it gets worse and maybe you can help some more, thanks a bunch +rep for u,

The V thing is normal don't worry about that. Doesn't look like root burn to me it looks like they are hungry and your ppm actually sounds low to me. I do 700ppm to start and then bump up to 800ppm after 2 weeks. Anyone else want to chime in? Nice use your tap that's great ppm but check the pH first (hopefully 6-7). The pH of your solution should be around 5.5 to 6.8. Try your best to keep the temps under 85 or the plants will lock up and suffer from heat. Florescent lights (not cfls) work just fine all the way up to flower time.
Keep it up you will be fine. Some of this stuff just comes with a little experience. Thx for the reps

trichromalicious said:

The V thing is normal don't worry about that. Doesn't look like root burn to me it looks like they are hungry and your ppm actually sounds low to me. I do 700ppm to start and then bump up to 800ppm after 2 weeks. Anyone else want to chime in? Nice use your tap that's great ppm but check the pH first (hopefully 6-7). The pH of your solution should be around 5.5 to 6.8. Try your best to keep the temps under 85 or the plants will lock up and suffer from heat. Florescent lights (not cfls) work just fine all the way up to flower time.
Keep it up you will be fine. Some of this stuff just comes with a little experience. Thx for the reps

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thanks again, i think just maybe i should ph it higher ... i took some pics today of the one that looks in the worst shape.. after some more research is it possible this is P deficiency?? becase im always ph'ing to 5.8, maybe i should go with 6.5 for a bit? , its grayish in color, and almost like little dots or bubbles on the leaves, and the leaves with the problem feel kind of crispy to the touch..

either way i wont do nothing drastic, just slowly change stuff and see if it helps, for now im gonna go with higher ph for the nute solution see if it helps, but here's another couple of pics incase it gives u better idea of whats going on, thanks!

ok so can i get some extra input here please?? havent got another answer since the new pics and its getting worse.. here is the worst looking of the 3, all the pics are of the 1 plant but different angles etc.. PLEASE someone tell me if its nute burn or of its a def, and which one???


and if its nute burn how many days does it take to go back to normal, because its been about 4 and its getting worse and worse... but its still growing not really stunted so who knows.. please help lol thanks!