What is this??? Hermie?? (Picture)

Male and female plants have stipules, what your talking about are pistils

KryptoBud said:

Male and female plants have stipules, what your talking about are pistils

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Lol yes. I mean pistols.
But still, does that mean it can't be a male flower/ seed pod if I obviously found pistils in the pod?

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All you can do is let it go, and keep an eye on it.

What EXACTLY am I looking for with this "yellowing"? Like just watching the area(s) in question for what exactly? Where does it yellow?

KryptoBud said:

All you can do is let it go, and keep an eye on it.

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Im looking at my other two plants and and they all look great and are getting really nice and dense and sparkly. Just as a precaution: im wondering if it is safe to say that my other plants are not at too much risk of being pollunated from this possible hermie so long as there are no visible yellow bananas on the buds?

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tstick said:

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I enjoyed that quite a bit last night by the way.

In other news, I wanna note that one days growth has gone by, and the same looking "pods" continue to appear to be forming on the exact same spot on multiple buds of my Misty plant (the very tip).

HOWEVER, looking at the few I noticed first (2 days ago, and hadn't cut off), I now see very obvious pistils poking right out the top of them. Meaning I'm pretty sure they are swollen calyxs... unless it's possible for pistils to be growing out of male flowers... but to the best of my (novice) knowledge I don't think that can happen. Right?

Misty is an India dominant strain and is said to have a flowering time of 6-7 weeks. I'm guessing in reality that would be more like 8 weeks, but only time will tell for sure. The plants have now been flowing for a total of 4 weeks. Meaning I suppose it could be about time for Misty's buds to really start swelling up before the harvest. I'm thinking that this strain is just really weird in that when it comes time for the buds to really pick up in weight, it starts from top calyx down. I'm kind of expecting (hoping) that I will see the rest of the calyxes swell to a similar size as well over time, going down each bud. That is my theory at least.
Though who knows, maybe I'm just in hermie denial. So for now I'll just continue keeping an eye on it.

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That looks like a hermie making its presence known. It will exhibit female signs like pistols & such while developing the seed. That pod is a seed in the making. It is just really under developed. There will be more. At worst, you'll have some seedy bud.

HydroRed said:

That looks like a hermie making its presence known. It will exhibit female signs like pistols & such while developing the seed. That pod is a seed in the making. It is just really under developed. There will be more. At worst, you'll have some seedy bud.

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Ugh. Well, by that do you mean my Misty plant will be seedy, or do you mean ALL my plants will be seedy?

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Cuz like here's some pictures of a cola each from my other 2 strains... GSC and NYC Diesel.




And I'm like that looks fucking dankkkk and I'd rather they not get seedy at least! Know what I mean? If it is a hermie, I just don't know what's most worth doing... Keeping it or not. Any advice?

Another note is that the buds are a lot skimpier looking than my other 2 plants but I figured that was just genetics, could that be cuz it's hermie? Seeing as this plant is the quickest to flower in the bunch, I feel like it should be much thicker like the others, but it isn't.

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Here's Misty:

Sideways apparently
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has it got too dry or had any heat stress ?

Some of the lower leaf looks like the plant may have got dry or hot ?

Stress can cause seedy weed and so will too much heat, too much heat can also give you very loose untight buds

Have you got good airflow ?

what size hps have you got and how close to it are the plants ?

Also where did you get the seeds from ?

THE KONASSURE said:

has it got too dry or had any heat stress ?

Some of the lower leaf looks like the plant may have got dry or hot ?

Stress can cause seedy weed and so will too much heat, too much heat can also give you very loose untight buds

Have you got good airflow ?

what size hps have you got and how close to it are the plants ?

Also where did you get the seeds from ?

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This is my first grow (well I guess second but first was just bag seed under cfl as an experiment and turned out male). So after kinda seeing how easy the bag seed was to grow I got "legitimate" genetics (Midweek Song - actually from their personal seed bank as well) and it spiraled from their so now I've got a 4"x2" tent with a 400W HPS in an 8 inch cool tube:

It's got a 6 inch inline fan (I think 150 CFM?) pushing the heat to the left in this picture, and then I also have the end of the ducting kinda jankily duct taped to the fan of an air filter (pretty high powered) for some extra kick. Then Idk if you can see it in that picture but in the back right corner I've got an oscillating fan going to stir up the air in there. Oh and also a big old fan (like the common ones from Walmart or whatever that are square) that's "sucking" air out through one of the 3 bottom vents (all are open).

Anyways, sorry, I had a big test and kinda took a lot of Adderall today if you can't tell so this is probly way too detailed.
But like I said before this is my first grow. So I was unaware of the different flower stretch potentials of various strains. Then I found myself in the position where I see my plants getting way taller than I expected after switched to flower lol. And in particular, my misty plant stretched a fuck ton more than the rest. So I suppose it was quite close to the light. And I can't / couldn't really move it up any further.

I actually figured this could be a possibility of what's causing it as well yesterday! I was all worried and babying them, so I did some surgery on Misty by just tying the branches in all kinds of weird positions so that the buds are not as close to the light. Misty is on the left in the picture.
One branch in particular is now side ways in the back stretching like almost all the way over lol.
Short plant my ass MWS...

SO. What I've been seeing in terms of temperature wise is it's about 80 MAX with average of about 78 probably where the colas of GSC/ NYCD are. These are about 18 to 14 inches away from the bulb. I've been told that THAT is too close and I've been told that that is prefect by people. The temp may be a bit on the hot side for flowering, but what I'm seeing is that GSC and NYC Diesel already have some really dense buds forming... and there's still a good month at least (probly more) of flowering for them.
However, with Misty and it's ridiculous stretch - at one point before "surgery" I had measured a couple of her colas being as close as 7 inches from the glass, though the bulb is on the other side of the tube so really it was really like 12 13 inches away from the bulb, BUT it was still hotter up there (the thermometer was a bit lower). Id guess it could be like as much as 83 to 84 farenheit. So maybe that could be what caused this... but again I wasnt sure. The leaves had been doing some funky shit like curling and then some were yellowing but I figured maybe it's just bc it's getting closer to flower. But now maybe I guess it's heat stress? Could that be causing the skimpy buds too?

As for the dryness: it's winter where I am and has been cold and DRY for months. In veg I had a humidifier going just about 24 7 to keep that up to acceptable levels. But I'd read that when flowering you want the humidity kept very low to avoid the possibility of moldy buds, so I turned it off. Now humidity tends to be around 20 to 25 percent usually. Occasionally I'll mist a bit with a very low concentrate nute solution if it gets to be like below 20.

The other plants seem to dig the set up at least! I've got clones rooting for round 2: Monster cropping, that I took like a week ago, but now I'm thinking maybe I should take some more GSC and NYCD clones and pitch the Misty cuz this is frustrating and I don't want my other plants suffering as a result!

Supposedly when i started the description of this plant misty said it was really easy to grow. According to reviews I'd likely have much more trouble with growing NYC Diesel. So I figured the opposite would be happening right now. But here we are with NYC Diesel strangely being the strongest hardiest plant by far... and misty is... not misty.


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I just raised the light (took off the ratchet hangers to get it up a wee bit more).
GSC top cola is now 21 inches from the bulb and NYCD's is now 17 inches away.
Is that a good distance?

Also, does this look like a nanner? It's not very yellow but it doesnt seem to be part of any leaf.


This is right above it:


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could be a seed pod forming or it could be a male sack some buds do develop strange

With a 600w in a cool tube I try to keep the top buds like 12" away from it

but a fan right up high moving the air around the high buds is a must to stop them cooking, sounds like you have a lot of fans I`d more one up higher, or aiming one of your fresh air intakes so it makes a down draft on the canopy works it can also help stop bugs moving up the plants, an updraft is nice but that can help insects move up the plant

In flower I like to keep the RH under 60% but if its been under 40% I like to spray them once every 3 days, more so in the middle of flower as dry air seems to make the buds a bit more skinny but they do normally smell better so its a catch 22

you might want to top or FIM like a week or 2 before going into flower next time to keep them shorter ? or you could super crop or put up a scrog net ?

So here's a link to another thread I started with a bit more success and figured everything out. I killed it.
Raging hermie retard plant

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https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/899915/