What is going on with my babys???(A few questions) PICS inside

smokefacekillah · Jun 13, 2013

This is my first grow
-two random bag seed
-Stealth grow box 24inx16inx9in ,4 fans (had to add 2 more to the box cause of heat issues ) 3 for exhaust
2x120mm fans & 1x80mm fan , and 1x80mm fan for intake
-In a 6qt sterilite container, converted to dwc , a 4in airstone with some pump i don't know anything about
-The lights for veg are 2x42w 6500k cfls & 2x 23w 5000k
-GH nutes , i'm using the lucas formula with tap water/ spring bottled water

so here are my questions

this plant is around 4-6 weeks old not to sure i lost my book i wrote it down in, planted in coir pellet, she has fuckin exploded in the last few days and continues to, but her leaves are so droopy, i thought at first it was the temp, the highest it gets in the box is 80 with lights on but usually stays in the 75-78 range, but i added more fans so now its stays in the low 70's, so what could be causing my plant to droop like it is?

here is some more pics of the same plant

My other questions is for the pic below should i be concerned about these red areas on my steams ?

i also have notice compared to this pic to how they look right now the red has turned more green and i see it thru out the whole plant

Now for the real mind fuck

this plant is a week older then the one on top, this one is planted in rockwool and hydroton, i'm not even sure what the fuck is going on with this one at all, it had some damaged leaves from water being left on the leaf and the lights burnt it, so a few days ago i cut them, and this bitch just jumped up.

if any one can help me, any help would be useful!!

Malevolence · Jun 13, 2013

Make sure you stay on top of ph... let it drift between 5.5 and 6.2. The eagle clawing is likely from too much nutes.

smokefacekillah · Jun 13, 2013

hmm my ph is around 5-6, the only tester i have is the one that comes with the GH ph kit (the droplets that turn color) so i'm going by color, so i have it at the 5-6 range i believe, and my nutes i'm using half the dosage of the lucas formula so its 0-4-8 , in about a gallon of water,

so should i change the res out to regular water ph'd at the 5-6 range , or should i top off my res (which is a little low right now) with regular ph'd 5-6 water?

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also should i be worried about this red shit, does it have something to do with the eagle claw problem?

i was wondering if cutting off the biggest fan leaves to let more light to the bottom , would this fuck anything up?

smokefacekillah · Jun 13, 2013

so is cutting off the fan leaves going to be any helpful for my plant at this stage?

smokefacekillah · Jun 14, 2013

can anyone please help me out a little here? this is my first grow and i'm just trying to learn how to grow

Jus Naturale · Jun 14, 2013

smokefacekillah said:
so is cutting off the fan leaves going to be any helpful for my plant at this stage?

No.

As for the issues you're having, download and study these and see what you think:

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dannyboy602 · Jun 14, 2013

the red petioles on the leaves and the red stems are normal. don't blow a gasket.

smokefacekillah · Jun 14, 2013

thanks dudes!!, i'm hoping these will at least make it to flower, no matter the sex it just be nice to know i could go that far with a plant, i seem to be doing pretty decent i think it's just the plant is so droopy at times i don't know what to do about it, the ph is between 5 and 6 not sure on the exact point tho, and its got good air flow it has 2x120mm fans, for exhaust , but

i do have one 80mm fan in front of the exhaust whole inside the box i don't know if thats helpful or hurtful ??

djxtreme · Jun 14, 2013

move it and use it as an intake!!!

smokefacekillah · Jun 16, 2013

I've read those pictures Jus Naturale put up, and still can't find out, what it could be, so i'm thinking should I just empty the res, and run plain water with peroxide? i see the roots kinda having a dull brownish color an i don't know if its the Gh nutes, i read that their known to do that or if its root rot i might have light leaks but its hard to tell cause when i lift the lid the net pot moves out of place, i'm just not sure how i go about cleaning the roots outside of the dwc tho

smokefacekillah · Jun 17, 2013

ok so went to go change my res today, and i checked the ph, it was at about 4. something, so i just put plain water in their with no nutes, how long should i keep it without nutes?

smokefacekillah · Jun 22, 2013

ughhhh FUCK man plants seem to being doing better but their still clawing up my PH stays between 5-6 and the heat is fine,

ALSO, I'm starting to see the signs of what might be a female, an i want to switch to flowering but i'm worried its going to come out fucked up, or hermi on me i wanna fix this before i switch into flowering, can any one help, i'm all out of answers, can somebody please help me!!!

Malevolence · Jun 22, 2013

Could try using less nutes while also running a little cal/mag. I don't want to go get my GH feeding chart, but full strength veg nutes is probably for a pretty big fully mature plant. If that's the case half strength nutes would still be pretty strong.

Only other thing I can think of is make sure you have a lot of bubbles... almost turbulent. Water temp should be below 70* pref 68. Warmer water holds less DO, and invites slime and pathogens which will often drop your ph significantly over 24 hours. Cold, pitch black dark water with lots of bubbles. Can you take a pic of your roots and res?

stickyfingers1977 · Jun 22, 2013

The plant still looks pretty young to me you should run quarter strength nutes or lower till you see some new growth and to be honest I don't think your lighting is powerfully enuf to burn the energy your plants need to grow properly up the lumens somehow and I think youl see a difference

smokefacekillah · Jun 22, 2013

oh the waters fine the temps are in the 60-65 range i have a 4in air stone in a 6 qt container
an well i have 4 cfl's 2x 42W 6500K AND 2X 23 5000K, AND the nutes are at ,0-4-8

I don't have any cal/mag right now, i'm kinda broke till next weekend, so i won't be able to get that in time.

so the only cheap solution i can afford right now would be to flush, my question is would Flushing help or hurt my plants at this point?

smokefacekillah · Jun 22, 2013

ohh sorry i will get a picture of my roots and the plants as of today, when my brother gets home he's fone got a good ass camera

smokefacekillah · Jun 23, 2013

Here is them as of today, Currently the res has no nutes its just plain spring water, ph'd around 5-6 , i started this last night before its dark period, and it hasn't seemed to help but, it still needs some time before i think any big difference

These are the roots for the smallest plant on the left

These are the roots for the biggest plant on the right

So if anyone has any more insight it would be greatly appreciated

smokefacekillah · Jun 23, 2013

OHH and also i've been looking up on different deficiency's, and I see where i might need the cal/mag, because my symptoms seem to be MAG. deficiency, but maybe mixed with something else, but can anyone tell me if My diagnosis is correct??

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