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regd87

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Hey,

I've been lurking these forums for awile and just never happened to make an account because I never really had anything to post but here is the deal. I have a closet space in my apartment that I'd like to grow in.

The closet is: L-4.5 Feet, W-2 Feet H-6 Feet.
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I have been reading others posts etc, and I was wondering if anyone would take the time to help me put together a supply list for what I should get. I was hoping to put around 4-6 plants in there, but I'm not sure how many will fit, and what lighting I'll need. I have a budget of around $500 to set up the closet.

so, what do I need and what can I get with my budget? Also, if you know any good online retailers or places like wal-mart that carry the items, let me know so I don't have to shop around too many places for good prices.

Currently I have just a shop light with a 60W bulb to put on the seedlings. If anyone could be so kind to help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
 
HTG supply on ebay is highly reputable.

5 gallon bucket
soil (black gold, ocean forest, from a garden store)
perlite
pots
ph test for water (wall mart)
nutrients (don't skimp on this one, they'r not too bad)
at least a 400w High Pressure Sodium (aircooled reflector will make your life soooo much easier) OR a bunch of 24 watt CFLs
ventilation (oscillating fan and an exhaust fan)
make sure you have a controlled environment
tarp or plastic for the floor
cheap submersible water pump (to mix nutrients)

anyone care to pick up where I left off?
 
oh yeah, chains to suspend the lights
maybe black/white poly film to seal off the closet, w/ a zipper for the film
PH Down!!! From A Hydro Store!
 
thanks for the quick responce, Is a 400W HPS light enough for 4-6 plants to flower? with maybe some CPS lights also?
 
400w is plenty, you could do even more if you SOG them, or just go with two or three giants in a SCroG. air cooled!
 
phreakygoat said:
400w is plenty, you could do even more if you SOG them, or just go with two or three giants in a SCroG. air cooled!
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What does SOG mean? and SCroG? thats great news about the 400w, I was going to buy maybe 2, 250's because I thought that a 400 wouldn't be enough for 6 plants in their final stages.
 
Hey man, JUST wrote a help on building a closet for cheap. A 400W would work great for you, since you are only going with the one room I'd suggest buying a HPS ballast and a MH conversion bulb. Metal Halide in a HPS socket, GO TEAM! Your other option for a bulb (props geozander) is a sonagro bulb 430watt. Its HPS with an added 30 watts of blue light. That bulb would work for the entire grow. Best nutes for a newbie to use is probaly the fox farms trio, (WARNING! THE TRIO COMES IN HYDRO AND SOIL MIXES! MAKE SURE YOU BUY THE SOIL VERSION) this trio comes with a sheet on what to do. Using a fortified starter soil such as fox farms ocean forest I wouldn't even mess with nutes for prob a month since the soil is so perfect for MJ veg phase. Far as light mounting is concerned, get an eye bolt, some chains, and spin links from a hardware store, very inexpensive. Eyebolt into the ceiling into a stud, chains through the eye, spin link to the reflector and bingo baby!

Heres that closet build link https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/247213-cheap-easy-zero-mod-closet.html
 
Oh yeah, and depending on bulb intensity your closet is going to have 4,000-6,000 lumens per square foot. MJ needs 2500-3k. You're good with the 400, ANY BIGGER AND HEAT IS GOING TO BE A BITCH!
 
regd87 said:
What does SOG mean? and SCroG? thats great news about the 400w, I was going to buy maybe 2, 250's because I thought that a 400 wouldn't be enough for 6 plants in their final stages.
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SOG:https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=269
Scrog:https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=397

2 250s will make a bigger grow area, but will have less penetration. maybe go with a 600w cool tube?

GrizzlyAdams said:
Your other option for a bulb (props geozander) is a sonagro bulb 430watt. Its HPS with an added 30 watts of blue light. That bulb would work for the entire grow. Best nutes for a newbie to use is probaly the fox farms trio, (WARNING! THE TRIO COMES IN HYDRO AND SOIL MIXES! MAKE SURE YOU BUY THE SOIL VERSION) this trio comes with a sheet on what to do. Using a fortified starter soil such as fox farms ocean forest I wouldn't even mess with nutes for prob a month since the soil is so perfect for MJ veg phase.
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I say this with love, but I must correct a few points adams...

first, only foxfarms 'grow big' comes in both hydro and soil, the rest are ambidextrous.

son agro is not such an upgrade in my eyes, for how much extra it often costs.

most folks just veg with a HPS, MH is not necessary.

finally Ive always used ocean forest with multiple strains/ grows, and plants generally can benefit from nutes from a 2-3 weeks out.

everything else you said is gravy in my eyes.
 
phreakygoat said:
SOG:https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=269
Scrog:https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=397

2 250s will make a bigger grow area, but will have less penetration. maybe go with a 600w cool tube?



I say this with love, but I must correct a few points adams...

first, only foxfarms 'grow big' comes in both hydro and soil, the rest are ambidextrous.

son agro is not such an upgrade in my eyes, for how much extra it often costs.

most folks just veg with a HPS, MH is not necessary.

finally Ive always used ocean forest with multiple strains/ grows, and plants generally can benefit from nutes from a 2-3 weeks out.

everything else you said is gravy in my eyes.
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you never said anything about the light i was lookin at on ebay, what do you think?

where can I look at some prices for a 600w cool tube?

in hydro wise, is 450-600 a huge jump?
 
if you can properly ventilate, that light will be boss! the 600w cooltube/air cooled reflectors are on HTG's website htgsupply.com
i don't know what you mean about 'hydro wise' but the intensity of the light doesn't change between hydro and soil. if its aircooled you will love having a 600w
 
phreakygoat said:
if you can properly ventilate, that light will be boss! the 600w cooltube/air cooled reflectors are on HTG's website htgsupply.com
i don't know what you mean about 'hydro wise' but the intensity of the light doesn't change between hydro and soil. if its aircooled you will love having a 600w
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sweet. I should have asked all these questions originally, but now I'm looking at getting a carbon filter to help with odour, Now I am planning on growing my my closet and having the vent just leak into the room, and then sealing off that room from the rest of the apartment. Anyone know any good carbon filters I can hook up to my exhaust that will get rid of most of the odors?
 
regd87 said:
HTG supply doesnt ship to canada, anyone else have a good site where I can pick up stuff?
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http://www.canadianwholesalehydroponics.com/index.cfm Probably your best bet.

http://www.progressive-growth.com/

http://www.bustan.ca/

http://www.growshop.ca/ This will help you find local hydroponic stores in Canada.

I found most good deals at my local shops, i'm just worried about ordering online I would rather go into a local shops and ask what they will offer you on a cash deal. go in knowing what you want and price it up at all your local shops. I'm sure you get the idea:eyesmoke:
 
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