What are these spots and am I too crowded?

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    bdigi

    bdigi Member

    I noticed these spots on my 91 chemdog and a couple on my original amnesia. I noticed my reservoir dropped down pretty low since I went out of town for 4-5 days. They exploded in growth so I figured they drank heavily. Is it nute burn? If so do I need to flush at this point?

    Also, am I too crowded for my 4x4? I'm afraid to cut anything back so I don't stress them. Thinking about putting a second net just in case things start leaning
     

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    Tim1987

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    First thing is first.
    Check ph and ec first. Double check.Triple check that they are good, and not fluctuating heavily.
    Usually if you feed too many nutes your drop. Also below 5.5, locks out calcium. And calcium deficiency will cause spotting.
    But, make sure your ph and ec is good first. And if they still check out in the morning, as rarely as id say to, you may need some calmag.
    My money's on lockout though. Because by the looks of it you lack mag aswell, and both never show at the same time, generally, if its deficient.
    Check ph, get it in check. Then check your ec. Go from there.
    Tim
     
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    bdigi

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    pH has been at 5.8-6.2, but more consistently 6.2. It was at 5.7 when I got back from my trip after i set it at 6.0 and the water level dropped pretty significantly. I changed out the reservoir this morning with new water at normal nutrient strength and set it to 6.2. I check it pretty religiously, but unfortunately I don't have an EC meter. I'll check it out in the morning but should I flush?

    How about the density? Does it look overcrowded?
     
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    Tim1987

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    Your leaves do look a little dark. I dont think a flush will hurt. Its what i would do. An ec metre would really help though.
    If it improves with a flush, id say it is lockout though.
    You canopy looks very nice and full :bigjoint:. In a good way.
    Tim
     
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    bdigi

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    I flushed for 5 days, but it looks like it got a little worse on the older leaves. The new leaves look good though. I realized that only part of the chem 91 that is closest to the light and a few leaves of the amnesia are being impacted. The rest of the 91, most of the amnesia, and the boss hogg seem to be thriving. I'll post pictures tomorrow, but let me know what you think.
     
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    Tim1987

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    Sweet dude.
    Did you get any readings from your runoff? Ec/ppm and ph.
    Hear from you soon
    Best of luck.
     
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    bdigi

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    The pH was at 6.0 but no EC/PPM still. Here are some pictures.
     

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    Tw BuLLY

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    Nice I'm running Cali cons chem 91s boss Hoggs, flipped 21 days ago:)
     

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    bdigi

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    Any more pics or details? Your canopy looks a lot more even and more but sites. Any issues with the 91? My Boss Hogg seems very hungry but the 91 not so much
     
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    Tw BuLLY

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    Thx, I've cleared lots of leaves n shoots to allow more bud sites etc, I just staked them ystday n cleaned em up, I'm running 9 plants in a 4x4 under 1000 hps, vegged 5 wks, I've had no probs at all, only the stretch was crazy! Bought the smallest plants central n hope they catch up:)
     

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    bdigi

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    How is your 91 growing compared to the Boss Hogg? My 91 seems a lot more sensitive. Your canopy seems a lot denser than mine. what are your specs?
     
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    bdigi

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    How is your 91 growing compared to the Boss Hogg? My 91 seems a lot more sensitive. Your canopy seems a lot denser than mine. what are your specs?
     
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    Tim1987

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    Looking better man.
    IMHO you could cut the nutes back a touch.
    Your leaves are a little dark, and you have minor burn.
    Ph is good.
    Happy grow.
     
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    Tw BuLLY

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    I have 5 x 91s in my tent and all have been fast and strong growers the stretch was a pain,had to pinch and pull for 3 weeks , they went from 18 inch to 44 in two weeks on flip and that's with me training em n pinching etc, the boss Higgs grow different though a lot more viney that need support whereas the 91s don't really coz there very strong , thick stem everywhere, I ran skywalker Kush last year and the 91 grows like that imo
     
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    bdigi

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    thanks fellas, i appreciate the feedback.
     
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    bdigi

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    How is your 91 growing compared to the Boss Hogg? My 91 seems a lot more sensitive. Your canopy seems a lot denser than mine. what are your specs?
     
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    bdigi

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    How is your 91 growing compared to the Boss Hogg? My 91 seems a lot more sensitive. Your canopy seems a lot denser than mine. what are your specs?
     
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    Tw BuLLY

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    Both look similar but Hogg is viney and needs support, I run 1000 watt hps, in coco , 9 x 20 litre fabric pots in 4x4, I feed em sensi a and b in veg with b52 but flower I add bud candy, big bud and bud factor x, n little silica, rhino skin, I've used the same feed now for few years, very simple and the results I get compared to friends using dif feed is crazy
     
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    bdigi

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    Thanks again... Not sure why I have so many do double posts
     
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    Zakmac420

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    I hate when people say THIS is your problem. So ill give my opinion. I recently ( last week) had the same issue, and couldnt figure it out. I religiously check my ph but once its set and i will not touch it til feed, i didnt check it.. But i use airstones..... It woukd raise my ph over noght or even a couple hours to 7.7!!! Long story short i was obviously nute locked.. I gave then 2 flushes and in a week they look awesome again. If you look at your branches, notoce how they look skinny and not much growth? If i had to guess id say flush them, and look at them in 24 hours and say WHOOOAAAA
     
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