What are these little F##kers?!!!!

littlewhitewhore

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I have tiny little bugs in my soil. They are way to small to photograph, but there are hundreds. They are white, like worm things but only like the size of a matchhead and theyre all in the soil round the edge of my pot tryin to get out.

I need to know how to kill them as the only control method i have used thus far is tha vacume cleaner suckin them up!
 
then suck those little fuckers up you dont want them there too long they would be eating the roots of your plants.
what might be a good idea is to take the plant out od the pot and shake all the soil off the roots then get a clean pot with clean compost and re pot them then your little fucker problem is sorted

peace out and respect dude + rep :)
 
try and up load a picture if you can then we can intentify the problem just try with your camera for 5 mins and see what you can get if not get a lump of them and take a picture of them then :)
 
They are likely collembola, or commonly as springtails. These tend to be white, elongated/slender & less than 1-1.5mm in length. They also have a very small "arm" on their belly which they actually use a means to hop & travel. They will tend to stay near/in the soil unless watered, when they come to the top & walk around the pot rims. They get their moisture through the skin so need wet areas to survive. They feed on bacteria, fungi & other decaying material. They will rarely crawl on the plants & won't eat the roots. They will eat any beneficials if in use. The populations explode & are highly resilient- almost impossible to get them all & they are all born female & capable of reproducing. You miss one & it is simply a matter of weeks before they explode again. A diligent regiment of neem is necessary & even still, you may miss one & that is all it takes. They are slightly tolerant to diluted ratios of pyrethrin as well. No harm to plant, just an annoyance mostly. Sure fire way to tell, water the pots & look very close... they will hop 2-5" in the air from the soil top. Good luck, they're resilient...
 
Wow gio I am in awe of your knowledge dude. I know who to look up when I have an issue with my plants. Thanks for that excellent info.
 
Thanks gio, That sounds like a perfect diognosis! I thought they wer some kinda larvae at first. I Cant see any more jumping about since i sucked them up. How deep do they live?
 
This is the tough part... they don't need light of any sort, & even seem to dislike it, though hate the water/solution more. So, they go deep. Usually, once the populations get large enough, they will wash out the bottom of your pots with the run-off. You can spray these with pyrethrin as well. With the larger adults (some may get 2mm or so) several sprays may be nec. I needed a 25x loupe to view them clearly & see the appendage on their belly. Next watering, they will come back up (& hop if springtails), but are definitely working their way all the way down into the pots. They don't bore, just work their way down the natural cracks & openings in soil/medium. Try Azamax as this is azadactrin a/b from the neem tree. Apparently you can mix this with a nute solution as well. Azatrol is similar but dislike as it makes solution go creamy & not sure about nute compatibility. There is an outside chance there is some sort of a soil mite as well (which collembola are a type). These are mites, though not damaging like spider mites. Usually it is a sign of a healthy soil biology... if though an annoyance. If another soil mite, likely a gamasid or oribitid mite of some sort, which go though varying nymph stages... Again, regular & diligent neem treatment along with spot spraying the pots/runoff/trays with pesticide. Best.
 
My problem is That this is living in a Pot of top 44 that i have just put under to reveg. I have new seeds here tomorow and will be starting a new soil grow in the same space ( better quality too, afghan ). Is it worth keeping the reveg in there? I know it will spread. I have allready cleaned and antibac'd my space in anticipation of the new grow, should i let this top 44 spoil it? i mean it was my first grow and astonished me with its speed and yield but the smoke was inferior to the factory produced weed im used to. Still it was comercially viable enough for me to reveg my best plant.

I spose i could take cuttings and clone.....
 
problem solved!!! i took cuttings from two of my best plants; stinky and frostry lol. pics coming soon of my happy lil bansai plants. I have used rooting hormone and put them in peat pots. i will give them a week or 3 to root and then put them in 1 gallon pots and put them into 12/12 when my kush is ready for it. Hopefully they wont get too big... I want managable little bushes of 44 that yield about half oz, rather that over an oz like their mothers....Just for some financial support should i need it.
 
yea these lil pests are real bitches, I have a nice big aloe vera plant thats infested with em, I tried re potting it like cleaning all the old soil off the roots and putting it into a fresh pot wit new soil, and they are still there. I dunno what to do I also tried a mixture of garlic, dish soap and warm water as recomended by a friend and still no luck :(
 
lww, you got it. I would personally choose to sequester that plant entirely as you are correct, they will travel & any pot/medium is choice for them. There are apparently people who keep super moist bathrooms, wet basements, or the like, & have springtails take hold & grow into massive populations. So, this is evidence that they can even come from the outside into your home- they travel. lloyd, I agree, almost like mites (or any insect population) in that once they take a hold, one can never entirely eradicate them. Population control becomes the game. Again, they aren't really bad for the plants, just an annoyance for us. It is my experience that they are even resistant to pyrethrins. You will need to kill with a pesticide all those you can see, perhaps some stickies near the pot tops too- still spray @ every watering. This includes tray/runoff catch/drain/etc- anywhere they may go & take residence. Drench with a neem product as this will act mostly by disrupting them hormonally- can't eat, breed, move about. Doesn't kill on contact or immediately. Can try Hot Pepper Wax Spray as a local deterrent as well. Diatomacious Earth is effective as a barrier but must stay dry, which also means very dusty (think super fine talc powder). It kills by cutting the insect bodies, and if they eat it, ripping up their guts. For soil drench, neem is best bet, lest you go agro-chems... bad. BTW, just mixed up a batch of Azamax, as had, just never used it. It too clouds the solution. I mixed a 730 solution at 5gal with Azx @ 60ml. The low recommended dose for soil drench is 2.7fl oz vs my 2oz mix (the high doubles it, but...). Soaked a few plants in 2L pots. No burn, no curling of the leaves. No pH and/or ppm effect to the solution. Added at the end of mix. It is oily, but no where near that of regular cold-pressed neem (bioneem, einsteins, etc). Very slight odor comparatively. Emulsifies well. Of the neem products, I like workin with it the best. See how well it works...
 
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