hanimmal
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So I decided to figure out what all these 'Czars' are about that have everyone in such a panic.
I mean how can we have 50 different rulers? Is that what they are? Or are they something different and that name just stuck?
Should Obama cave in on this term like he did on the word 'terrorist' and draw all kinds of criticism from the right again? Or should he stand his ground with this word and draw criticism from the right? Either way I guess.
So first up I found this post of the president not doing anything, but being lucky that his war czar is actually listening to the generals and advising on what to do:
Hmm so I am trying to find out the powers off all these extra czars and all I can find is website after website, saying things like 'sweeping powers' and 'doesn't answer to congress' and 'not in the constitution'.
But nothing that actually says what it does. The closest I could find is this from Fox News: http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/07/17/2105/
The White house doesn't even like this term according to Fox News:
So it really seems that these appointments that everyone is so worried about are nothing more than people with expertise in these fields reporting what they see to the president, and possibly giving their opinion on if it would work or not.
So even the people against van jones would have to admit that even if he is a communist (which he said when he was in college, and how many people say stupid stuff in college?), he would have strong feelings about job creation in the green sector right.
So if he was just advising if these companies where producing the jobs needed wouldn't that be fine?
Or should he draw criticism and just cave into the paranoid and change their name to something less scary, like "Advisers". Not that it would even matter, because it would never be dropped by the very people that are so against this term.
I mean how can we have 50 different rulers? Is that what they are? Or are they something different and that name just stuck?
Should Obama cave in on this term like he did on the word 'terrorist' and draw all kinds of criticism from the right again? Or should he stand his ground with this word and draw criticism from the right? Either way I guess.
So first up I found this post of the president not doing anything, but being lucky that his war czar is actually listening to the generals and advising on what to do:
Oh wait this is from 2007, so a czar helped turn the tide....ABC News is reporting that Lt. General Douglas Lute is going to be named the White House "War Czar."
Those of us who have a rudimentary understanding of the military and Constitution know that there is already a war czar. The position has a different name, though -- commander in chief, or as the president says, 'the commander guy.'
Hmm so I am trying to find out the powers off all these extra czars and all I can find is website after website, saying things like 'sweeping powers' and 'doesn't answer to congress' and 'not in the constitution'.
But nothing that actually says what it does. The closest I could find is this from Fox News: http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/07/17/2105/
So we are talking about a ficticious word used by the people that are reporting these appointments. And 'analysts' say that it 'feels' top-heavy, not that it actually is.Merriam Webster online defines a 'czar' as "the ruler of Russia until the 1917 revolution." But it's the dictionary's alternate definition, "one having great power or authority", that has ruffled many a feather lately.
While the term 'czar' is unofficial, the prevalence of such executive posts in President Obama's administration has gotten noticed.
The administration has nearly three dozen czars. While some of those jobs are actually mandated by congress, others are entirely new creations of Mr. Obama.
Although analysts note it's not likely all of the czars get face time with the commander-in-chief-- only ten actually report directly to the president-- they say the executive branch does have the feeling of top-heaviness.
The White house doesn't even like this term according to Fox News:
So there is no actual information about what these people do other than 'oversee' their areas. So in essence that would mean that they are observers. And don't have any power to do anything other than report. And not that they have any 'power' to do anything in those areas (Note: There are a few Czars that are mandated and have powers but those have been there before now, and have to be approved by congress.)The term czar, by the way, is one rarely uttered by Mr. Obama or his aides, unless they are trying to correct its use. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs has been known to alter the terminology, "If there's a marketing czar, I've failed to get his or her memo."
So it really seems that these appointments that everyone is so worried about are nothing more than people with expertise in these fields reporting what they see to the president, and possibly giving their opinion on if it would work or not.
So even the people against van jones would have to admit that even if he is a communist (which he said when he was in college, and how many people say stupid stuff in college?), he would have strong feelings about job creation in the green sector right.
So if he was just advising if these companies where producing the jobs needed wouldn't that be fine?
Or should he draw criticism and just cave into the paranoid and change their name to something less scary, like "Advisers". Not that it would even matter, because it would never be dropped by the very people that are so against this term.