Wait, so Azamax is basically neem?

I was chatting with some folks about pests the other day, and one started raving about Azamax as the best way to knock down and keep away mites. His neighbor scoffed and said that it's just synthetic neem oil...
Upon personal investigation, I discovered that it is indeed derived from neem, but it's only a piece of the full spectrum of compounds that neem can offer. Has anybody side by side tested Azamax vs neem oil?

Next year I'm skipping this nonsense and just adding neem meal to my soil mixes...

I think azamax mixes better and is more effective on insects because of it.

NaturalFarmer said:

more efgecteffon insects.

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I would think Neem would be more "broad spectrum" than Azamax, but who knows.

So Azamax isn't an oil?

I think the azamac works more systematically then oil which coats like a soap. I think azamac is taken up by the roots.

OMRI LISTED. AzaMax provides broad spectrum insect and mite control. It also works for the suppression of root knot nematodes. A botanical insecticide extracted from seeds of the neem tree, Azadirachta indica, AzaMax works in several ways:

• Interrupts the insect's life cycle and inhibits development of target pests.
• Works well with other biocontrol treatments (Beauveria bassiana, beneficial nematodes, Btk treatments).
• Acts as a strong repellent and deters feeding by target pests reducing plant damage.

AzaMax is highly compatible with most insecticide sprays used in Integrated Pest Management programs. Use caution when applying azadirachtin after beneficial insects are released. Contact with non-target insects is harmful and should be avoided if possible.

This Product Controls These Pests: Aphids, Beetles, Caterpillars, Fungus Gnats, Lacebugs, Leafhoppers, Leafminers, Mealybugs, Mites, Psyllids, Russet Mites, Scale Insects, Spider Mites, Thrips, Root Knot Nematodes, Whitefly. Please see label for the full list of target pests.

I Highly recommend reading reviews and third party testimonials about the use of "AZAMAX" on your MJ plants..

The Oregon Depart. Of Agriculture recently found that Azamax also has pyrethrins that are unlisted on the bottle. Pyrethrum isn’t so bad when used properly, but just something to be aware of. I think Azamax is better to drench with than normal Neem because it isn’t nearly as oily and won’t slime up the roots as bad. For spraying, I suggest checking out the products at neemresource.com for some pure pressed Neem oil. My understanding is that there are other things in the pure form besides the azadirachtin that are beneficial.

Southerner said:

The Oregon Depart. Of Agriculture recently found that Azamax also has pyrethrins that are unlisted on the bottle. Pyrethrum isn’t so bad when used properly, but just something to be aware of. I think Azamax is better to drench with than normal Neem because it isn’t nearly as oily and won’t slime up the roots as bad. For spraying, I suggest checking out the products at neemresource.com for some pure pressed Neem oil. My understanding is that there are other things in the pure form besides the azadirachtin that are beneficial.

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I have some dyna-gro neem oil that I've never used, i'm considering it since I need to establish a spray rotation again this year. I'm trying to find a more natural replacement for permethrin in the cycle without paying a billion dollars, so I've been avoiding Azamax thus far...

I am almost ready to try pyrethrins or tempo. I have both bought These damn white flies just wont stop.

docter said:

Hyperemesis

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There have been reports of these types of symptoms with the use of that product. Now, I'm not speaking from experience but, this information is out there.

they are both from the same tree, neem oil is actually "clarified hydrophobic extract of neem oil", and azadirachtin (azamax's main ingredient) is extracted from the left overs with alcohol.

https://gpnmag.com/article/explaining-azadirachtin-and-neem/

docter said:

Hyperemesis

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Permethrin does this? Is that what's going on here?

Vostok posted something about it a while back ask him about he might have a few links. I have personally have stopped using azomax

Miyagismokes said:

Permethrin does this? Is that what's going on here?

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There are a number of people who have had symptoms from using azomax. I think it is due to spraying in flower but, because of plant uptake this is debated..

Miyagismokes said:

I was chatting with some folks about pests the other day, and one started raving about Azamax as the best way to knock down and keep away mites. His neighbor scoffed and said that it's just synthetic neem oil...
Upon personal investigation, I discovered that it is indeed derived from neem, but it's only a piece of the full spectrum of compounds that neem can offer. Has anybody side by side tested Azamax vs neem oil?

Next year I'm skipping this nonsense and just adding neem meal to my soil mixes...

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Azamax is trash and it's owned by Monsanto. You will be so much better off without.

I don't like what neem does to the plant, it is systemic and it seems mobile within the plant. Same for azamax or azatrol. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the subject will chime in. I'd rather use straight permethryns, than either any form of neem (cold pressed, hydrophilic extraction or meal) or azamax.

Miyagismokes said:

Permethrin does this? Is that what's going on here?

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To clarify pymetherins would be the natural extract from chrysanthemums permethrins are synthesized or derived from pymetherins.

And I believe it was either azamanthrin or neem that was suspected.

MrKnotty said:

owned by Monsanto

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised....

There are a lot of similar spectrum pest control products out there. The systematic or modified pesticides are pretty nasty when it comes to MJ or vegetables. Makes sure you read the labels completely.

I haven't had problems with Neem or neem concentrates changing the flavor or given any strange side effects in past use. I haven't sprayed in flower either.