Undercover cops can't deny being police?

ArcticGranite said:

Oh man- talk about leading with the chin , where are riu's wittier quote and posters. Sorry bra, couldn't resist the low fruit. Happy Thanksgiving.

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I'm resisting. cn

budlover13 said:

Cops can and do lie to you. There is no law saying they must be honest with you.

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Absolutely correct. But if they say no, and lie- it's your word vs. theirs and YOU'LL LOSE every time in court in front of a judge. Easiest way to avoid this is only deal with people you've known for a very long time. My number is 10 years.......if I haven't known you for that long, FUCK OFF!

Lol this is an old urban legend. Cops do not have to identify themselves if undercover and you ask. Now if your being arrested or kicked in they must identify themselves prior to doing so ie"Police department! Search warrant": then kick in...Now it got mixed up like this as it is a common practice to ask someone if they are a cop to see their reaction or if they seem nervous or over compensate trying to prove they are not which is why the prostitutes used to use the code always ask and observe while asking for tip offs.

I always thought they were not allowed to party though. So, if they aren't smoking, or doing a line, or whatever......then I'd be really concerned.

according to Barry Cooper, former narcotics officer turned anti-drug war documentary maker, narcs are not allowed to use drugs, but he says with weed they know tricks like how to take the smoke in their mouth and then blow it out through their noses to make it look like they are smoking. He says that the best way to make sure the person you are dealing with is not faking like that is to make them take a bong rip, which cant be faked. I think he did say though that there probably are a few cops out there that would break the rules and take the bongrip to get the bust. Here is a link to his video which goes into detail about this subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InJHDLNCRzc

cops are like vulcans they can not lie LOL

FilthyFletch said:

Lol this is an old urban legend. Cops do not have to identify themselves if undercover and you ask. Now if your being arrested or kicked in they must identify themselves prior to doing so ie"Police department! Search warrant": then kick in...Now it got mixed up like this as it is a common practice to ask someone if they are a cop to see their reaction or if they seem nervous or over compensate trying to prove they are not which is why the prostitutes used to use the code always ask and observe while asking for tip offs.

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Bingo.

First of all this idea that undercover cops can't deny that they police are is so stupid, it defines reason that anyone could actually believe it.

Cops are not only legally permitted to lie in furtherance of their duty, their training and job description often REQUIRES them to do so.

Hint. . .what does the word "undercover" mean? It means that they are pretending to be something they are not. If undercover cops were obligated to blow their cover just because of a simple question like this, there would be no such thing as undercover police, period.

The reason you ask someone if they're an undercover cop is to gauge their reaction and try to read their body language to see if their response appears truthful. Of course any GOOD undercover cop has been asked this question a hundred times already and will put out a convincing denial, so in the real world asking is probably not all that effective, but maybe some rookie might not handle himself right and could give himself up this way.

On undercover cops actually using drugs, no, they're not "supposed" to do so, but in practice:

a. Most people (even non-cops) can come up with fairly convincing reasons why they can't use any particular drug at any moment. ("Just had some", "makes me paranoid/sick", "gotta get some rest/drive/etc", "my work has been doing piss tests, and I can't afford to lose my job", etc).

b. Cops can still fake using drugs (in some cases fairly convincingly), if they need to.

c. Even they do use drugs on duty, that probably won't invalidate any arrest they make or evidence they gather, and

d. In practice, if any given dept has a reason to suspect a particular officer might have used drugs on duty (which it probably won't) there are any number of good reasons it would probably want to look the other way.


Bottom line is, someone's refusal to use drugs might be innocent; and conversely you can't conclude that just because someone appears to be using, that they are NOT a cop.

COPS ARE THE BEST LIARS! they all admit it too. They pretend to be your best friend blah blah. Never EVER believe them they are trained liars.

[video=youtube;3eVez_EpeuM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eVez_EpeuM[/video]

NO...... an undercover cop does NOT have to say he or she is a cop

Lying is part of their job.

My brother is a cop, and no they do not have to when undercover<---key word...

its der job to lie

CashCrops said:

My brother is a cop, and no they do not have to when undercover<---key word...

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They don't have to be honest with you when in uniform either.

budlover13 said:

They don't have to be honest with you when in uniform either.

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That's correct

Just from the link, think about this scenario for one second...

Why no, Mister Smelly Hippie

We Most Definitely Are Not Cops.
We'll take two kilos of your finest smoking marijuana please.

common practise for cops to lie out there ass . . . .and we all know it

In TEXAS they don't have to tell you anything. My Ex was a Police officer and I asked a million questions, this being one of them.