Unconventional Organics

Pwezzy

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LMAO!!!!! "PUPPY PLANT BYATCH!" HAHA! Nice!

No better way to honor the memory of your pup! I been telling my friends, if I get cremated, I'm going to will them to put some of me in a soil mix, grow me out, then smoke me on my death anniversary.
My bad to bring up something old but thnx for the dope ass idea
 

Ecompost

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Aloe vera is great as an antistress agent during transplants
it is also a saponin and so is a natural fungicide. it contains glucosides and a great number of other benefits, including enhancing nutrient uptake by converting water to more closely resemble the very same plasma found in all cells
 

Ecompost

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I will be running a DWC tomato grow using my ow urine as the bulk nutrient.... a little wood ash tossed in once the plants starts to set flowers. I'll post results in here.
Perhaps you might try fermenting your urine in to something called Purine. fermentation makes most things better. if you Youtube Purine you will likely find vids. Dont forget, a great big citrus tree only needs about 20 urinations before it has its years quota of N. If you see aphids you have over done it
 

Ecompost

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my buddy uses his Dog SHIT on his vegible garden. and I piss/urinenate on my vegible garden. I knew a guy that would pick up road kill and thow it in a pile and let it compost and use it on his Weed plants
i honestly see little value in putting NH4+ on to annuals who prefer NO3- but to each his own. Perhaps if you are having issues with pests through the cycle you ought to see this as a sign to change practice? if you dont get issues, all good
 

Ecompost

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I use crawfish from the river up the road. I smash up about 5 good size ones for every gallon of soil. I also use alpaca manure. My total recipe is kind of eyeballed, but its basically perlite, vermiculite, crawfish, my forest mulch compost tea, alpaca manure and worm castings from the cow pasture. I used to use the cow manure, but I find the alpaca manure doesn't have as foul an odor when using indoors. I've had great results so far.
you should bokashi ferment the cow shit or any other manure to reduce the smell. The smell comes from putrefaction which is rotting, this is not great imo. You can use the juice from sauerkraut to prevent the foul odors
 

Ecompost

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Only if you want to be locked up by the Zoo Police! LOL they sell that stuff or use it!
yes they sell it in most locations, or just compost it on site. A number of years ago we tried to secure the waste from a Zoo which we had planned to use as a bokashi but there was so much red tape we found other sources without the hassle.
 

Ecompost

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Alfalfa meal tea for the Triancontrol compound (the chemical found in "snow storm ultra").

Spent hops in the compost pile from the local brewery.

Spent coffee grounds in the compost pile from the local coffee shop. You can include the coffee filters too, no prob -- they biodegrade quick.

Seaweed washed ashore and collected and rinsed then in the compost pile.
malted barley too while at the brewery, also to take the spent yeast waste if possible, excellent for fungal mass and so for perennials
 

Ecompost

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i take a ton of leafs off to similate an animal attack on my plants when they get too bushy and plot out the lights opps animal attack crazy i know but the weed gets you ripped i think it increases thc idk though i could just be f ing my plants up
it increases tannins.
 

Ecompost

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has anyone experimented with different types of worms or is the little earthworm guys the best option?
worms are very specialized, EG you cant put composting worms in to ground soil, well not unless you heap shit loads of um-composted organics on top. earth worms are the family you need if adding to soils.
 

Ecompost

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That makes sense, aloe vera has healing properties in the liquid. My question is how do you harvest it. Just pick the leaves and squeeze out the gel or is there a powder for purchase?
both :-) whole leaf extraction is better, its like kelp meal is better than liquid kelp
 

Ecompost

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The roots don't absorb the CO2 from the carbonated water...roots breathe O2..however, a disturbance at the root level by way of the carbonation creates a positive effect on the plant...my own theory is it has a positive effect on the physical environment of the roots...but I do not know what that is!

All I know is my plants love it from time to time!

Ps. You can foliar with carbonated water for a minimal CO2 uptake...but I have not seen a great effect by this method.
OK, so if you add CO2 and water to soil you get a light acid, this mild acid etches minerals from the parent material in plant ready states, eg many of the micro nutrients are made ready this way. CO2+O+H = COOH or carboxylic acid This is the fundamentals of nutrient cycling. More normally in LOS the aerobic microbes provide the CO2 along side the roots of the plant itself. This is why plants suffer in drought as they quickly lose access to critical micros.
if you want to know how well your soil is working, you measure the burst rate of CO2 and not the NPK alone.
 

Ecompost

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Hmm...I guess I just need some science to figure out why it has a positive effect...I was assuming the leaves would breathe the CO2, not the roots, just thinking that maybe as you pour and the bubbles pop it releases a bunch of CO2 directly at the base of the plant...with a sealed room that would be a noticeable increase in ppm
go and have a look at Dr Rick Haney and Will Brinton, Solvita do the testing kits
 

Ecompost

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After doing a bit of reading online it appears that the mineral content of the water has a lot to do with it...apparently it can provide the plant with all the micronutrients it needs? Or something along those lines. Interesting....might have to give it a try...
not quite, the CO2 mixes with oxygen and hydrogen in water to make acid which chelate micros from bed rock or parent material
 

Ecompost

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Not the best advice for organics I don't think....H2O2 + microbeasties = chaos. The aerobic bacteria may love the extra oxygen boost, but any of the "good" anaerobic bacteria in your soil will be immediately fried...and these are harder to replace than the aerobic bacteria (just water with a nice AACT and you can replenish your aerobic population almost instantly, not necessarily the case with anaerobic).

For an O2 boost I would just say grow in airpots or smartpots...that will give your roots all the oxygen they could ever need :mrgreen:
most microbes you are discussing are facultative, so they flip flop between aerobic and anaerobic depending on the levels of available DO2. You dont want Anaerobes they will cause rot. You must keep Dissolved O2 levels above 6ppms or you lose.
 
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