To those who think transplanting to large pots isn't very useful..

Dribbles · Jan 2, 2014

This was meant to be the before/after for another thread for the new cert. Organic seaweed fert I got, but I couldn't resist giving it to both of these two "test" tomatoes and as it's turned-out, both these two (Tomato O: Left and Tomato I: Right) have been fed from the same bucket of slop at the same time, every time.

The only difference in treatment between the two, is that 4 days ago I transplanted Tomato I into the big 40-50L black pot. Both plants came from the same packet, were planted as seeds within minutes of each other, and both have been left in the same location for the past couple weeks so got the same amount of sunlight per day.

Incidently the smaller of the two (Tomato O) has only just started touching the bottom of the squarish brown pot in the photo, and isn't by any means rootbound but *just* starting to touch the bottom now.

So if a few days in a larger pot can make that much of a difference, imagine how much growth is lost when one procrastinates and leaves plants in undersized pots for longer periods.

Big certainly is beautiful for pots!

UncleBuck · Jan 2, 2014

i didn't need convincing, but you convinced me anyway.

Dribbles · Jan 2, 2014

I should've made the title "To those of us who procrastinate potting UP plants to larger pots", oh well.

The one on the left will be transplanted next, so I'll be curious to see whether it catches-up after a week or two. There're two other Tomatoe plants need potting up too.

Dribbles · Jan 2, 2014

UncleBuck said:
i didn't need convincing, but you convinced me anyway.

Good good! If I wasn't so lazy, I'd take photos of the roots for the smaller of the two. Remarkable thng I noticed is it's just now starting to reach to the bottom, not wound-around the pot in a mat of roots, and neither was the bigger one a few days ago when it was transplanted: in was only just starting to reach the bottom.

Reakon all the compost and worms I added to that large pot just set the plant off when it got a taste

still young yet, but it's not even got a single bug anywhere. Gunna spray em all with neem every week or so to manage the hordes of tomato-munching shit-suckers from getting a foothold.

Dribbles · Jan 2, 2014

I really should go repot the other three, cos it'd be the definition of stupidity to lecture about procrastination, then fail to follow my own advice.

alwaysgreen420 · Jan 2, 2014

Amazing. How high are you? Are your tomatoes juicy

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LIBERTYCHICKEN · Jan 2, 2014

I am a massive fan of giveing plants all the room that they may need (I just grow directly in the ground)

But Tomato from seeds can have very, very different pheno's , Most tomato varitys are actualy clone , some are even clone on a graft

Dribbles · Jan 2, 2014

True enough, though these are heirloom seeds, and certified non-GM too so they will have variations, but all three of the small ones are pretty much the same size, and they're all from the same packet/planting, I'll take a pic of all four: even if you look at em all together the average is the same size, with just one of foir hsving three times the foliage, the one in the big pot.

Can't argue with averages

Dribbles · Jan 2, 2014

LIBERTYCHICKEN said:
I am a massive fan of giveing plants all the room that they may need (I just grow directly in the ground)

But Tomato from seeds can have very, very different pheno's , Most tomato varitys are actualy clone , some are even clone on a graft

Okay smartass

All four planted the same time, same medium, same ferts, same lighting. It'd be unlikely that the only pheno that pops so well is the one potted-up a few days ago, considering it was e same size as the others till it was xplanted, wouldn't it now? Hmmm?

Still believe it's genetics?

Dribbles · Jan 2, 2014

That's only four days in that large pot too. The soil mix is different of course, has compost mixed it too, and worms, but the worms wouldn't have had enough time to even settle-in yet, let alone get shitting ferts.

LIBERTYCHICKEN · Jan 2, 2014

Dribbles said:
Okay smartass

All four planted the same time, same medium, same ferts, same lighting. It'd be unlikely that the only pheno that pops so well is the one potted-up a few days ago, considering it was e same size as the others till it was xplanted, wouldn't it now? Hmmm?

Still believe it's genetics?

I believe it is very possible , but in your case unlikely

Still their are to many variations in your experment to say for sure

twostrokenut · Jan 3, 2014

Brandywine?

Dribbles · Jan 3, 2014

They will be juicy, and at 7-8kg fruit per plant, I won't need to eat shitty gas-ripened, flavourless supermarket shite for weeks

Dribbles · Jan 3, 2014

LIBERTYCHICKEN said:
I believe it is very possible , but in your case unlikely

Still their are to many variations in your experment to say for sure

Well, I could've taken pics from anywhere online, too.

There could be a few extra bro-biotic bacteria in one pot or another, or an underground pest chewing the roots of three plants, or a bird on the roof might've stood and cast a shadow on those three - equally. There're always variations. Whether they're numerous enough to cause the stunting of 3 or the increased growth of the one is unlikely.

twostrokenut · Jan 3, 2014

You should try them in a hempy....did one this summer hempy vs dirt....hempy blew the dirt away.

Dribbles · Jan 3, 2014

A pot that size would cost $100 in perlite, and blow over once they got a few feet tall broe.

dannyboy602 · Jan 3, 2014

i could go for a nice tomato sandwich with salt and pepper.

CaretakerDad · Jan 3, 2014

Dribbles said:
That's only four days in that large pot too. The soil mix is different of course, has compost mixed it too, and worms, but the worms wouldn't have had enough time to even settle-in yet, let alone get shitting ferts.

Your "experiment" is not valid as the conditions were not the same (excluding genetic variation as previously mentioned). Transplanting into a different medium ^^^^^^ "The soil mix is different of course, has compost mixed it too, and worms" is likely the cause of the sudden growth spurt that you noticed not the larger pot. FYI I agree that potting into larger pots from the beginning is the best way to get vigorous vegetative growth in the long run. However the truth is that when you transplant, root development tends to take over the bulk of the energy for growth and vegetative growth is most often retarded until root growth has slowed again. The additional root mass and the capability to absorb more water and nutrients is what will eventually provide or bigger, better vegetative growth.

LIBERTYCHICKEN · Jan 3, 2014

Im just going to say lets agree to disagree

and, enjoy your harvest

twostrokenut · Jan 3, 2014

What size container is that? I did 5 gals ad ya it blew over lol perlite and verm.....that's how Iknew the rez was empty lol had to topdress with some stones to deal with valley wind.... think next year I'm going to use gravel or some sort of stone as the medium.

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