Tinnitus, Migraines, and other pain

abbynormal

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Hi all, I'm new here today, and pretty much new at even thinking about pot. But I am thinking about it as in an edible form (can't stand smoke) especially because conventional medicine is, imo, much, more harmful.

I want to ask a couple of questions as I did smoke some pot in highschool (yes, I inhaled, lol) but I preferred alcohol because pot/joints made me paranoid. I'm wanting to talk about edibles, especially some I actually have to try. They've been in my cupboard for a couple of weeks since my gal-friend bought a package, and gave me 2 to try. I'm scared to try them as I really don't know what they'll do.

I am 64 and a pretty clean system as I eat well, and walk a lot for exercise. I have DDD (degenerative disc disease), tinnitus (ringing in the ears, both) and migraine. I rarely have a migraine, but when I do they are pretty severe. I have the type that's called hemiplegic. I read something on this forum by GroErr and I hope he will see my post as he also has the Tinnitus which just about drove me crazy until I got to where I could handle it. Doctors have no cure for it, and I did hear GroErr say that he's been helped by Marijuana.

Anyway, I don't even know what type of marijuana I have in these gummies, but I'll try and find the article again. I read about them when I got home, but my friend has the bag w/description. She just popped two of the gummies in a baggy for me.

Feedback welcome but I would sure like some possibilities that I wouldn't freak out from chewing up maybe a small part of one of these, and maybe feeling ok, and having it improve my ears ringing, and also the pain from my back, shoulders especially, thanks in advance, for any help.
 

whitebb2727

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I have severe ringing of the ears and hearing loss. I use edibles and smoke.

I prefer sativas and hazes for it. Though indica may work. Indicas just don't jive with me sometimes.
 

lukio

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i find weed enhances my tinnitus - i vaporise instead of smoke it. I wonder if the edibles would be any different.

Good luck dude, hope you find some answers. i believe you're looking for @GroErr
 

abbynormal

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I don't know anything about they "types" of pot. All I know is you smoke it or eat it;)

So does your Tinnitus lessen after eating something with marijuana in it? If so, how long does the "good" effect on the tinnitus last? And which of your types of marijuana work best for you?

Thank you much for your reply, as I really want to explore the possibilities. One thing I would have trouble with is affording marijuana. That one package of gummies was 20 dollars and each gummy has 10 mg. I don't know if that a lot or not.
 

abbynormal

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i find weed enhances my tinnitus - i vaporise instead of smoke it. I wonder if the edibles would be any different.

Good luck dude, hope you find some answers. i believe you're looking for @GroErr
I'm hoping I don't have to do "anything" all day. I have another friend in Texas that takes just a couple of hits off her little pipe, a day, maybe less.

Oh and heaven knows I don't want this tinnitus any worse, I already have to drown it out sometimes with a "nature sound" app from my phone.
 

abbynormal

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I prefer capsules. They help with pretty much everything. Even Sun burns!
I cured my acid reflux/GERDS myself just by eating an apple every night before bed. The docs had me on that dang Prilosec which scared heck out of me when I looked it up online:( So I'm a believer in natural remedies. Just not familiar enough with how marijuana might make me feel. I don't like to feel out of control in anyway, although when I was in my 20s that's the only way I wanted to feel, lol;)

I'm a girl by the way;) A 64 year old girl, LOL!!
 

GroErr

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i find weed enhances my tinnitus - i vaporise instead of smoke it. I wonder if the edibles would be any different.

Good luck dude, hope you find some answers. i believe you're looking for @GroErr
Yeah I've had it for years, never stops, it's just in at different levels. I've been experimenting with CBD strains and the edibles in capsules using sift from CBD strains brings the level down. Smoking it works a bit but the edibles have had a consistent effect. I'm going to play with dosage to see if low dosage works. If I can pull a pheno like I just did which seems to be almost all CBD, it doesn't get you "high". In caps/edibles if you could take 25mg mainly CBD caps, you could take those anytime, even working or events where you can't be "high". It makes sense as it's supposed to have anti-inflammatory effects and tinnitus tends to be associated with hearing, nasal paths, or both.
 
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abbynormal

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Yeah I've had it for years, never stops, it's just in at different levels. I've been experimenting with CBD strains and the edibles in capsules using sift from CBD strains brings the level down. Smoking it works a bit but the edibles have had a consistent. I'm going to play with dosage to see if low dosage works. If I can pull a pheno like I just did which seems to be almost all CBD, it doesn't get you "high". In caps/edibles if you could take 25mg mainly CBD caps, you could take those anytime, even working or events where you can't be "high". It makes sense as it's supposed to have anti-inflammatory effects and tinnitus tends to be associated with hearing, nasal paths, or both.
My gut tells me it is definitely to do with my allergies which are pretty much year-round (all environmental allergies). Mine will let up once in awhile, and I mainly notice it's let up when I go to bed, pull out my book to read, and realize I can do that without my little noise app going. I can fall asleep etc. I've also been tossing around the idea of the Barometric pressure having something to do with mine as well. Someone mentioned that in another thread.

Would love to hear how your experiment goes and if you come up with something that wouldn't make me coocoo (which I am already, so that's probably why I could never do the pot thing back in the day). I forgot to mention that Hash was a whole other deal for me back then. Once in awhile, someone would have some at a party, and I always wanted to get in on that because it was a neat high, I really liked it and it (to me) was so different than the regular marijuana.

I will have to read up on the different strains you guys talk about, like the CBD. If anyone knows of some good material I could read, I'm willing to do that as well;) Oh, and the pain thing, I would like to know how and what to use as I see that getting worse already and I hate taking any sort of pain pill. Thanks for replying here GroErr.
 

GroErr

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My gut tells me it is definitely to do with my allergies which are pretty much year-round (all environmental allergies). Mine will let up once in awhile, and I mainly notice it's let up when I go to bed, pull out my book to read, and realize I can do that without my little noise app going. I can fall asleep etc. I've also been tossing around the idea of the Barometric pressure having something to do with mine as well. Someone mentioned that in another thread.

Would love to hear how your experiment goes and if you come up with something that wouldn't make me coocoo (which I am already, so that's probably why I could never do the pot thing back in the day). I forgot to mention that Hash was a whole other deal for me back then. Once in awhile, someone would have some at a party, and I always wanted to get in on that because it was a neat high, I really liked it and it (to me) was so different than the regular marijuana.

I will have to read up on the different strains you guys talk about, like the CBD. If anyone knows of some good material I could read, I'm willing to do that as well;) Oh, and the pain thing, I would like to know how and what to use as I see that getting worse already and I hate taking any sort of pain pill. Thanks for replying here GroErr.
Yeah you should consider trying to make some edibles. I like the caps, I use all my trim, popcorn, and a lot of bud since I eat more than I smoke. Make dry sift from that, then mix it and cook it with coconut oil to put into capsules. I use mixed strains for pain, sleeping pills, different dosages for different purposes like my GF doesn't like getting high, but a 20mg pill acts as a sleeping pill for her after a couple of hours. Now trying separate CBD strains/phenos to see if I can make some pills to look after migraines and the tinnitus. I consider the CBD strains strictly medicine and more suitable for edibles than smoking. If you grow or know someone that grows PM me on the CBD strains, Lots of threads in here if you do a search for CBD you'll find quite a bit of reading. There's a lot of hype around CBD, I'm not so sure its the miracle drug some make it out to be but I think it has its place for some applications. Overall for certain things like cancer I believe a mix of multiple strains is more likely to help, it's how I've treated mine. Every strain has like a cannabinoid profile and different types and levels. When you mix strains you're getting a wider profile and more/different levels of cannabinoids that are more likely to help with things like cancer.

I've posted this recipe I use for the coconut oil caps quite a few times. it's easy, just requires sift. I tried flower but the sift is more effective, potent, and makes dosage more consistent. This is what the sift and resulting pills look like. I just re-filled my own prescription ;)

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GroErr

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My gut tells me it is definitely to do with my allergies which are pretty much year-round (all environmental allergies). Mine will let up once in awhile, and I mainly notice it's let up when I go to bed, pull out my book to read, and realize I can do that without my little noise app going. I can fall asleep etc. I've also been tossing around the idea of the Barometric pressure having something to do with mine as well. Someone mentioned that in another thread.

Would love to hear how your experiment goes and if you come up with something that wouldn't make me coocoo (which I am already, so that's probably why I could never do the pot thing back in the day). I forgot to mention that Hash was a whole other deal for me back then. Once in awhile, someone would have some at a party, and I always wanted to get in on that because it was a neat high, I really liked it and it (to me) was so different than the regular marijuana.

I will have to read up on the different strains you guys talk about, like the CBD. If anyone knows of some good material I could read, I'm willing to do that as well;) Oh, and the pain thing, I would like to know how and what to use as I see that getting worse already and I hate taking any sort of pain pill. Thanks for replying here GroErr.
I forgot to mention that may have been me that posted something around barometric pressure. That's definitely a trigger for my tinnitus, also my migraines. I tracked mine to the point where any change up or down of 1/2 a point will trigger one or both. I'm a walking barometer #$%! The other thing I noticed is when I get sick the volume for my tinnitus goes up, which again makes some sense since the ringing is a result of issues in your nasal and ear canals.
 

Lord Kanti

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I cured my acid reflux/GERDS myself just by eating an apple every night before bed. The docs had me on that dang Prilosec which scared heck out of me when I looked it up online:( So I'm a believer in natural remedies. Just not familiar enough with how marijuana might make me feel. I don't like to feel out of control in anyway, although when I was in my 20s that's the only way I wanted to feel, lol;)

I'm a girl by the way;) A 64 year old girl, LOL!!
> I'm a girl by the way

Sounds like a pickup line at a noisy bar. ;)
 

GroErr

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Thanks @GroErr great info, think i'll grab a cbd strain and give it a go. Which seed banks do you recommend for cbd?
Cheers lukio, always happy to share whatever I can. Unfortunately with CBD strains you have to search around and hunt for CBD rich strains. I don't have any recommendations in seed form other than Harlequin which is what I started with. Since then I've been working a cross called Blue Harley to find what I want, low/mid/high CBD phenos is the end goal. PM if you're interested in trying the latest iteration of that one.

Problem with CBD strains from what I've seen is the seed banks and some breeders claim this ratio or that ratio of CBD:THC. If anyone's grown for regular seeds, you know there will be variation. And some variations in phenos are easy to pick out like height/stretch, smells/taste. CBD isn't that easy unless you can test it or trust that phenos with low THC won't be as punchy. My method will take a while to lock down but as I find worthy phenos I'll be back-crossing to IBL them, and likely S1 (self) the verified/tested and stabilized phenos. I have that option now to get testing done so I'll be testing phenos that I like before crossing them on. With the amount and rate I'm seeing so-called CBD strains in seed form popping up, only way to get there that fast is S1's, which are fine but if the line isn't first stabilized (which can take many months, even commercially with tons of space/resources). you're likely to end up with an unstable pheno or more out of a pack.

Depending on where you are, in the US there's a strain called Frank's Gift which is clone-only and validated to be a high, almost all CBD strain. Getting a hold of that could save you months of searching/hunting phenos if you grab a legit cut. It originated in Oregon but has spread across the country. Another one to check out was Doc (Docs Seeds) was working one of the FG clones but haven't seen or heard much on it for a few months.
 

Lord Kanti

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Yeah you should consider trying to make some edibles. I like the caps, I use all my trim, popcorn, and a lot of bud since I eat more than I smoke. Make dry sift from that, then mix it and cook it with coconut oil to put into capsules. I use mixed strains for pain, sleeping pills, different dosages for different purposes like my GF doesn't like getting high, but a 20mg pill acts as a sleeping pill for her after a couple of hours. Now trying separate CBD strains/phenos to see if I can make some pills to look after migraines and the tinnitus. I consider the CBD strains strictly medicine and more suitable for edibles than smoking. If you grow or know someone that grows PM me on the CBD strains, Lots of threads in here if you do a search for CBD you'll find quite a bit of reading. There's a lot of hype around CBD, I'm not so sure its the miracle drug some make it out to be but I think it has its place for some applications. Overall for certain things like cancer I believe a mix of multiple strains is more likely to help, it's how I've treated mine. Every strain has like a cannabinoid profile and different types and levels. When you mix strains you're getting a wider profile and more/different levels of cannabinoids that are more likely to help with things like cancer.

I've posted this recipe I use for the coconut oil caps quite a few times. it's easy, just requires sift. I tried flower but the sift is more effective, potent, and makes dosage more consistent. This is what the sift and resulting pills look like. I just re-filled my own prescription ;)

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Are you me? Cool stuff, I too make my own capsules. I find it's the best way to dial in a dosage, plus no smoking. I blend 3 strains @ 75mg plus my secret recipe for the carrier. I'm currently setting up to make caps with single strains to compare effects.

My advice for others: label everything. Write your steps down also. If you find a winner and you didn't leave yourself a map you'll have to start over and resent yourself.
 

GroErr

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Are you me? Cool stuff, I too make my own capsules. I find it's the best way to dial in a dosage, plus no smoking. I blend 3 strains @ 75mg plus my secret recipe for the carrier. I'm currently setting up to make caps with single strains to compare effects.

My advice for others: label everything. Write your steps down also. If you find a winner and you didn't leave yourself a map you'll have to start over and resent yourself.
Lol, I love the caps, good advice there, document everything you do for reference or it never happened! There hasn't been a lot of true research done so I use myself and a few close friends who don't mind the side effects as test subjects ;)
 

MKGROW

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Depending on where you are, in the US there's a strain called Frank's Gift which is clone-only and validated to be a high, almost all CBD strain. Getting a hold of that could save you months of searching/hunting phenos if you grab a legit cut. It originated in Oregon but has spread across the country. Another one to check out was Doc (Docs Seeds) was working one of the FG clones but haven't seen or heard much on it for a few months.
There is hope on the Franks Gift .. I I can't find it right now (on my phone)but I watched a YouTube vid from Kevin jordey wonderland nursery he was running a test pack of seeds he got. So someone is working on it. I'll search for the vid later and post it.

Mahalo
 

lukio

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@GroErr im unfortunately in the UK bro, no chance im nabbing those cuts, boooo! (: i'll do some digging, see what i can find over here. The whole CBD thing is something i should look at more anyways.

thanks again :leaf:
 

GroErr

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There is hope on the Franks Gift .. I I can't find it right now (on my phone)but I watched a YouTube vid from Kevin jordey wonderland nursery he was running a test pack of seeds he got. So someone is working on it. I'll search for the vid later and post it.

Mahalo
Yeah there's enough cuts of the FG clone-only that there's bound to be some S1's or crosses with it around. The clone would be great just from a time saving perspective.
 

GroErr

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@GroErr im unfortunately in the UK bro, no chance im nabbing those cuts, boooo! (: i'll do some digging, see what i can find over here. The whole CBD thing is something i should look at more anyways.

thanks again :leaf:
Good luck, if you're stuck PM, a seed fairy I know fairy has been known to successfully drop in the UK and a few other continents ;)
 
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