Thye "Devil" speaks

medicineman

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Reuters News Service DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Following is the text of a videotaped statement made by Saudi-born dissident Osama bin Laden and broadcast on Qatar-based al-Jazeera television today. It has been translated from Arabic:

"Here is America struck by God Almighty in one of its vital organs, so that its greatest buildings are destroyed. Grace and gratitude to God. America has been filled with horror from north to south and east to west, and thanks be to God that what America is tasting now is only a copy of we have tasted.
"Our Islamic nation has been tasting the same for more 80 years, of humiliation and disgrace, its sons killed and their blood spilled, its sanctities desecrated.
"God has blessed a group of vanguard Muslims, the forefront of Islam, to destroy America. May God bless them and allot them a supreme place in heaven, for He is the only one capable and entitled to do so. When those have stood in defence of their weak children, their brothers and sisters in Palestine and other Muslim nations, the whole world went into an uproar, the infidels followed by the hypocrites.
"A million innocent children are dying at this time as we speak, killed in Iraq without any guilt. We hear no denunciation, we hear no edict from the hereditary rulers. In these days, Israeli tanks rampage across Palestine, in Ramallah, Rafah and Beit Jala and many other parts of the land of Islam, and we do not hear anyone raising his voice or reacting. But when the sword fell upon America after 80 years, hypocrisy raised its head up high bemoaning those killers who toyed with the blood, honour and sanctities of Muslims.
"The least that can be said about those hypocrites is that they are apostates who followed the wrong path. They backed the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. I seek refuge in God against them and ask Him to let us see them in what they deserve.
"I say that the matter is very clear. Every Muslim after this event (should fight for their religion), after the senior officials in the United States of America starting with the head of international infidels, (U.S. President George W.) Bush and his staff who went on a display of vanity with their men and horses, those who turned even the countries that believe in Islam against us -- the group that resorted to God, the Almighty, the group that refuses to be subdued in its religion.
"They (America) have been telling the world falsehoods that they are fighting terrorism. In a nation at the far end of the world, Japan, hundreds of thousands, young and old, were killed and (they say) this is not a world crime. To them it is not a clear issue. A million children (were killed) in Iraq, to them this is not a clear issue.
"But when a few more than 10 were killed in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, Afghanistan and Iraq were bombed and hypocrisy stood behind the head of international infidels, the modern world's symbol of paganism, America, and its allies.
"I tell them that these events have divided the world into two camps, the camp of the faithful and the camp of infidels. May God shield us and you from them.
"Every Muslim must rise to defend his religion. The wind of faith is blowing and the wind of change is blowing to remove evil from the Peninsula of Mohammad, peace be upon him.
"As to America, I say to it and its people a few words: I swear to God that America will not live in peace before peace reigns in Palestine, and before all the army of infidels depart the land of Mohammad, peace be upon him. "God is the Greatest and glory be to Islam."




Sometimes you must listen to your enemies, ever wonder why with a 50,000,000 dollar price on his head no-one will turn him over?
 

pandabear

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Reuters News Service DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Following is the text of a videotaped statement made by Saudi-born dissident Osama bin Laden and broadcast on Qatar-based al-Jazeera television today. It has been translated from Arabic:

"Here is America struck by God Almighty in one of its vital organs, so that its greatest buildings are destroyed. Grace and gratitude to God. America has been filled with horror from north to south and east to west, and thanks be to God that what America is tasting now is only a copy of we have tasted.
"Our Islamic nation has been tasting the same for more 80 years, of humiliation and disgrace, its sons killed and their blood spilled, its sanctities desecrated.
"God has blessed a group of vanguard Muslims, the forefront of Islam, to destroy America. May God bless them and allot them a supreme place in heaven, for He is the only one capable and entitled to do so. When those have stood in defence of their weak children, their brothers and sisters in Palestine and other Muslim nations, the whole world went into an uproar, the infidels followed by the hypocrites.
"A million innocent children are dying at this time as we speak, killed in Iraq without any guilt. We hear no denunciation, we hear no edict from the hereditary rulers. In these days, Israeli tanks rampage across Palestine, in Ramallah, Rafah and Beit Jala and many other parts of the land of Islam, and we do not hear anyone raising his voice or reacting. But when the sword fell upon America after 80 years, hypocrisy raised its head up high bemoaning those killers who toyed with the blood, honour and sanctities of Muslims.
"The least that can be said about those hypocrites is that they are apostates who followed the wrong path. They backed the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. I seek refuge in God against them and ask Him to let us see them in what they deserve.
"I say that the matter is very clear. Every Muslim after this event (should fight for their religion), after the senior officials in the United States of America starting with the head of international infidels, (U.S. President George W.) Bush and his staff who went on a display of vanity with their men and horses, those who turned even the countries that believe in Islam against us -- the group that resorted to God, the Almighty, the group that refuses to be subdued in its religion.
"They (America) have been telling the world falsehoods that they are fighting terrorism. In a nation at the far end of the world, Japan, hundreds of thousands, young and old, were killed and (they say) this is not a world crime. To them it is not a clear issue. A million children (were killed) in Iraq, to them this is not a clear issue.
"But when a few more than 10 were killed in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, Afghanistan and Iraq were bombed and hypocrisy stood behind the head of international infidels, the modern world's symbol of paganism, America, and its allies.
"I tell them that these events have divided the world into two camps, the camp of the faithful and the camp of infidels. May God shield us and you from them.
"Every Muslim must rise to defend his religion. The wind of faith is blowing and the wind of change is blowing to remove evil from the Peninsula of Mohammad, peace be upon him.
"As to America, I say to it and its people a few words: I swear to God that America will not live in peace before peace reigns in Palestine, and before all the army of infidels depart the land of Mohammad, peace be upon him. "God is the Greatest and glory be to Islam."




Sometimes you must listen to your enemies, ever wonder why with a 50,000,000 dollar price on his head no-one will turn him over?

there are many reasons no one turns him over.

1) a very very few amount of people know where he is and they are with him in hiding, they are his elite body gaurds.

2) they would never trust the USA as they are all terorrists and think the USA would just arrest everyone

3) they fear him and his cronies

You sound like you admire the man medi, btw thanks for the rep I wasnt sure if you would do it.

we both gave each other rep which establishs that we are freinds despite our bantering.:-P

but jeez that poor Vi hes been on here all these years by himself lol seems he was really out numbered:-P
 

UncleSunny

Well-Known Member
Sorry, but I think the nutty terrorist has a point.
Seriously, if Palstinian tanks were rolling down your street, if your church was taken over and replaced with a falafal restaurant, if they were here to plunder our nations resources and impliment their faith in your neighborhood, this guy would be considered an American Hero.

Let me say this. Osama Bin Laden is a killer and a madman. His ideas are based in hate and fundamentalism. This is true and I won't argue. Unfortunately, my friends and other young American Men and Women have been sent across the planet to stop him, and no matter what the ultimate Right or Wrong involved, I pray that each and every one of those Americans comes home safely.
What we have to consider is that these people were once allies with America. Those are our guns that they use to shoot at us. It wasn't until politics changed and America turned on the Taliban that they started reacting to us.
This past Summer, Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. John Walters, said that pot growers were "'violent Criminal Terrorist' who wouldn't hesitate to help other terrorists get into America with the aim of causing mass casualities."

This is what they think of us. We have been called Terrorists, and we are defined alongside America's most passionate enemies. Yes, Bin Laden flew planes into our buildings and killed innocent people. But before we go hating our enemy, we should just stop and see how these extremists were made. What the Taliban did to us was horrible, but your government equates what they did to what you are doing. How long until they swtich the focus to finding terrorists in the Middle East, and seek out the "terrorists" living here in America?
When they destroy your property, put you in jail without rights, and seperate you from your family, you might not think Osama's all that bad of a fellow after all.
 

pandabear

Well-Known Member
man this site is awash in people willing to forgo national security because they are mad that pot is illigal, a lot of people on here have a persistant hatred of the police.

I think the police are great people. Sure theres assholes out there but hey most cops are pretty cool, i been let off on 3 DUI's by cool cops, thats right 3, also I got arrested with a quarter bag once and the cop that was supposed to take me to the jail decided to take me home instead.:-P

I say the smartest thing we can do for the cause is embrace the police and put them on our side, I know many are already doing this and big ups to those people.


as far as the palistinian thing, I am a palistinian refugee myself and the fact is that shit went down 50 years ago, we lost, isreal is not going to leave, the surrounding arab countries perpetuate the misery of the palistinian people while facist, racist and murderist muslim extreamists use them also. to put a shroud over what they really care about, and trust me it has nothing to do with the palistinian people. if you want proof look at all the iraqis the facists are killing and raping. dont belive what this guy says man, dont blame america first cuz thats what you are doing.

they want to killl you for having sex, they will not allow you to smoke a cigeret, they will stone your 17 year old daughter to death for liking a boy, and they will punish you brutally if they catch you with a photo or a music tape. they will kill beat and oppress your mothers, daughters and wives

and also never forget, for you to sit here and say its messed up what they did to the palistinians, i am one and look at me , what if I said that and I was sitting right here in the US of A were only the dead indians used to lay from when we took thier land. would I be a hypocrit?

are you being one? is it fair for a american indian to come blow you up even if you had nothing to do with westward expansion and the iradicating of the indians?

lastly, why arnt the indians bombing us all pissed of.

you wanna know why,

cuz they are all mostly dead.

i want my people to grow, not die. my theory always has been, we the palistinians should do so much fucking with israli women that we all become entanged into one people with a melting pot mentality, unfortuntly isreal will renouce the citizenship of any woman or man that marries a palistinian.

I guess they are on to us:bigjoint::hump:
 

UncleSunny

Well-Known Member
man this site is awash in people willing to forgo national security because they are mad that pot is illigal, a lot of people on here have a persistant hatred of the police...

Yo. I think that you are missing some of the point. I personally am not willing to forgo national security because of Marijuana. I AM willing to sacrifice my personal safety if it means keeping the Freedom of this country alive. You say that you are Palastinian...I spent a good deal of time tutoring Middle Easterners who were attempting to pass their citizenship tests. I have heard many first hand accounts of the situation there, I know how brutal these nuts can be.
My point is that if we in the Western world want to maintain our status quo, so that that refugees from these nuts have a place to go in the world where they can escape to. The simple fact is that unless we maintain some liberties in a time of crisis, we can lose them forever.
Forgive me for saying this, I do not condone this at all in any way, but as a forign born, especially one of Middle Eastern descent, you are lucky that you are allowed here. There are many people in the Western world that would gladly see you and every other dark skinned person shipped off and sent right back where they came from. For all the hate that you say that exists in the land you come from, don't forget that the same hate sleeps right here, and if it were not for constant protesting of our rights to liberty, it would be as open and brutal as it is back in Afganistan, and there is no way someone from your part of the world could ever get in.

Once again, for those not reading carefully, I don't agree with xenophobic fear and closed borders. That is based in fear. So is blindly following a leader because his enemy is my enemy.
However, screwing our way to a peaceful world is an idea that sounds great. If we all just have sex with one another, maybe things wouldn't be so bad.

 

medicineman

New Member
there are many reasons no one turns him over.

1) a very very few amount of people know where he is and they are with him in hiding, they are his elite body gaurds.

2) they would never trust the USA as they are all terorrists and think the USA would just arrest everyone

3) they fear him and his cronies

You sound like you admire the man medi, btw thanks for the rep I wasnt sure if you would do it.

we both gave each other rep which establishs that we are freinds despite our bantering.:-P

but jeez that poor Vi hes been on here all these years by himself lol seems he was really out numbered:-P
Vi is a strange duck. He makes a ton of money pushing real estate and believes it is all his to keep. He's the kind of kid that never let anyone play with his toys, ~LOL~ kind of a selfish dork.
 

ViRedd

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Vi is a strange duck. He makes a ton of money pushing real estate and believes it is all his to keep. He's the kind of kid that never let anyone play with his toys, ~LOL~ kind of a selfish dork.
Well at least you don't have me on ignore and discuss my finances behind my back. I'll give ya that much, Med.

As far as me "making a ton of money," in my business, one makes exactly what one is worth to his/her clients and customers. Nothing more and nothing less. I would venture to say that only about 10% of the adult population could make it in my business and 80% of that 10% would only eke out a living.

The other 90% of the population THINK they know what the business is about, but they have nary a clue. I'd put you in that 90% catagory, Med.

Vi
 

medicineman

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Well at least you don't have me on ignore and discuss my finances behind my back. I'll give ya that much, Med.

As far as me "making a ton of money," in my business, one makes exactly what one is worth to his/her clients and customers. Nothing more and nothing less. I would venture to say that only about 10% of the adult population could make it in my business and 80% of that 10% would only eke out a living.

The other 90% of the population THINK they know what the business is about, but they have nary a clue. I'd put you in that 90% catagory, Med.

Vi
Could be, I never claimed to be a real estate mogul, I just know a crook when I see one. I suppose since you are so smart, you could hop in an 85 thousand lb. concrete mixer and back down a 30% grade on a bias without rolling the truck, deliver the load without spilling a drop and do 4-5 loads in an 8 hr day, just your typical no-brainer kind of job, right. You have your head stuck so far up your own ass trying to tell the world what a smart, hard working guy you are, that you alienate 90% of the population with your attitude. I personaly know a couple of real estate agents that make a decent living without making it all about themselves, heck, one of them is a really nice guy, the other is allright, but he is also filled with his self importance, just not quite as much as you. Just like me and millions of others, when you pass from this earth, the earth will just be just like it was the day before we left. You are no-one special.
 

medicineman

New Member
Gee, thanks for the compliments Med. Do you ever have a nice day?

Vi
You never answer my posts with anything but a question. That in itself puts you in the asshole category. Now as for the nice day thing, let me think, well, there was a day back in 1957 when a beautiful girl named Ellen gave me her innocence, boy, that was a day. There was a day in 1965 when my first child was born. There were a few days in the 70s when Peyote showed me the way, and quite a few more I've forgotten. Most of my days are just ordinary days, some better than others.
 
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