ilikecheetoes
Well-Known Member
I've spent the last couple days reading up on DIY neuts. Fatman thread and many more sources on this site and others. This thread is to sort of organize my thoughts and get some input from others.
I'm going back and forth on it.
Pros-
its DIY, i like that.
you arent paying 500% markup on what amounts to salts.
You arent supporting neut companies that buy from DOW which with monsanto are trying to kill us from the inside.
infinite adjustablilty
did I mention not paying shitloads for stuff that costs pennies.
commercial growers dont spend 1000's for watered down ferts
Pot is not a magic plant that needs a wand to grow. its a fucking weed people.
Cons-
You have to be damn accurate with your measuring in the initial mixing
you have to order supplies that are on homeland security watch lists although admittedly not in quantities that "should" be suspicious.
you still have to buy the chemicals and its hard not to get them from dow anyway
is it really as good? I know N=N=N ad infinitum but they add stuff to those bottles that they dont tell you about for state/federal labeling regulations.
other thoughts
what about additives? the base neuts I can see. Even the shooting powder type products that are basically just high P can be done DIY.
what about the others though? For example Top Booster by H&G. Supposedly its some mix of hormones that make the plant absolutely stop veging and do all bud making. Can that be reproduced DIY? They dont label those products so how do you really know what it is to try to copy it?
How about the humic acid additives like Nuts or Diamond Nector?
Root excelurator/jump start? more hormones and B1
Amino Acids?
Commercial growers can exchange yield per plant with more plants. You can always just plant more to make up for not having the 100% best environment and neuts possible.
MJ growers dont generally have that luxury. Not only do we have the cost of neuts but also the lights and air conditioning etc. So it costs a shit load to grow what we do in small spaces so we really NEED 100% efficiency.
Base neuts from the shop arent usually the expensive part. Its all the additives. So I wonder if its even worth DIYing the main neuts if you are going to shell out all the cash for the additives anyway.
Or do we go 100% diy and dont use the additives because they are all snakeoil anyway? fatman and from what i can tell UB (i dont mean to put words in anybody's mouth) dont use additives.
anyway those are my first thoughts. what do you think?
I'm going back and forth on it.
Pros-
its DIY, i like that.
you arent paying 500% markup on what amounts to salts.
You arent supporting neut companies that buy from DOW which with monsanto are trying to kill us from the inside.
infinite adjustablilty
did I mention not paying shitloads for stuff that costs pennies.
commercial growers dont spend 1000's for watered down ferts
Pot is not a magic plant that needs a wand to grow. its a fucking weed people.
Cons-
You have to be damn accurate with your measuring in the initial mixing
you have to order supplies that are on homeland security watch lists although admittedly not in quantities that "should" be suspicious.
you still have to buy the chemicals and its hard not to get them from dow anyway
is it really as good? I know N=N=N ad infinitum but they add stuff to those bottles that they dont tell you about for state/federal labeling regulations.
other thoughts
what about additives? the base neuts I can see. Even the shooting powder type products that are basically just high P can be done DIY.
what about the others though? For example Top Booster by H&G. Supposedly its some mix of hormones that make the plant absolutely stop veging and do all bud making. Can that be reproduced DIY? They dont label those products so how do you really know what it is to try to copy it?
How about the humic acid additives like Nuts or Diamond Nector?
Root excelurator/jump start? more hormones and B1
Amino Acids?
Commercial growers can exchange yield per plant with more plants. You can always just plant more to make up for not having the 100% best environment and neuts possible.
MJ growers dont generally have that luxury. Not only do we have the cost of neuts but also the lights and air conditioning etc. So it costs a shit load to grow what we do in small spaces so we really NEED 100% efficiency.
Base neuts from the shop arent usually the expensive part. Its all the additives. So I wonder if its even worth DIYing the main neuts if you are going to shell out all the cash for the additives anyway.
Or do we go 100% diy and dont use the additives because they are all snakeoil anyway? fatman and from what i can tell UB (i dont mean to put words in anybody's mouth) dont use additives.
anyway those are my first thoughts. what do you think?