There is no pipeline, schools ARE Prisons

Rob Roy

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An article by Ryan Calhoun.

Deal with it....

We are told there is a pipeline in the United States that travels from our school system to our criminal justice system. Correct as the data corroborating the pipeline’s existence may be, it is a flawed way of conceptualizing the issue. There is no pipeline out of schools and into prisons, because schools and prisons in this country are not conceptually separable. (emphasis added)

Every child is mandated to receive an education with the threat of reprisal by the judicial system if they fail to. Children are thus coerced into attending a learning center, almost none of which adequately meet the educational needs of children. Some opt for public school “alternatives” like homeschooling or private schools, but the model of education is still generally the same and attendance is vigorously enforced. Through forced schooling, children are largely deprived of the ability to engage with the world and learn by means of play. They must cease the process of seeking fulfillment of genuine desires and begin one of alienation from their natural curiosity.

The consequences are shockingly apparent in a case out of Columbia, South Carolina where a police officer at a public high school physically manhandled a young black girl. The scene: A female student sits passively in her chair while the officer demands she stand. The lead-up to the incident is irrelevant. Insubordination to authority in schools is an inevitability for any child with a mind and drive of her own. For having such a mind and drive of her own (“resisting” in law enforcement-speak) the student was grabbed by the neck, slammed to the ground and dragged across the classroom, all while still partially connected to her desk.

Once again, this is not abnormal behavior. Disobedience is something youth do well and often. The response to disobedience, insubordination, and general independent-streaks at any school usually boils down to authoritative command and punishment. Physical assault on children is not legal in all schools, but it is in 19 states. Each year, over 800 children are assaulted legally and as a matter of policy at their schools. In South Carolina, it is legal to handcuff students for simply being loud.

In addition to the female assault victim in the South Carolina incident, the classmate who filmed the shocking video was also later arrested and held on bail. She was kidnapped for filming what was, by any reasonable standard, child abuse. Why was this allowed to happen? Her charge was “Disturbing school.” Please allow this to fully register. Non-violent, peaceful actions by children are construed as attacks on the supposed civility of school.

This officer’s assault is not an aberration; it is how schools treat students. They have no freedom to leave. Anyone who escapes is treated as a fugitive. They are permitted to go home, but this does not change the striking similarities between prisons and schools. It is now regular for schools to have guards — some are cops hired out and some are the schools’ own security staff. Students are filed along corridors and into rooms in such a way as to surveil and control their flow of activity.

People of color are far more likely to find themselves physically assaulted by staff in schools. They are more likely to receive punishment than their white counterparts for the same behavior, and as a result, they begin to recognize the system’s perception of them as marked criminals. Eventually, many are sent to even more coercive penal environments, where the violence and authoritarianism from the administration only escalates. Many students are lucky enough to avoid the transition from educational to criminal detention centers. But far too many either aren’t able to successfully navigate the educational-police state, or have the deck stacked against them from the outset. Their fate is a sad and unnecessary one.

There is no pipeline from school to prison. Some are just forced to stay in class.
 
when i was in "prison", not only did i learn what i needed to know to continue my "imprisonment" toward the college phase, but i also got to leave whenever i wanted to go play some golf.

i would also get very high in "prison" and eat lots of munchies from the vending machines or food court.

it was really a tough "prison".

inb4 school is rape but pedophilia is not.
 
An article by Ryan Calhoun.

Deal with it....

We are told there is a pipeline in the United States that travels from our school system to our criminal justice system. Correct as the data corroborating the pipeline’s existence may be, it is a flawed way of conceptualizing the issue. There is no pipeline out of schools and into prisons, because schools and prisons in this country are not conceptually separable. (emphasis added)

Every child is mandated to receive an education with the threat of reprisal by the judicial system if they fail to. Children are thus coerced into attending a learning center, almost none of which adequately meet the educational needs of children. Some opt for public school “alternatives” like homeschooling or private schools, but the model of education is still generally the same and attendance is vigorously enforced. Through forced schooling, children are largely deprived of the ability to engage with the world and learn by means of play. They must cease the process of seeking fulfillment of genuine desires and begin one of alienation from their natural curiosity.

The consequences are shockingly apparent in a case out of Columbia, South Carolina where a police officer at a public high school physically manhandled a young black girl. The scene: A female student sits passively in her chair while the officer demands she stand. The lead-up to the incident is irrelevant. Insubordination to authority in schools is an inevitability for any child with a mind and drive of her own. For having such a mind and drive of her own (“resisting” in law enforcement-speak) the student was grabbed by the neck, slammed to the ground and dragged across the classroom, all while still partially connected to her desk.

Once again, this is not abnormal behavior. Disobedience is something youth do well and often. The response to disobedience, insubordination, and general independent-streaks at any school usually boils down to authoritative command and punishment. Physical assault on children is not legal in all schools, but it is in 19 states. Each year, over 800 children are assaulted legally and as a matter of policy at their schools. In South Carolina, it is legal to handcuff students for simply being loud.

In addition to the female assault victim in the South Carolina incident, the classmate who filmed the shocking video was also later arrested and held on bail. She was kidnapped for filming what was, by any reasonable standard, child abuse. Why was this allowed to happen? Her charge was “Disturbing school.” Please allow this to fully register. Non-violent, peaceful actions by children are construed as attacks on the supposed civility of school.

This officer’s assault is not an aberration; it is how schools treat students. They have no freedom to leave. Anyone who escapes is treated as a fugitive. They are permitted to go home, but this does not change the striking similarities between prisons and schools. It is now regular for schools to have guards — some are cops hired out and some are the schools’ own security staff. Students are filed along corridors and into rooms in such a way as to surveil and control their flow of activity.

People of color are far more likely to find themselves physically assaulted by staff in schools. They are more likely to receive punishment than their white counterparts for the same behavior, and as a result, they begin to recognize the system’s perception of them as marked criminals. Eventually, many are sent to even more coercive penal environments, where the violence and authoritarianism from the administration only escalates. Many students are lucky enough to avoid the transition from educational to criminal detention centers. But far too many either aren’t able to successfully navigate the educational-police state, or have the deck stacked against them from the outset. Their fate is a sad and unnecessary one.

There is no pipeline from school to prison. Some are just forced to stay in class.


Bring this Ryan guy to me here, I`ll send him home to you.

Does he know that there are only 108+/- days of 365 days spent in school ? No play time......Really.
 
when i was in "prison", not only did i learn what i needed to know to continue my "imprisonment" toward the college phase, but i also got to leave whenever i wanted to go play some golf.

i would also get very high in "prison" and eat lots of munchies from the vending machines or food court.

it was really a tough "prison".

inb4 school is rape but pedophilia is not.




Your wretched assessment attempts to say because you liked the idea of being forced to do something which was funded thru coercion, that it must be good for everyone else too. However, if it were that good, it wouldn't have to be forcibly funded would it, dolt?

Also your inb4 comment, is silly and a poor example which bolsters my point. Pedophilia (sex between parties where one party has not or cannot consent) and being made to pay for something without your consent are similar in that, force, rather than consent is the common denominator.

Please don't tell me you also shit on the food court bathroom floor.
 
Bring this Ryan guy to me here, I`ll send him home to you.

Does he know that there are only 108+/- days of 365 days spent in school ? No play time......Really.


If the childrens prisons give the kids time off, why are teachers and fat administrators paid an extorted salary year round?
 
The only thing I didn't like was the feeling while exiting high school, that I only had but one choice and that was to go to college. Can't be anything without a college degree? Fuck I would of been nothing if I had taken that route.

I had a choice, but what my options were I was clueless. No one told me I could borrow just a handful of books for free from the library and teach myself a trade, or buy a couple cheap instructional vhs tapes. That took weeks and cost hundreds, not years and tens of thousands of dollars.

I've learned shit from youtube that we offer as a service for our customers. Didn't have to pay anyone a dime for that knowledge.

College isn't for everyone, and I think more than half in college right now dont belong there.
 
If the childrens prisons give the kids time off, why are teachers and fat administrators paid an extorted salary year round?


If everyone home schooled heir kids, then everyone`s kids would still have to meet State requirements. That involves getting tested and graded. Parents would teach at different levels, times, and even locations but when it comes time for testing, they better be ready or it falls on the parent who may not have time to teach because they got to bring up the family.

When teaching the kids, it`s no secret that they learn differently. Now when you gather them, separate them by age/grade levels, and teach them accordingly, you have so many more advantages to use than at home schooling. Kids help kids understand and learn better than adults can. Schools are prepared and have the equipment to do more for education than blocks of home schooling.

One day you will have a kid, then you will know why it`s suicide to have 25+ in a classroom to teach, at that time you`ll understand how teachers are underpaid. There are always the exceptional employee in it for other things, but for the most part, you gotta have big gigantic one`s to teach in a school of K-6.
 
If everyone home schooled heir kids, then everyone`s kids would still have to meet State requirements. That involves getting tested and graded. Parents would teach at different levels, times, and even locations but when it comes time for testing, they better be ready or it falls on the parent who may not have time to teach because they got to bring up the family.

When teaching the kids, it`s no secret that they learn differently. Now when you gather them, separate them by age/grade levels, and teach them accordingly, you have so many more advantages to use than at home schooling. Kids help kids understand and learn better than adults can. Schools are prepared and have the equipment to do more for education than blocks of home schooling.

One day you will have a kid, then you will know why it`s suicide to have 25+ in a classroom to teach, at that time you`ll understand how teachers are underpaid. There are always the exceptional employee in it for other things, but for the most part, you gotta have big gigantic one`s to teach in a school of K-6.



I'm a grandfather....grasshopper.
 
Then what the hell did you ask a stupid question like that for ? Made me write all that shit and you already know.


Your answer is erratic and careening about.

I made you write it to demonstrate the mind control I hold over you...now go make me a sandwich and find my fucking lighter for me.
 
The only thing I didn't like was the feeling while exiting high school, that I only had but one choice and that was to go to college. Can't be anything without a college degree? Fuck I would of been nothing if I had taken that route.

I had a choice, but what my options were I was clueless. No one told me I could borrow just a handful of books for free from the library and teach myself a trade, or buy a couple cheap instructional vhs tapes. That took weeks and cost hundreds, not years and tens of thousands of dollars.

I've learned shit from youtube that we offer as a service for our customers. Didn't have to pay anyone a dime for that knowledge.

College isn't for everyone, and I think more than half in college right now dont belong there.
Agreed 100% I tried college did not like it nor did it teach me 1 thing i needed to know in real life. I am ADD like a sob.
 
Your answer is erratic and careening about.

I made you write it to demonstrate the mind control I hold over you...now go make me a sandwich and find my fucking lighter for me.


Since I`m outta my mind and you are trying to control something that`s not there,...One, Ham & Egger coming up with special sauce for gramps......

Oh, ya lighters over there next to your crack pipe.
 
Agreed 100% I tried college did not like it nor did it teach me 1 thing i needed to know in real life. I am ADD like a sob.

remember these?
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Never used one outside a classroom, though i was told many times that I needed this knowledge to survive life. Bowling and Tetris were obviosuly enough to get by.

I learned more useful information about life by playing sports all year and being part of different groups and social clubs than what I actually learned in a classroom. Classroom taught me how to memorize something for a short time period, pass a test, and move on.
 
Your wretched assessment attempts to say because you liked the idea of being forced to do something which was funded thru coercion, that it must be good for everyone else too. However, if it were that good, it wouldn't have to be forcibly funded would it, dolt?

Also your inb4 comment, is silly and a poor example which bolsters my point. Pedophilia (sex between parties where one party has not or cannot consent) and being made to pay for something without your consent are similar in that, force, rather than consent is the common denominator.

Please don't tell me you also shit on the food court bathroom floor.

Are you trying to argue that because YOU don't like school and YOU don't like government that everyone else should not like it as well?

I notice you've tried to correlate school and prison and government in various ways, all of which fall flat on their face. This example is YANT. Yet Another Nonsense Thread. Your quoted material is an opinionated opine to those who pander to pedantic pedophilia; and you lick it off your plate.
 
Are you trying to argue that because YOU don't like school and YOU don't like government that everyone else should not like it as well?

I notice you've tried to correlate school and prison and government in various ways, all of which fall flat on their face. This example is YANT. Yet Another Nonsense Thread. Your quoted material is an opinionated opine to those who pander to pedantic pedophilia; and you lick it off your plate.

i like how this thread turned into a collection of the stupidest, most racist, and most retarded right wingers we have all talking about how they hate education.

well duh, of course they do. misery loves company, and so does stupidity.
 
Are you trying to argue that because YOU don't like school and YOU don't like government that everyone else should not like it as well?

I notice you've tried to correlate school and prison and government in various ways, all of which fall flat on their face. This example is YANT. Yet Another Nonsense Thread. Your quoted material is an opinionated opine to those who pander to pedantic pedophilia; and you lick it off your plate.


I never said I don't like education or schools. I don't like institutions, such as government schools which rely on acquiring their erm "customers" via threats of force for non payment. Why do you?

Don't you find it ironic that schools purport to quell bullying, yet the government ones are funded thru threats of property confiscation? That's not exactly a principal which is customer service oriented now is it?

Also children bear a similarity to prisoners as they are sentenced to a term of confinement and will be punished if they attempt to escape.

People that like government schools should have all they want of it, people that don't should not be forced to participate in it or to fund it.

I'm sorry your attention span is so short and you found the article pedantic. I don't lick my plate either.
 
i like how this thread turned into a collection of the stupidest, most racist, and most retarded right wingers we have all talking about how they hate education.

well duh, of course they do. misery loves company, and so does stupidity.


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I never said I don't like education or schools. I don't like institutions, such as government schools which rely on acquiring their erm "customers" via threats of force for non payment. Why do you?

Don't you find it ironic that schools purport to quell bullying, yet the government ones are funded thru threats of property confiscation? That's not exactly a principal which is customer service oriented now is it?

Also children bear a similarity to prisoners as they are sentenced to a term of confinement and will be punished if they attempt to escape.

People that like government schools should have all they want of it, people that don't should not be forced to participate in it or to fund it.

I'm sorry your attention span is so short and you found the article pedantic. I don't lick my plate either.

Attention span is fine good sir, I managed to make it through all your blathering. :clap:

As for what you just said; these are your opinions. And that's all they are. Nothing substantiated here. Moving along.
 
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