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I posted a link to THE website coordinating opposition to Obamacare. Read it and weep.
desperate times call for desperate measures.
this things gonna pass. no damn website's gonna do anything about it.....
Cracks appear in abortion front against healthcare reform
Play Video FOX News – Rep. Bart Stupak Will Vote No on Reform
AP – Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, speaks and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers R-Wash., and Rep. Marsha Blackburn, …
By Linda Feldmann Linda Feldmann – Thu Mar 18, 7:45 pm ET
Washington – A widening split among opponents of abortion could help pave the way to passage for President Obama’s healthcare reform legislation.
Increasingly, abortion foes – including high-profile Catholic organizations and members of Congress – are saying that while the language aimed at preventing use of federal funds for abortion is not perfect, the bill is still worth passing as a first step.
The Catholic Health Association, which represents more than 600 Catholic hospitals in the US, came out earlier this week in favor of the president’s plan, arguing that comprehensive reform is a “moral imperative.” On Wednesday, 60 Catholic nuns representing most of the nation’s 59,000 nuns sent a letter to Congress, also urging passage of the bill.
The one-two punch represents an extraordinary display of dissent against the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, the official leadership of the US church, which favors universal healthcare but opposes the president’s plan over the abortion issue.
Congressmen break ranksIn addition, some Catholic Democrats in Congress who oppose abortion have begun to peel away and signal either definite or likely support for the president’s plan, which is the Senate-passed version, plus fixes (none of them abortion-related).
“At this point, I’m confident the Senate language upholds my pro-life values,” said Rep. Charlie Wilson (D) of Ohio on a conference call Thursday.
Congressman Wilson, who is Catholic, added that he needed to review the final version of the bill, which was released Thursday afternoon, but seemed headed toward “yes.” In his remarks, Wilson cited the thousands of Americans who die every year without healthcare. “We must value these lives as well,” he said.
On Wednesday, Rep. Dale Kildee (D) of Michigan, another Catholic abortion opponent, announced he would vote “yes” on the Senate plan.
Staunch opponents hold firmOpponents of abortion rights have been running ads in the districts of members like Wilson and Congressman Kildee, trying to persuade them to vote against healthcare reform. They are now expanding their campaign.
The group Americans United for Life Action (AUL) has devoted more than $350,000 to the campaign. Despite signs that Obama’s campaign to pass reform has momentum, AUL president Charmaine Yoest says she still doesn’t see how House speaker Nancy Pelosi gets the 216 votes she needs to pass the bill.
“This is tight enough that she’s really got to get every person she needs to get this over the finish line,” says Ms. Yoest.
The defection of Kildee was especially tough for Rep. Bart Stupak (D) of Michigan, the author of an amendment to the House version of reform that abortion-rights supporters said would have further hindered access to the procedure.
Congressman Stupak has been saying that he has a dozen House members willing to vote against the Senate version of reform, effectively killing it. But Democratic leaders have been wooing them hard, zeroing in on the elements of the bill they support.
Stupak himself says he has suffered for his advocacy, calling his life a “living hell” in an interview with The Hill newspaper. “People saying they’re going to spit on you and all this,” he says. “That’s just not fun.”
from yahoo, originally written by Linda Feldmann from The Christian Science Monitor.
this things gonna pass. no damn website's gonna do anything about it.....
Cracks appear in abortion front against healthcare reform
Play Video FOX News – Rep. Bart Stupak Will Vote No on Reform -
Play Video Video:Abortion: Key Issue in Health Care Battle FOX News -
Play Video Video:Anthony Weiner on Abortion in Health Care FOX News
AP – Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, speaks and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers R-Wash., and Rep. Marsha Blackburn, … By Linda Feldmann Linda Feldmann – Thu Mar 18, 7:45 pm ET
Washington – A widening split among opponents of abortion could help pave the way to passage for President Obama’s healthcare reform legislation.
Increasingly, abortion foes – including high-profile Catholic organizations and members of Congress – are saying that while the language aimed at preventing use of federal funds for abortion is not perfect, the bill is still worth passing as a first step.
The Catholic Health Association, which represents more than 600 Catholic hospitals in the US, came out earlier this week in favor of the president’s plan, arguing that comprehensive reform is a “moral imperative.” On Wednesday, 60 Catholic nuns representing most of the nation’s 59,000 nuns sent a letter to Congress, also urging passage of the bill.
The one-two punch represents an extraordinary display of dissent against the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, the official leadership of the US church, which favors universal healthcare but opposes the president’s plan over the abortion issue.
Congressmen break ranksIn addition, some Catholic Democrats in Congress who oppose abortion have begun to peel away and signal either definite or likely support for the president’s plan, which is the Senate-passed version, plus fixes (none of them abortion-related).
“At this point, I’m confident the Senate language upholds my pro-life values,” said Rep. Charlie Wilson (D) of Ohio on a conference call Thursday.
Congressman Wilson, who is Catholic, added that he needed to review the final version of the bill, which was released Thursday afternoon, but seemed headed toward “yes.” In his remarks, Wilson cited the thousands of Americans who die every year without healthcare. “We must value these lives as well,” he said.
On Wednesday, Rep. Dale Kildee (D) of Michigan, another Catholic abortion opponent, announced he would vote “yes” on the Senate plan.
Staunch opponents hold firmOpponents of abortion rights have been running ads in the districts of members like Wilson and Congressman Kildee, trying to persuade them to vote against healthcare reform. They are now expanding their campaign.
The group Americans United for Life Action (AUL) has devoted more than $350,000 to the campaign. Despite signs that Obama’s campaign to pass reform has momentum, AUL president Charmaine Yoest says she still doesn’t see how House speaker Nancy Pelosi gets the 216 votes she needs to pass the bill.
“This is tight enough that she’s really got to get every person she needs to get this over the finish line,” says Ms. Yoest.
The defection of Kildee was especially tough for Rep. Bart Stupak (D) of Michigan, the author of an amendment to the House version of reform that abortion-rights supporters said would have further hindered access to the procedure.
Congressman Stupak has been saying that he has a dozen House members willing to vote against the Senate version of reform, effectively killing it. But Democratic leaders have been wooing them hard, zeroing in on the elements of the bill they support.
Stupak himself says he has suffered for his advocacy, calling his life a “living hell” in an interview with The Hill newspaper. “People saying they’re going to spit on you and all this,” he says. “That’s just not fun.”
from yahoo, originally written by Linda Feldmann from The Christian Science Monitor.
irishronn
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read that and weep you Republican (FOX) sheepdesperate times call for desperate measures.
this things gonna pass. no damn website's gonna do anything about it.....
Cracks appear in abortion front against healthcare reform
By Linda Feldmann Linda Feldmann Thu Mar 18, 7:45 pm ET
Washington A widening split among opponents of abortion could help pave the way to passage for President Obamas healthcare reform legislation.
Increasingly, abortion foes including high-profile Catholic organizations and members of Congress are saying that while the language aimed at preventing use of federal funds for abortion is not perfect, the bill is still worth passing as a first step.
The Catholic Health Association, which represents more than 600 Catholic hospitals in the US, came out earlier this week in favor of the presidents plan, arguing that comprehensive reform is a moral imperative. On Wednesday, 60 Catholic nuns representing most of the nations 59,000 nuns sent a letter to Congress, also urging passage of the bill.
The one-two punch represents an extraordinary display of dissent against the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, the official leadership of the US church, which favors universal healthcare but opposes the presidents plan over the abortion issue.
Congressmen break ranksIn addition, some Catholic Democrats in Congress who oppose abortion have begun to peel away and signal either definite or likely support for the presidents plan, which is the Senate-passed version, plus fixes (none of them abortion-related).
At this point, Im confident the Senate language upholds my pro-life values, said Rep. Charlie Wilson (D) of Ohio on a conference call Thursday.
Congressman Wilson, who is Catholic, added that he needed to review the final version of the bill, which was released Thursday afternoon, but seemed headed toward yes. In his remarks, Wilson cited the thousands of Americans who die every year without healthcare. We must value these lives as well, he said.
On Wednesday, Rep. Dale Kildee (D) of Michigan, another Catholic abortion opponent, announced he would vote yes on the Senate plan.
Staunch opponents hold firmOpponents of abortion rights have been running ads in the districts of members like Wilson and Congressman Kildee, trying to persuade them to vote against healthcare reform. They are now expanding their campaign.
The group Americans United for Life Action (AUL) has devoted more than $350,000 to the campaign. Despite signs that Obamas campaign to pass reform has momentum, AUL president Charmaine Yoest says she still doesnt see how House speaker Nancy Pelosi gets the 216 votes she needs to pass the bill.
This is tight enough that shes really got to get every person she needs to get this over the finish line, says Ms. Yoest.
The defection of Kildee was especially tough for Rep. Bart Stupak (D) of Michigan, the author of an amendment to the House version of reform that abortion-rights supporters said would have further hindered access to the procedure.
Congressman Stupak has been saying that he has a dozen House members willing to vote against the Senate version of reform, effectively killing it. But Democratic leaders have been wooing them hard, zeroing in on the elements of the bill they support.
Stupak himself says he has suffered for his advocacy, calling his life a living hell in an interview with The Hill newspaper. People saying theyre going to spit on you and all this, he says. Thats just not fun.
from yahoo, originally written by Linda Feldmann from The Christian Science Monitor.
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3:45 pm update from firedoglake, a very liberal site:
For 204, leaning to for zero. Opposed 205, leaning to oppose 10, undecided9. If correct dems need all 9 undecided votes to stay alive. The wheels are falling off. Read it and weep.
For 204, leaning to for zero. Opposed 205, leaning to oppose 10, undecided9. If correct dems need all 9 undecided votes to stay alive. The wheels are falling off. Read it and weep.
upnorth2505
New Member
Typical of the lazy approach of illegal's posts. Opps, can I say that? Opps you said fucking hack. Not sure what you can say here. I guess it depends which side of the political spectrum you are on.
