The UK Growers Thread!

[The Yorkshireman]

Don’t want to shit on your parade but I ran gavitas for years and solistek are far superior

I don't see how Solistek are better than Gavita when Gavita are a pioneering Dutch firm and with their own R&D department and own the original patents to the designs.

Solistek are made in China copys of Gavita designs and the new Solistek V2 units are just generic Chinese ballasts with a DE fitting on the end.
(Notice how Gavita came first, many years before all these new DE units on the market that are nearly identical)

Gavita were bought out by the dark side of the grow industry not too long ago and standards have dropped.

Gavita are a massive Dutch firm who have production plants in Europe.

Solistek however do represent the dark side of the grow industry as (like I've said) they're made in China and are copys or modified generics with branding slapped on them.
I know because some years ago I was going to get into the game and get my own brand equipment made up by the biggest hydro OEM manufacturer in China, I know who produce the Solistek units.

Also (and sorry) rhino filters are one of the worst on the market, they are so loosely packed. If you ask any clued up grow shop owner they will confirm this. I feel bad criticizing your purchases however I’d rather be straight up with you as bad filters get you caught

Bullshit Rhino filters are one of the worst on the market, they got 1st place according to a grow shop survey in Hydro Garden magazine in 2015.

Rhino filters are mass produced and packed by machine so they can't possibly be loosely packed.

When you refer to grow shop owners as "clued up" what that really means is 'incentivized' or 'had his head filled with bollocks by a competing distributor of another brand'.

I've yet to meet a grow shop owner who really is clued up enough to know that the vast majority of grow gear in the UK are all owned by 2 or 3 parent company's distributed by a few firms that are connected and it's nearly all made in China.

I like mountain air filters but I’ve heard good things about can and phresh. I seen a video with rhino filters and they are either practically empty or there’s big gaps letting unfiltered air through.

Ironically Phresh filters and Rhino filters are nearly exactly the same, they're both made in China and in my opinion (having them side by side brand new) are actually both made in the same factory!

I'd like to see this video of these brand new Rhino Pro filters pulled straight out of sealed boxes, have the rivets drilled out and the carbon beds pulled out for all to see them "practically empty" or "having big gaps" because like I said, they're mass produced and machine packed.

I had one years ago that wasn’t nearly as good as my usual brand but it was all I could get at the time. I can’t remember why exactly I didnt like it at the time but no one I know fucks with rhino. They were called out about 6 years ago for using a shit charcoal I remember that much. So many good shops have stopped stocking them that says a lot

You don't name the usual brand.

You can't remember what you didn't like about the Rhino (conveniently).

"Nobody I know fucks with Rhino" is a 'plead to authority fallacy', who gives a shit what people you know fuck with, especially if they're taking the advice from some cunt who owns a grow shop?

No they weren't called out 6 years ago for using shit charcoal at all, I heard the exact same rumour going round the grow shops in Yorkshire.
I suspect it was either A) started by a distributor of a competing brand. or B) It stemmed from shit growers who ran too high humidity leading their Rhino filters to be less effective and saying they "clog up".
Filters can potentially become less effective when the micron size of the carbon used at the low end is small and the humidity is too high.
Rhino filters use RC412 carbon which is 4 mesh (4760 microns) to 12 mesh (1680 microns.), Phresh filters use RC48 carbon which is 4 mesh (4760 microns) to 8 mesh (2380 microns).
So that explains Rhino filters becoming less effective at high humidity (70% ish), but it also demonstrates that Rhino filters are objectively better at filtering out more VOC's than Phresh filters because the range of the carbon particle size is a difference of 0.97mm.

So many shops have stopped stocking them does say a lot, it says grow shop owners know fuck all about growing, fuck all about the cannabis grow equipment industry and who's behind it all or how carbon filtration works which is why they can shill for competing company's so easily and get caught out just as easily with the internet.



Fuck all wrong with these Rhino Pro's of varying ages, the one with no pre filter I've had as long as I've been a member here and it still works (not 100% but it works for a small veg tent), all are packed to the brim with carbon and you can't even make the carbon move when you shake them.



CanFan fans are made in Germany by Ruck, the original and best fan manufacturer. (most others are copys of the original Ruck design and made in China)



And this will be a container of Solistek units from China on the 'Solistek UK' Facebook page.









Pretty much everything you've said is complete bullshit.

 

[scrambo]

post made me giggle lad. It was the combo of the whitey with the statement of being off the 'hard stuff'...then promptly going on to say...'had me usual vods'. Nearly spat my beer out at that one. Go Scrambo Go

Fucking el D, throw me a friggin bone mate i meant by the hard shit i.e the crack,benzos,coke,ket,pills i been on since age 12 lol

Lifes good at the mo mate tbh apart from me sister dog of course, wish id gave it up yrs ago.

 

[scrambo]

I didnt even read that post totally Yman, but good to see you about and hope all is good for you.

Can say tho used rhino and can filters for 10yrs nearly n never a prob with smell they worked for me at least..... Did always want a mountin air tho.

 

[oscaroscar]

I don't see how Solistek are better than Gavita when Gavita are a pioneering Dutch firm and with their own R&D department and own the original patents to the designs.

Solistek are made in China copys of Gavita designs and the new Solistek V2 units are just generic Chinese ballasts with a DE fitting on the end.
(Notice how Gavita came first, many years before all these new DE units on the market that are nearly identical)



Gavita are a massive Dutch firm who have production plants in Europe.

Solistek however do represent the dark side of the grow industry as (like I've said) they're made in China and are copys or modified generics with branding slapped on them.
I know because some years ago I was going to get into the game and get my own brand equipment made up by the biggest hydro OEM manufacturer in China, I know who produce the Solistek units.



Bullshit Rhino filters are one of the worst on the market, they got 1st place according to a grow shop survey in Hydro Garden magazine in 2015.

Rhino filters are mass produced and packed by machine so they can't possibly be loosely packed.

When you refer to grow shop owners as "clued up" what that really means is 'incentivized' or 'had his head filled with bollocks by a competing distributor of another brand'.

I've yet to meet a grow shop owner who really is clued up enough to know that the vast majority of grow gear in the UK are all owned by 2 or 3 parent company's distributed by a few firms that are connected and it's nearly all made in China.



Ironically Phresh filters and Rhino filters are nearly exactly the same, they're both made in China and in my opinion (having them side by side brand new) are actually both made in the same factory!

I'd like to see this video of these brand new Rhino Pro filters pulled straight out of sealed boxes, have the rivets drilled out and the carbon beds pulled out for all to see them "practically empty" or "having big gaps" because like I said, they're mass produced and machine packed.



You don't name the usual brand.

You can't remember what you didn't like about the Rhino (conveniently).

"Nobody I know fucks with Rhino" is a 'plead to authority fallacy', who gives a shit what people you know fuck with, especially if they're taking the advice from some cunt who owns a grow shop?

No they weren't called out 6 years ago for using shit charcoal at all, I heard the exact same rumour going round the grow shops in Yorkshire.
I suspect it was either A) started by a distributor of a competing brand. or B) It stemmed from shit growers who ran too high humidity leading their Rhino filters to be less effective and saying they "clog up".
Filters can potentially become less effective when the micron size of the carbon used at the low end is small and the humidity is too high.
Rhino filters use RC412 carbon which is 4 mesh (4760 microns) to 12 mesh (1680 microns.), Phresh filters use RC48 carbon which is 4 mesh (4760 microns) to 8 mesh (2380 microns).
So that explains Rhino filters becoming less effective at high humidity (70% ish), but it also demonstrates that Rhino filters are objectively better at filtering out more VOC's than Phresh filters because the range of the carbon particle size is a difference of 0.97mm.

So many shops have stopped stocking them does say a lot, it says grow shop owners know fuck all about growing, fuck all about the cannabis grow equipment industry and who's behind it all or how carbon filtration works which is why they can shill for competing company's so easily and get caught out just as easily with the internet.



Fuck all wrong with these Rhino Pro's of varying ages, the one with no pre filter I've had as long as I've been a member here and it still works (not 100% but it works for a small veg tent), all are packed to the brim with carbon and you can't even make the carbon move when you shake them.

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CanFan fans are made in Germany by Ruck, the original and best fan manufacturer. (most others are copys of the original Ruck design and made in China)

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And this will be a container of Solistek units from China on the 'Solistek UK' Facebook page.

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Pretty much everything you've said is complete bullshit.

That pic of the container looks like a shoddy outfit at the distributor.
No hi viz, no forklift to unload it.
That pic screams cowboys to me.

 

[limonene]

I don't see how Solistek are better than Gavita when Gavita are a pioneering Dutch firm and with their own R&D department and own the original patents to the designs.

Solistek are made in China copys of Gavita designs and the new Solistek V2 units are just generic Chinese ballasts with a DE fitting on the end.
(Notice how Gavita came first, many years before all these new DE units on the market that are nearly identical)



Gavita are a massive Dutch firm who have production plants in Europe.

Solistek however do represent the dark side of the grow industry as (like I've said) they're made in China and are copys or modified generics with branding slapped on them.
I know because some years ago I was going to get into the game and get my own brand equipment made up by the biggest hydro OEM manufacturer in China, I know who produce the Solistek units.



Bullshit Rhino filters are one of the worst on the market, they got 1st place according to a grow shop survey in Hydro Garden magazine in 2015.

Rhino filters are mass produced and packed by machine so they can't possibly be loosely packed.

When you refer to grow shop owners as "clued up" what that really means is 'incentivized' or 'had his head filled with bollocks by a competing distributor of another brand'.

I've yet to meet a grow shop owner who really is clued up enough to know that the vast majority of grow gear in the UK are all owned by 2 or 3 parent company's distributed by a few firms that are connected and it's nearly all made in China.



Ironically Phresh filters and Rhino filters are nearly exactly the same, they're both made in China and in my opinion (having them side by side brand new) are actually both made in the same factory!

I'd like to see this video of these brand new Rhino Pro filters pulled straight out of sealed boxes, have the rivets drilled out and the carbon beds pulled out for all to see them "practically empty" or "having big gaps" because like I said, they're mass produced and machine packed.



You don't name the usual brand.

You can't remember what you didn't like about the Rhino (conveniently).

"Nobody I know fucks with Rhino" is a 'plead to authority fallacy', who gives a shit what people you know fuck with, especially if they're taking the advice from some cunt who owns a grow shop?

No they weren't called out 6 years ago for using shit charcoal at all, I heard the exact same rumour going round the grow shops in Yorkshire.
I suspect it was either A) started by a distributor of a competing brand. or B) It stemmed from shit growers who ran too high humidity leading their Rhino filters to be less effective and saying they "clog up".
Filters can potentially become less effective when the micron size of the carbon used at the low end is small and the humidity is too high.
Rhino filters use RC412 carbon which is 4 mesh (4760 microns) to 12 mesh (1680 microns.), Phresh filters use RC48 carbon which is 4 mesh (4760 microns) to 8 mesh (2380 microns).
So that explains Rhino filters becoming less effective at high humidity (70% ish), but it also demonstrates that Rhino filters are objectively better at filtering out more VOC's than Phresh filters because the range of the carbon particle size is a difference of 0.97mm.

So many shops have stopped stocking them does say a lot, it says grow shop owners know fuck all about growing, fuck all about the cannabis grow equipment industry and who's behind it all or how carbon filtration works which is why they can shill for competing company's so easily and get caught out just as easily with the internet.



Fuck all wrong with these Rhino Pro's of varying ages, the one with no pre filter I've had as long as I've been a member here and it still works (not 100% but it works for a small veg tent), all are packed to the brim with carbon and you can't even make the carbon move when you shake them.

View attachment 4150467

CanFan fans are made in Germany by Ruck, the original and best fan manufacturer. (most others are copys of the original Ruck design and made in China)

View attachment 4150468

And this will be a container of Solistek units from China on the 'Solistek UK' Facebook page.

View attachment 4150469







Pretty much everything you've said is complete bullshit.

I’m about to go to bed so I’ll get into this with you properly tomorrow but most of what you’ve said may have been true about 7 years ago but I guess you don’t really keep up to date with a rapidly changing industry
Gavita have been bought out by another company, the Hawthorne group which is a subsidiary of Scott’s and are famous for buying agricultural related companies and stripping the arse out of their quality control to increase overheads. Gavitas standards have dropped since they were bought out, returns have gone through the roof and having used both companies fixtures which I doubt you have i can give you my word that solistek is on another level in terms of product, product range and customer service. Yes I know they are made in China it says so in huge letters on the boxes their lights come in but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are of low standard. Out of interest what lights do you use?
Rhino filters are awful but like I said before that mainly applies to the 10 and 12 inch models which is the size I buy. Below that size the filters for hobby growers like yourself probably are passable. I use mountain air and have done for years, fantastic filters.
I think your head is ever so slightly lodged up your arse as you don’t seem to be able to discuss matters in a civil way. All I can say is I’ve grown for 20 years, have had a lot of good and bad equipment. Been bullshitted to by shop owners, been given good advice on occasions. But in the meantime I’ve used my own brain and tried a hell of a lot of brands and if I say something is good or bad I am speaking from first hand experience and not from hearsay.

 

[DST]

That pic of the container looks like a shoddy outfit at the distributor.
No hi viz, no forklift to unload it.
That pic screams cowboys to me.

lmfao....a hi viz vest is only a few sheckles as well. i had to get them for the guys who work for me as their Lab is in the middle of a warehouse.

 

[limonene]

For all we know there’s someone with a forklift and a high viz sat out of the picture waiting to off load. The lights are amazing and unless someone here has run both then they really are flapping out their arse

 

[zeddd]

Wars on then, I’ve got my money on y man but lim will fight hard

 

[oscaroscar]

For all we know there’s someone with a forklift and a high viz sat out of the picture waiting to off load. The lights are amazing and unless someone here has run both then they really are flapping out their arse

I don't know anything about the lights in question. I just gave my opinion about the picture/first impression of the company.
Everyone should have hi viz and safety boots on. Not just one of them. Also who in their right mind would unload a container by hand if a forklift was available?
I work in distribution and I know a bunch of cowboys when I see them

 

[oscaroscar]

I take it back about the forklift. On closer inspection the boxes aren't on pallets so a forklift wouldn't really help. The senders should have shrink wrapped the boxes on pallets. They are quite likely to be damaged in transit. Lorry to docks-unloaded at docks-loaded on to ship and that sequence reversed that's a lot of opportunity to get damaged rattling around in a container on rough seas and rougher roads.
I've not run the lights so I can't vouch for them either way

 

[DST]

Fukkin love it.

 

[limonene]

i dunno I can’t be arsed to fight but having used both companies I find solistek de lights, controller and cmh superior to gavita. And I ran gavita for years and never had a problem with any fixtures.

 

[Greenhouse;save]

post made me giggle lad. It was the combo of the whitey with the statement of being off the 'hard stuff'...then promptly going on to say...'had me usual vods'. Nearly spat my beer out at that one. Go Scrambo Go

Same here.......lol

 

[scrambo]

Howdy people

So been trying to sort things out with the ex the last few months n has been going good, shes not long got back in contact with her real dad after like 38yrs, anyway him and his missus are down from scotland visiting.

Few nights ago we all having a drink together, having a nice night then i fancied a joint n had some nice grapefruit rolled one and the dad missus has asked for some then the dad, they seemed fine so i rolled another n then me phone rung or something and next thing i no they smoked the whole fucking joint!

20mins later the dad has just totally passed out sitting up at a dinnertable chair then started to slide of it lol so ive managed to carry him to the sofa n hes out for the fucking count. His missus then asks if i got more smoke so i rolled another and shared it with her outside as we going back in shes trip over the ledge hard!

Fucking snapped her ankle! Bone almost breaking the skin! The dad is mongoed and not blinked an eye at her screaming, the ex is pissed out her nut demanding i pick the women up of the floor until i pointed out her ankle!

Fucking paramedics have taken ages to come n im the only one sober enough to go hospital with her lol turns out she broke her ankle in 3places ouch. Anyway spose the moral of the story is dont give old people who been drinking strong weed lolol

 

[ThatSpudGuy]

Howdy people

So been trying to sort things out with the ex the last few months n has been going good, shes not long got back in contact with her real dad after like 38yrs, anyway him and his missus are down from scotland visiting.

Few nights ago we all having a drink together, having a nice night then i fancied a joint n had some nice grapefruit rolled one and the dad missus has asked for some then the dad, they seemed fine so i rolled another n then me phone rung or something and next thing i no they smoked the whole fucking joint!

20mins later the dad has just totally passed out sitting up at a dinnertable chair then started to slide of it lol so ive managed to carry him to the sofa n hes out for the fucking count. His missus then asks if i got more smoke so i rolled another and shared it with her outside as we going back in shes trip over the ledge hard!

Fucking snapped her ankle! Bone almost breaking the skin! The dad is mongoed and not blinked an eye at her screaming, the ex is pissed out her nut demanding i pick the women up of the floor until i pointed out her ankle!

Fucking paramedics have taken ages to come n im the only one sober enough to go hospital with her lol turns out she broke her ankle in 3places ouch. Anyway spose the moral of the story is dont give old people who been drinking strong weed lolol

Man that made me lol hard hahaha

 

[scrambo]

I felt bad enough at the screams of my ex of "youve killed my dad" when he passed out, but his missus then breaking her ankle just pushed me over the edge lol

Then i thought i was gonna spew in the back of the ambulance, n almost really did spew when they where reseting the womens ankle pulling and twisting it and it clicking n crunching.....arrrrghhhh

Was proper dramas lol

 

[zeddd]

Sounds like that was some strong gear Rambo. That booze combo is not for everyone, that’s one fuked ankle btw

 

[scrambo]

Sounds like that was some strong gear Rambo. That booze combo is not for everyone, that’s one fuked ankle btw

It was a nice mate, they where just both pissed tho and hadnt smoked it in god nos how long and old lol 65 n 67.

She had to have a op on the ankle n is still in hosp now.....

 

[DST]

Carry on Smoking, lmfao, thanks for sharing that one lad.

 

[Roobarb]

That's a mad one @scrambo


A few weeks ago I was at my son's football match. I met an old mate there. He'd had a motorbike accident a month before and had pins in his ankle. So we sat on a wall and had a spiff. I told him to go easy but no, he was caning it. He went a bit pale but was still smiling. Next thing he falls backwards off the wall, crutches flying. I nearly shit. No more damage thankfully