The Politics of Correctness..

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schuylaar

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When is it enough? when do you just accept a kind gesture and let the rest go?

You’re probably wondering what I’m talking about..we’ll get to that but:

Did you ever do something nice for a stranger only to have that stranger be critical of the good deed?(that it wasn’t correct and they asked for you to correct) this deed was also done for others exactly the same.

When you were growing up did any of your elders tell you it is impolite to correct a person who misspeaks or gifts you something that’s not quite what you wanted- that it’s about ‘the thought that matters’?

This thread is about the ‘Crossman’..the person who makes the crosses since
Columbine and a request he received that left me speechless.

He recently put the original crosses in Aurora’s back for the 19th anniversary on 4/20, along with Parklands out of respect of the newness of another killing, when when I couldn’t help but to notice the five that were different.

Yes..a grieving Parkland parent had called this man to complain that their child’s cross should be a Star of David.

I can see he made them quickly by the scrawled names..I’m saddened that this kind gesture was obscured by the pained parent not understanding that this wasn’t about separation but about togetherness..and in making that request that is exactly what that parent did.

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srh88

srh88

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schuylaar said:
When is it enough? when do you just accept a kind gesture and let the rest go?

You’re probably wondering what I’m talking about..we’ll get to that but:

Did you ever do something nice for a stranger only to have that stranger be critical of the good deed?(that it wasn’t correct and they asked for you to correct) this deed was also done for others exactly the same.

When you were growing up did any of your elders tell you it is impolite to correct a person who misspeaks or gifts you something that’s not quite what you wanted- that it’s about ‘the thought that matters’?

This thread is about the ‘Crossman’..the person who makes the crosses since
Columbine and a request he received that left me speechless.

He recently put the original crosses in Aurora’s back for the 19th anniversary on 4/20, along with Parklands out of respect of the newness of another killing, when when I couldn’t help but to notice the five that were different.

Yes..a grieving Parkland parent had called this man to complain that their child’s cross should be a Star of David.

I can see he made them quickly by the scrawled names..I’m saddened that this kind gesture was obscured by the pained parent not understanding that this wasn’t about separation but about togetherness..and in making that request that is exactly what that parent did.
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That's a long post... is this therad official** ?
 
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schuylaar

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This was a gesture of inclusion..a club of sorts..similar to that of Arlington National Cemetery.

I feel for Crossman and am embarrassed (but not surprised) that this came from my area.

The human condition is complex and will never change.

You’re right, Bebe..no two state solution, not now, not ever.
 
Sativied

Sativied

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@schuylaar sorry, I don’t see what political correctness has to do with this. I’m with the Jew on this one. Simple case of lesser evils to me. Crosses should be frowned upon and preferably banned from graveyards, births, marriages, and everything important in life as the cross represents a hateful anti-life religion. Why should any Jew appreciate a symbol of the deceivers who took their religion and made it even worse. According to one of the greatest philosphers who ever lived the Jews brought us (in Europe but also the US) “cleaner intellectual habits”. While christianity, especially the protestants who hold back civilization in the US as well as in my country, brought us the anti-intellectual way.

Above all, a star is a far more honest symbol as to stardust we return. If the cross were to be updated it would be a guillotine or electrical chair - fucked up.

That jewish parent isn’t the problem, it’s the 280-whopping-million christians in the US in a “nation under god”, where “in god we trust”. Where Trump is chosen by God and the constitution is Gospel. Very similar mottos as the islamic state, and as nationalistic as nazi germany. I pmed buck for a solution but all he came up with so far is “shoot them between the eyes”.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Sativied said:
@schuylaar sorry, I don’t see what political correctness has to do with this. I’m with the Jew on this one. Simple case of lesser evils to me. Crosses should be frowned upon and preferably banned from graveyards, births, marriages, and everything important in life as the cross represents a hateful anti-life religion. Why should any Jew appreciate a symbol of the deceivers who took their religion and made it even worse. According to one of the greatest philosphers who ever lived the Jews brought us (in Europe but also the US) “cleaner intellectual habits”. While christianity, especially the protestants who hold back civilization in the US as well as in my country, brought us the anti-intellectual way.

Above all, a star is a far more honest symbol as to stardust we return. If the cross were to be updated it would be a guillotine or electrical chair - fucked up.

That jewish parent isn’t the problem, it’s the 280-whopping-million christians in the US in a “nation under god”, where “in god we trust”. Where Trump is chosen by God and the constitution is Gospel. Very similar mottos as the islamic state, and as nationalistic as nazi germany. I pmed buck for a solution but all he came up with so far is “shoot them between the eyes”.
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You have a very simple view of complex people. Too simple. Religion wasn't the driver in this election.

Trump was elected mainly by white men and women who were attracted to his racist and misogynist rhetoric. Yes many attended Christian churches. After all, 70% of the people in this country say they are Christians. It would be hard to hold an election where the winner did not win a majority of Christian votes. To say Christianity played a role raises the question: How many votes do you think Trump garnered from African American Protestants?

Also, let's not gloss over the fact that Trump didn't get a majority vote.
 
choomer

choomer

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My take is that if you (out of your own pocket and time) endeavor to memorialize someone and the relatives of the memorialized take offense to the way you are doing it, they (the relatives) can in good conscience ask to be omitted from the memorial OR they can furnish a symbol they'd prefer to be used in place of the one not of their choosing at their own expense, but it's not the responsibility of the person memorializing.

It kinda rivals the stupidity of fuggin w/ someone making something you are going to EAT.
Don't piss off food service workers.

 
londonfog

londonfog

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Hot Cross Buns


Buns
  • 1/4 cup apple juice or rum
  • 1/2 cup mixed dried fruit
  • 1/2 cup raisins or dried currants
  • 1 1/4 cups milk, room temperature
  • 2 large eggs, plus 1 egg yolk (save the white for the topping)
  • 6 tablespoons butter, room temperature
  • 2 teaspoons instant yeast
  • 1/4 cup light brown sugar, firmly packed
  • 1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
  • 1/4 teaspoon ground cloves or allspice
  • 1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
  • 1 3/4 teaspoons salt
  • 1 tablespoon baking powder
  • 4 1/2 cup flour
Topping
  • 1 large egg white, reserved from above
  • 1 tablespoon milk
Icing
  • 1 cup + 2 tablespoons confectioners' sugar
  • 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
  • pinch of salt
  • 4 teaspoons milk, or enough to make a thick, pipeable icing
Instructions
  1. Lightly grease a 10" square pan or 9" x 13" pan.
  2. Mix the rum or apple juice with the dried fruit and raisins, cover with plastic wrap, and microwave briefly, just till the fruit and liquid are very warm, and the plastic starts to "shrink wrap" itself over the top of the bowl. Set aside to cool to room temperature. Note: If you worry about using plastic wrap in your microwave, simply cover the bowl with a glass lid.
  3. When the fruit is cool, mix together all of the dough ingredients (including the eggs and the egg yolk from the separated egg); hold out the fruit for the time being. Knead the mixture, using an electric mixer or bread machine, until the dough is soft and elastic. It'll be very slack, sticking to the bottom of the bowl and your hands as you work with it (greasing your hands helps). Mix in the fruit and any liquid not absorbed.
  4. Let the dough rise for 1 hour, covered. It should become puffy, though may not double in bulk.
  5. Divide the dough into billiard ball-sized pieces, about 3 3/4 ounces each. A heaped muffin scoop (about 1/3 cup) makes about the right portion. You'll make 12 to 14 buns. Use your greased hands to round them into balls. Arrange them in the prepared pan.
  6. Cover the pan, and let the buns rise for 1 hour, or until they've puffed up and are touching one another. While the dough is rising, preheat the oven to 375°F.
  7. Whisk together the reserved egg white and milk, and brush it over the buns.
  8. Bake the buns for 20 minutes, until they're golden brown. Remove from the oven, carefully turn the buns out of the pan (they should come out in one large piece), and transfer them to a rack to cool.
  9. Mix together the icing ingredients, and when the buns are completely cool, pipe it in a cross shape atop each bun.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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choomer said:
My take is that if you (out of your own pocket and time) endeavor to memorialize someone and the relatives of the memorialized take offense to the way you are doing it, they (the relatives) can in good conscience ask to be omitted from the memorial OR they can furnish a symbol they'd prefer to be used in place of the one not of their choosing at their own expense, but it's not the responsibility of the person memorializing.

It kinda rivals the stupidity of fuggin w/ someone making something you are going to EAT.
Don't piss off food service workers.

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Totally hope you get laid, bro. The Toronto episode shows the danger of remaining an involuntary virgin at 30 years old.

Good luck. Bring Maybelline.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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So if you are, let's say Christian, and your kid dies and Satanists want to show respect for him by erecting pentagrams and other Satanic symbols are you going to thank them for the thought that counts?
 
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