"The Perfect Storm" Legal Pot in the USA?

dragonbud

dragonbud

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OK, I'm going to make a prediction, pot will be legal in most of the 50 states in the next two years. Let's take a look at the current events that have surfaced recently. Obama has said that he wants to stop interfering with the states ability to have medical marijuana dispensaries. The economy is in ruins, states are running out of money, our Olympic athletes are taking bong rips, and we have a president who understands economic realities. Currently state prisons are faced with the decision to release "selected" prisoners because they don't have the budget to take care of them. Obama just has to clear out the last of the "old institution DEA party" and appoint realists who actually want to solve problems in our society. Crystal meth is tearing through our country and leaving hollowed out corpses in it's place, it is a much bigger problem than weed. If I was Obama I would use the DEA to combat illegal meth that is flowing from our Southern border and I would also use the DEA for homeland security. Imagine our law enforcement being freed up from having to enforce pointless pot laws and then cops could concentrate their attentions on combatting gang violence, rapes, murder and the like. Once pot is legal in the United States, I think Mexico's drug cartel violence should decrease significantly causing more productivity out of the Mexican economy and less illegal entry from Mexico. Just my rant for the day.
 
thers so many holes in that theory....:roll:

not to be all gloom n doom, but my prediction is that niether us, nor our children will see legal herb in this country.

meth is a domestic product, very little if any comes from mexico. and the mexican cartels primarily make thier money off cocaine and heroin, weed is just a side project for them.

dispensaries still get raided despite our prisidents feelings.

and please explain to me why you think legal pot will slow the entry of illegals into this country. this i have got to hear.
 
Meth pre cursor chemicals are much harder to get. DEA made it much harder to make bulk purchases of ephedrine. Mexican super labs picked up the slack and now produce the majority of the meth in the USA. It is much harder now to get the necessary chemicals to cook meth, and when you do find them, you are going to create a paper trail that will lead to a bust. #2 Once pot is legal Mexican drug gangs will no longer be able to make money on pot, less money for gangs, less violence
SlikWiLL13 said:
thers so many holes in that theory....:roll:

not to be all gloom n doom, but my prediction is that niether us, nor our children will see legal herb in this country.

meth is a domestic product, very little if any comes from mexico. and the mexican cartels primarily make thier money off cocaine and heroin, weed is just a side project for them.

dispensaries still get raided despite our prisidents feelings.

and please explain to me why you think legal pot will slow the entry of illegals into this country. this i have got to hear.
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I'm with the high spirits on this theory! I like the enthusiasm and the optimism. I keep my fingers crossed, and head high bongsmilie
 
God I hope it is true that I will see legal cannabis. I am 23 and I have doubts that I will see it though. But then again maybe I am just being pessimistic...

I was caught up in the pro-Obama hype before the election and he got tons of support from me. I am not saying he wont due a good job but the politics of legalizing pot will be so much more complicated than just electing a more liberal party into the executive branch. The houses of congress will have to give the A-OK and the Supreme court would need to give us some favorable and fair interpretations. All this could happen. BUT it will not happen overnight.

I think we still need more support to push us, as a nation, to that point. Hopefully soon the "War on Drugs," which is really a war on Americans, by the American government, with American causalities, will finally slip into th history books.

And I promise that history will not be kind to the people who imposed and enforced this long series of atrocities.
 
TheBotOnist said:
God I hope it is true that I will see legal cannabis. I am 23 and I have doubts that I will see it though. But then again maybe I am just being pessimistic...

I was caught up in the pro-Obama hype before the election and he got tons of support from me. I am not saying he wont due a good job but the politics of legalizing pot will be so much more complicated than just electing a more liberal party into the executive branch. The houses of congress will have to give the A-OK and the Supreme court would need to give us some favorable and fair interpretations. All this could happen. BUT it will not happen overnight.

I think we still need more support to push us, as a nation, to that point. Hopefully soon the "War on Drugs," which is really a war on Americans, by the American government, with American causalities, will finally slip into th history books.

And I promise that history will not be kind to the people who imposed and enforced this long series of atrocities.
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You've got a good point sir, but it's all about keeping that positive 'tude.

Anything is possible!
 
I'm 18, I bet I'll live to see it. if not I'll be living in the mountains, alone, growing my pot.
 
What really forces the legalization is the money issue. The US government is broke. I hate to be all doom and gloom but we (the US) really screwed up this time. We will be lucky if the whole damn thing does not collapse. California can't even balance their budget, they can't pay their police, fire dept, and other government entities. You think budgets are tight right now you will freak out on next year. I predict pot laws will become defacto legal because of riots in the street, gang violence, and property crimes. People are going to start stealing some shit if this economy does not get better.
 
you thought the great liberal example state could handle finances :) yeah right. Give me give me when times are good and don't take anything away when times are bad---just put it on the credit card.
 
here, i didnt feel like typing it out again. i have a longer version w/more points made, but i cant find it/

SlikWiLL13 said:
alright...get geared up to hate me, here i go -

pot will not be legalized in our or our childrens lifetimes. you speak of the money saved by not imprisoning potheads. do you know how many corrections officers, lawyers, law schools, and judges have jobs because we jail poit smokers? did you know the corrections officers union is one of the more powerful unions in the country? our laws are made primarily by ex-lawyers, ex-lawyers who fondly remember how easy the money was definding potheads.

the pharmacutical companies are fighting med pot tooth and nail, they have some of the most powerful lobbyists in the world. and they have the bank accounts to last rounds.

call me a pessimist, call me what you will. i think im realistic.
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I agree that anything is possible and being positive will help bring about the change we all want, but being positive is not enough. We all have to try to make it happen in any way we can. When I say that I mean doing other things than just growing,smoking,selling weed. It will take pressure from every like minded individual that believes in this cause.

We know that We (MJ enthusiest) are a majority over the MJ haters but unfourtunatlly we are a silent majority, and silent majorities can not accomplish anything. I am not saying it is all our fault that our voice have gone unheard. We have been kept silent by an opressive force that uses lies and propoganda to scare and misinform the people, and that uses the force violence and incarceration agianst non-violent Americans.

But I agree that things seem to be slowly changing to our favour. *knocks on wood* and if we all stay positive AND active in the cause then the change we want will happen sooner rather than later.
 
SlikWiLL13 said:
here, i didnt feel like typing it out again. i have a longer version w/more points made, but i cant find it/
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Well the answer out of that is simple...

revolution...

As it is not only our right but also our DUTY to overthrow the government we've implemented if it doesn't protect our personal freedoms and rights, then We The People need to get in the streets, let our voices be heard, and tell the heads of our great country, "You're Fired...we got this; We're taking our country back."
 
Obama's going to fix the economy with his STIMULUS package:) all his liberal idealist giveaways and his extra 13 dollars on your paycheck will without a doubt be worth running up the national debt and be super efficient at creating jobs :)

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090212/D96A0AGO0.html

They are pushing policies to save the economy that will do more damage than help---government does this with everything---GOVERNMENT IS THE ANSWER TO ALL OUR PROBLEMS :)
 
The Son of Man said:
Obama's going to fix the economy with his STIMULUS package:) all his liberal idealist giveaways and his extra 13 dollars on your paycheck will without a doubt be worth running up the national debt and be super efficient at creating jobs :)

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090212/D96A0AGO0.html

They are pushing policies to save the economy that will do more damage than help---government does this with everything---GOVERNMENT IS THE ANSWER TO ALL OUR PROBLEMS :)
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Again...my answer is this:

kingtrip said:
Well the answer out of that is simple...

revolution...

As it is not only our right but also our DUTY to overthrow the government we've implemented if it doesn't protect our personal freedoms and rights, then We The People need to get in the streets, let our voices be heard, and tell the heads of our great country, "You're Fired...we got this; We're taking our country back."
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kingtrip said:
Well the answer out of that is simple...

revolution...

As it is not only our right but also our DUTY to overthrow the government we've implemented if it doesn't protect our personal freedoms and rights, then We The People need to get in the streets, let our voices be heard, and tell the heads of our great country, "You're Fired...we got this; We're taking our country back."
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better do it before they take away all the guns that would be useful in a revolution :wall:
 
NOT POSSIBLE in todays day and age. You really think the statemalitias will back up some stoners in a war with the us federal forces???

The only way is peaceull, poitical force!!!

IMHO of course :)
 
Peaceful force is the only way to do it...I don't need guns or any weapon other than my words.

I look at it this way, they kill me (or any one else) due to a revolution, then that would be the eye opener people need, to realize that the country is fucked and the government is to blame

Scary thing is...I would die for the cause...weird, huh?
 
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