DankTankerous
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So there is a guy on IG called The Nature Farm, and supposedly he has the original strains: pre-Skunkman Sam Skunk strains etc. he is a great grower, I’m just skeptical about them being the original.
The Nature Farm Genetics, is he legit?
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Spondylo Grow
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jayblaze710
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He probably has one of the best collection of older elites around. I personally wanna try his Grass Valley OG cross, apparently comes out the same as LA Pure Kush in phylos. I’m guessing Topanga/GVOG/LAPK are all the same or very similar and the more OG kush, and Malibu/Hollywood Pure Kush is the more marshmallow lime kush.
DankTankerous
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Sweet, he has quite the selection, I can’t wait to get some of his seeds
TheCatOutRanksYou
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Anyone who goes through Nature Farm that can tell me how the experience is? I'm interested in the WindWalker OG if you've gotten that from them let me know how it went. I hear good things but his site seems a little sketchy to me. Very little detail about anything and no pictures at all for the WW OG I'm interested in.
maurostu04
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DankTankerous
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Yep still curious here
greywind
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Check on IG, lots of negativity surrounding this guy right now, and the hate being directed at him is coming from some accomplished names in the game. I personally have no knowledge of or experience with him, but he's being accused of some shady shit on my IG feed. Just an FYI. Happy hunting all!
jayblaze710
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I’ve been seeing it too. Who is it coming from other than Shoe @HeadieGardens? Is @lf_oompapa loompa? So far a shit load of finger pointing without any proof or any explanation of why they’re so pissy. So...??
shoe said he lied to get said "elite cuts" then shoe said the cuts nature farm has are fakes and that nature is predating stuff.
did nature lie to get fake cuts?
or is shoes statements just accusations that contradict them selves?
it seems to me just 1 being pissed that another has something. that is my take and I could be wrong, but I will just continue to dissect the comments.
did nature lie to get fake cuts?
or is shoes statements just accusations that contradict them selves?
it seems to me just 1 being pissed that another has something. that is my take and I could be wrong, but I will just continue to dissect the comments.
DankTankerous
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I’ve been watching it too. I’ve always been suspicious like how does this dude have so many elite clones. His plants do look great though, so the guy can grow. But idk, it has kept me from buying though
jimihendrix1
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MOST of all the siht is against RIOT SEEDS, and Cohorts.
You can believe what you want.
Nature Farm has the Genetics.
Swami, and other highly known, and reputed breeders are also friends with this guy. Ill take Swamis word.
The only 1s spreading rumors are Riot, Master Thai, who IS Uncle Festers Nephew, who the Nor Cal Crowd basically ran out of business because he was charging to much, and ripping people off with the Uncle Fester Genes.
RIOT had S1's of them for sale for $500 a pack!!!!! WTF???
And he/friends are calling out TNF??? 
The Nature farm also says MT has the Real Stuff, some of the best genetics in the world, but isn't right and tryong to make to much $$$ from the genetics.
Dude was charging $200+ a pack for crosses with the Sk18. U Mello selling them for $80
Nature Farm sells them for $80 a pack man. Come on, and they are 100% real.
Yep, weve grown them, and they are what he represents them to be.
Just getting ready to start another pack of them, and Dominion Local Skunk.
The reason Clackamass COOT left this, and other forums was because of sensless attacks, and people coming on forums who don't know shit, and spread rumors.
U MELLO has NEVER represented this strain as an RKS EITHER, ans there Is NO line that throws all RKS.
Where did UK Cheese come from?? And others?? ALL Phenos from Super Sativa Seed Club, which were originally the same genetics as what was taken to Europe, but them further bred to have the REEK taken out, and Sweet added.
The Nature Farm are also responsible for supplying Coastal Seeds with the Original 95 Black Domina Cut, The 79 Romulan Cut, and others Coastal Seeds used in the Heirloon NL1 Crosses, which are still available, if you live in California, of which I unfortunately don't, so Im shit out of luck for some 89 NL5 x NL1 seeds.
Also from my understanding is Nature Farm Guy Inherited all these cuts from his father, and The Nature Farm guy in not an old guy. I believe in his 30s.
You also have to relize this guy lives in the Heart of Weed Country, and if you don't think many of these old genetics are not around, youre wrong.
But I could care less myself if anyone buys them or not, as I aint makin nothing from suggesting the guy.
All I know the shit is killer potent, most all of it is skunky, just not RKS, but it does REEK, and will smell halfway down the block if you have several plants.
Also if you follow, he shows every plant hes gong to breed, and descriptions of everything hes doing, so until the haters do the same, Id never listen t them.
Right now, he is trying to more Isolate the RKS, is showing the WHOLE PROCESS, and wants to make it more common, but hes not going to bottle neck it so far down, it loses diversity, like everything now days has become.
You can believe what you want.
Nature Farm has the Genetics.
Swami, and other highly known, and reputed breeders are also friends with this guy. Ill take Swamis word.
The only 1s spreading rumors are Riot, Master Thai, who IS Uncle Festers Nephew, who the Nor Cal Crowd basically ran out of business because he was charging to much, and ripping people off with the Uncle Fester Genes.
RIOT had S1's of them for sale for $500 a pack!!!!! WTF???
And he/friends are calling out TNF??? The Nature farm also says MT has the Real Stuff, some of the best genetics in the world, but isn't right and tryong to make to much $$$ from the genetics.
Dude was charging $200+ a pack for crosses with the Sk18. U Mello selling them for $80
Nature Farm sells them for $80 a pack man. Come on, and they are 100% real.
Yep, weve grown them, and they are what he represents them to be.
Just getting ready to start another pack of them, and Dominion Local Skunk.
The reason Clackamass COOT left this, and other forums was because of sensless attacks, and people coming on forums who don't know shit, and spread rumors.
U MELLO has NEVER represented this strain as an RKS EITHER, ans there Is NO line that throws all RKS.
Where did UK Cheese come from?? And others?? ALL Phenos from Super Sativa Seed Club, which were originally the same genetics as what was taken to Europe, but them further bred to have the REEK taken out, and Sweet added.
The Nature Farm are also responsible for supplying Coastal Seeds with the Original 95 Black Domina Cut, The 79 Romulan Cut, and others Coastal Seeds used in the Heirloon NL1 Crosses, which are still available, if you live in California, of which I unfortunately don't, so Im shit out of luck for some 89 NL5 x NL1 seeds.
Also from my understanding is Nature Farm Guy Inherited all these cuts from his father, and The Nature Farm guy in not an old guy. I believe in his 30s.
You also have to relize this guy lives in the Heart of Weed Country, and if you don't think many of these old genetics are not around, youre wrong.
But I could care less myself if anyone buys them or not, as I aint makin nothing from suggesting the guy.
All I know the shit is killer potent, most all of it is skunky, just not RKS, but it does REEK, and will smell halfway down the block if you have several plants.
Also if you follow, he shows every plant hes gong to breed, and descriptions of everything hes doing, so until the haters do the same, Id never listen t them.
Right now, he is trying to more Isolate the RKS, is showing the WHOLE PROCESS, and wants to make it more common, but hes not going to bottle neck it so far down, it loses diversity, like everything now days has become.
DankTankerous
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Thank you for the feedback
N.R.G.
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Shoe is well respected and well known and has been around for a long time. I don't think he would make anything up or be jealous someone "has" something. The whole story behind that Uncle Festers 1969 sounds extremely ridiculous to me.
jayblaze710
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It might be ridiculous but it’s also not the Nature Farms story. It’s Uncle Fester’s and Master Thai, who is his nephew.
And Shoe is well respected, but he’s also done nothing but make claims without any sort of evidence, he’s also going so far as to accuse Mello of domestic abuse, which is fucking crazy.
The craziest thing I see Mello showing is his 78 LA OG Affie, now that one’s a fucking stretch. The only cut I’ve ever heard of going back that far is Romulan, and even that one isn’t guaranteed. Other than that, I think people can trace Urkle back to the early 90s and I think that’s about it. OG has only been around since the late 90s. There’s no way that cut is from 78.
BUT, Bodhi and every other breeder also has skeptical stuff too. Nepali OG may not be an OG or from Nepal. His Iranian “primordial OG” used in Ancient OG probably isn’t what it was claimed to be. There was the whole Chem91 JB cut fiasco. Also, he apparently has a pre-pre-98 Bubba Kush cut which may or may not pre-date the Pre-98. I’m not flinging mud at Bodhi, he’s the best around in my opinion. It’s just an unfortunate aspect of cannabis breeding. There are tall tales tied to every cut.
However, if Mello is scamming people or renaming cuts, then that’s bullshit. But so far, all I’ve seen is finger pointing and incoherent claims. I have no idea who to believe or even what Shoe or Mello is even trying to say half the time. It’s like watching idiots debate. So, I guess fuck them both?
jimihendrix1
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TNF not afraid to have his gear Phylos tested, to see exactly what the genetics are, and while it doesn't mean its Skunk, it is NOT Closely Related to anything that has already don't Phylos Testing, and is in the Database, which is in the 10,000's. So the genetics are NOT COMMON.
UF goes way before 90s man.
Super Sativa Seed Club was in the 80s, and advertised in High Times, as did Nevil of the Seed Bank. SSSC stock came from UF, and was the same stuff, just different selections, from different breeders.
Im sure many don't know of them, but I was getting stuff since they 1st started selling it through HT. Most of the time, the genetics came from California, and Not Holland. Santa Barbara is where many of my seeds were mailed from. in 1984/85
Im not going o get into the whole thing, but Uncle Festers came from Sacred Seeds, which Sam/The RATMAN/Skunkman was an apprentice grower, and got into trouble, worked with the DEA, had Sacred Seeds Busted, DEA left plants with rootballs still intact in the Dumpster/Garbage, lbs, and lbs of seeds, and left it unguarded, overnight, and Ratman, came and got the shit out of the trash.
They left it there for him to get. And some need to Get Real. Cops/DEA didn't leave it unguarded due to incompetence. They left if for RATMAN.
He took it, and ended up taking the genetics to Europe, and distributed it to Cultivators Choice, Super Sativa Seed Club, Nevil, Flying Dutchmen, and others Im sure I missed.
When they all found out Ratman had worked with the DEA, and had Sacred Seeds Busted, they dropped him like a hot potato, but they still retained the original genetics.
Sacred Seeds won the 1st Harvest Fest in Cali, in 1967. For SKUNK. They won 3 years in a row.67-68-69.
Sacred Seeds was an ancient company, and were the 1st to have the Original Romulan.
Anyone know where the Original Romulan came from???
Korea. Korean War, and was brought back to Sacred Seeds, in 1952/53. FACT.
Sacred Seeds had genetics going back to 1915.
The Original Blue Orca, and THE ONE cuts, are both from 83/84. The Original NL5 cut is also from the early 80s, and is still, alive and kicking, and is a Thai dominant. I see no reason to see why things cant be kept going, especially with Micro Tissue Propagation, which U Mello knows how to do, and has be doable at home for over 25 years. I did it in 1994.
All the other Indica type stuff like Sensi was hybridized with Afghan. But Real NL5 isn't Indica Dom. Swami has the original early 80s cut, and U Mello has the hybridized 1989 cut.
But all this stuff is pure fire, and its no sweat off my nuts if anyone wants any of his stuff.
All I can say he posts all of his gear for all to see and like I said, is not afraid to have it genetically tested to map it,, and see what it is, and set a basic standard.
UF goes way before 90s man.
Super Sativa Seed Club was in the 80s, and advertised in High Times, as did Nevil of the Seed Bank. SSSC stock came from UF, and was the same stuff, just different selections, from different breeders.
Im sure many don't know of them, but I was getting stuff since they 1st started selling it through HT. Most of the time, the genetics came from California, and Not Holland. Santa Barbara is where many of my seeds were mailed from. in 1984/85
Im not going o get into the whole thing, but Uncle Festers came from Sacred Seeds, which Sam/The RATMAN/Skunkman was an apprentice grower, and got into trouble, worked with the DEA, had Sacred Seeds Busted, DEA left plants with rootballs still intact in the Dumpster/Garbage, lbs, and lbs of seeds, and left it unguarded, overnight, and Ratman, came and got the shit out of the trash.
They left it there for him to get. And some need to Get Real. Cops/DEA didn't leave it unguarded due to incompetence. They left if for RATMAN.
He took it, and ended up taking the genetics to Europe, and distributed it to Cultivators Choice, Super Sativa Seed Club, Nevil, Flying Dutchmen, and others Im sure I missed.
When they all found out Ratman had worked with the DEA, and had Sacred Seeds Busted, they dropped him like a hot potato, but they still retained the original genetics.
Sacred Seeds won the 1st Harvest Fest in Cali, in 1967. For SKUNK. They won 3 years in a row.67-68-69.
Sacred Seeds was an ancient company, and were the 1st to have the Original Romulan.
Anyone know where the Original Romulan came from???
Korea. Korean War, and was brought back to Sacred Seeds, in 1952/53. FACT.
Sacred Seeds had genetics going back to 1915.
The Original Blue Orca, and THE ONE cuts, are both from 83/84. The Original NL5 cut is also from the early 80s, and is still, alive and kicking, and is a Thai dominant. I see no reason to see why things cant be kept going, especially with Micro Tissue Propagation, which U Mello knows how to do, and has be doable at home for over 25 years. I did it in 1994.
All the other Indica type stuff like Sensi was hybridized with Afghan. But Real NL5 isn't Indica Dom. Swami has the original early 80s cut, and U Mello has the hybridized 1989 cut.
But all this stuff is pure fire, and its no sweat off my nuts if anyone wants any of his stuff.
All I can say he posts all of his gear for all to see and like I said, is not afraid to have it genetically tested to map it,, and see what it is, and set a basic standard.
maxamus1
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Just want to know how you know all this? Were you there or you knew someone in the know or wtf? you seem to have a lot of knowledge about it though.
COGrown
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I wouldn't grow his beans. A lot of his "pre" stuff is obvious bullshit, he claims to have grown "over 800 elite cuts", he never posts late flower pics of any of his 'elites', and a ton of his flower pics look/sound nothing like the strains he is claiming they are. Honestly for someone who claims to be growing organics, i don't see a lot of variation in his pics of plants, whether they are supposed to be hazes or northern lights. His "pre95" black domina looks just like his "C5 haze". Sure, he tricked some people into giving him actual elites, but I'd bet my hat he is 99% full of shit.