The "Freedom Cartoon" .
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medicineman
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medicineman
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FYI, Union-ism brought about the middle class. Capital-ism is wiping it out. Greed-ism is the main contributor.
7xstall
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that's funny because if you overlay a graph depicting union membership numbers with a graph showing the size of middle class America it forms an X.
as they declined in the 50s the middle class exploded. coincidence?
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medicineman
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There would ne no middle class without unions, do a little research on early 20th century labor strife and what the corporations were all about. they are returning to that 1919 mindset, and the middle class is dissapearing faster than you can say Jack Robinson Jones. I guess you are not aware of this where you live, but here in La-La land, foreclosurers are at a record high, the highest in the USA. The American dream has turned into the American nightmare. But I'm sure you don't care as long as you've got yours. That is the emerging picture of your character.that's funny because if you overlay a graph depicting union membership numbers with a graph showing the size of middle class America it forms an X.
as they declined in the 50s the middle class exploded. coincidence?
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medicineman
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Again I repeat: the unions are responsible for getting American workers livable wages and benefits that allowed the middle class to emerge. do some more research. now that union-ism is on the decline and corporat-ism is on the rise, the middle class is going down the shitter. It was these union livable wage jobs that allowed parents to send their kids to college and the emergence of an educated workforce brought about the middle class upsurge in the 50s-70s. Once educated, they saw no need for Unions, hence the decline of union-ism and then 2 generations later as corporat-ism is sweeping America, the fast decline of the middle class is upon us. The corporations have no conscience, remember? They care not about employees or the environment in which they operate. Without Government controls (which you despise) another Bhopal would be eminent.
EarthlyPassions
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Maybe if you guys showed sources? Any proof for what you're arguing about?
I thought it was a cute cartoon, simply replace the disatisfaction of those groups with the capitalistic way with the dissatisfaction that many people have for America in general and it's the same cartoon, give or take a few statistics. (While America used to be the leader in many things, other countries have caught up with us.)
I'm proud to be an American. I know that things aren't perfect, but the great thing about America is that you can change it. You just have to get enough people rallied up to do something.
The problem is that things are so livable for so many people that no one really wants to bother.
I thought it was a cute cartoon, simply replace the disatisfaction of those groups with the capitalistic way with the dissatisfaction that many people have for America in general and it's the same cartoon, give or take a few statistics. (While America used to be the leader in many things, other countries have caught up with us.)
I'm proud to be an American. I know that things aren't perfect, but the great thing about America is that you can change it. You just have to get enough people rallied up to do something.
The problem is that things are so livable for so many people that no one really wants to bother.
medicineman
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The problem is that things are so livable for so many people that no one really wants to bother.
And there it is in a nutshell, I've got mine, fuck you.
And there it is in a nutshell, I've got mine, fuck you.
EarthlyPassions
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Sad but true.
But I'm sure if things did get bad, that we'd see a great response from the common American. Remember 9/11? We really did come together and help each other. People that were still wearing their business suits were helping other people escape from the crash sites. If you look at the pictures you see people like that all over, digging right along side the paramedics.
And there was the plane that the terrorists never got to their target, because the passengers rebelled against them and made them crash somewhere else instead. They could have just sat in their seats and died like everyone else. But they decided to do something instead.
We as Americans have nobility during hardship, bravery in the face of danger, we risk in hope of gaining in return. Is it such a terrible thing that we're presented with these things so little as a whole? That our lives are so comfortable that most people have forgotten that, including ourselves?
All it takes is something to bring us together, and we rise up as one.
But I'm sure if things did get bad, that we'd see a great response from the common American. Remember 9/11? We really did come together and help each other. People that were still wearing their business suits were helping other people escape from the crash sites. If you look at the pictures you see people like that all over, digging right along side the paramedics.
And there was the plane that the terrorists never got to their target, because the passengers rebelled against them and made them crash somewhere else instead. They could have just sat in their seats and died like everyone else. But they decided to do something instead.
We as Americans have nobility during hardship, bravery in the face of danger, we risk in hope of gaining in return. Is it such a terrible thing that we're presented with these things so little as a whole? That our lives are so comfortable that most people have forgotten that, including ourselves?
All it takes is something to bring us together, and we rise up as one.
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