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tampee

tampee

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Unfortunately they don't sell seeds but you and you and you can be better than Shantibaba, DJ Short, Sam The Skunkman, Nevil, Bohdi and all. Of course you will want to source some good genetics preferably not worked too much unless you really love a specific strain. Select the traits you want and after a year you will have a better strain to your liking already and you can continue to breed and select your favorites without paying outrageous amounts of money for bird food.

I used to purchase seeds myself but after breeding I will not purchase seeds unless I intend to breed them and my seeds are amazing.
 
tampee said:
Unfortunately they don't sell seeds but you and you and you can be better than Shantibaba, DJ Short, Sam The Skunkman, Nevil, Bohdi and all. Of course you will want to source some good genetics preferably not worked too much unless you really love a specific strain. Select the traits you want and after a year you will have a better strain to your liking already and you can continue to breed and select your favorites without paying outrageous amounts of money for bird food.

I used to purchase seeds myself but after breeding I will not purchase seeds unless I intend to breed them and my seeds are amazing.
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ahhhhh grasshopper....welcome to the world of the berserker pollen chucker...there is no going back now!
 
That's the path I'm taking but most just don't want to put in that time nor do they have the space to run selections. I really don't have the space I'm a closet grower but I realized I don't need to use 3-5 gal pots to grow dank. I could run the whole garden in solo cups haha but that's a tad bit too small. I still had to downsize it all so now there is plenty of space to do selections 20-30 at a time if I wanted to do it.

I'm pretty much done buying seeds after this Seed Junkie drop. Got enough landrace sativa, OG's, Chem's & of course enough Cookies to make my own gear. Also the way the way seed buying is going the prices are only going to go up & people will justify it for many reasons.
 
higher self said:
That's the path I'm taking but most just don't want to put in that time nor do they have the space to run selections. I really don't have the space I'm a closet grower but I realized I don't need to use 3-5 gal pots to grow dank. I could run the whole garden in solo cups haha but that's a tad bit too small. I still had to downsize it all so now there is plenty of space to do selections 20-30 at a time if I wanted to do it.

I'm pretty much done buying seeds after this Seed Junkie drop. Got enough landrace sativa, OG's, Chem's & of course enough Cookies to make my own gear. Also the way the way seed buying is going the prices are only going to go up & people will justify it for many reasons.
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1000% agree...also the best types ive ever grown were pollen chucks & not from straight bought packs of beans, got lucky with some exceptional gene combinations
 
I hate being so good at picking seeds down to 2 out fo 10 that are not definitely female.
I think they are though as males tend to show sex sooner.
I have a great girl at the moment from the 8, shes a real stinker with very fat stems.
 
A real quality classic breeder grows hundreds of full size plants before narrowing down phenotypes.

And knows from experience which plants he would like to move forward with.

Pollen chucked genetics from a hobbiest or even small breeder can never compare.

And once you cross 2 of your favorite plants you have eliminated the work that the original breeder put in on both of them and now have unknown genetics again.

I do agree that much of the seed market is not putting the proper work in anyway.
 
Seed bank strains are just a starting point, not and end point, like for some.
It really depends on who you are as a person, and the expression of that through your creations.
Bag seeds will always be my favorite way of acquisition of genetics.
Those guys that say they select from thousands are practicing poor breeding techniques.
That's my opinion, not fact.
Just too many expressions to stay focused and stay on point. No matter how good your plan was.
You are just gonna find too many keepers of a huge amount of variance.
Just keeping it simpler and small help one stay focused and able to see their ideas and dreams become reality.
Sucks that you just don't find that many seeds in what you purchase or come across. I used to pray that I would find a seed in certain ultra chronic bags. My favorites were the seed that was deep inside the bud, they were always plump and super dark mature mottled beauty's!
 
greencropper said:
1000% agree...also the best types ive ever grown were pollen chucks & not from straight bought packs of beans, got lucky with some exceptional gene combinations
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I'm sure that's why your focus on the chucks the way you do from those plants you grew. Sure not every chuck is a hit but you won't know until you grow.

MichiganMedGrower said:
A real quality classic breeder grows hundreds of full size plants before narrowing down phenotypes.

And knows from experience which plants he would like to move forward with.

Pollen chucked genetics from a hobbiest or even small breeder can never compare.

And once you cross 2 of your favorite plants you have eliminated the work that the original breeder put in on both of them and now have unknown genetics again.

I do agree that much of the seed market is not putting the proper work in anyway.
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I don't really agree besides last sentence. I mean how many packs do people run through and not find keepers. I rather f1 or f2 the best plants so I can have more seeds to grow. I can't spend $100 each pack just to pheno hunt some f1's, seems like us growers are getting hustled.
chemphlegm said:
I cant trek through the jungles and grow hundreds of selections without being arrested. I love these hero's ,many breeders are straight up marijuana guru's and when you match a vibe you know it. Its like love at first site.
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True but when one plant gets you arrested might as well go all out haha!
 
MichiganMedGrower said:
A real quality classic breeder grows hundreds of full size plants before narrowing down phenotypes.

And knows from experience which plants he would like to move forward with.

Pollen chucked genetics from a hobbiest or even small breeder can never compare.

And once you cross 2 of your favorite plants you have eliminated the work that the original breeder put in on both of them and now have unknown genetics again.

I do agree that much of the seed market is not putting the proper work in anyway.
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i dont agree that chucked genetics can never compare, because its all about certain gene combinations...yes sometimes chucked types do not pan out, though really its all about numbers & odds, eventually a rare combination of very suitable genes will occur...then the offspring will be 'the one'
 
I think it is really going to start messing with genetics. Everything will taste the same.
There are only so many terpenes. I am using plants from the same landrace but selecting for robustness, fast growing and good smell.
This is only to bring out good qualities already there. Not to mix up something "new".

Sometimes ugly daddies have beautiful daughters.
 
kona gold said:
Seed bank strains are just a starting point, not and end point, like for some.
It really depends on who you are as a person, and the expression of that through your creations.
Bag seeds will always be my favorite way of acquisition of genetics.
Those guys that say they select from thousands are practicing poor breeding techniques.
That's my opinion, not fact.
Just too many expressions to stay focused and stay on point. No matter how good your plan was.
You are just gonna find too many keepers of a huge amount of variance.
Just keeping it simpler and small help one stay focused and able to see their ideas and dreams become reality.
Sucks that you just don't find that many seeds in what you purchase or come across. I used to pray that I would find a seed in certain ultra chronic bags. My favorites were the seed that was deep inside the bud, they were always plump and super dark mature mottled beauty's!
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S-1 seeds from a bag of good pot can end up being a very similar pheno. So it's a good bet and already feminized for us.

But I posted above about great classic breeders. I said 100's of plants. You stretched to 1000's.

I mean 100's of the same plants seeds. And my favorite one pulled out of the seedbanks years ago because of their lack of pay and possible substituting other free seeds than claimed.

Worse possibility of getting different seeds than you order if using out of package stealth or single seed orders. Or old seeds sold are very common.

I say order only direct from breeders. They should stand behind their work. And they should answer questions.
 
higher self said:
You still have those keepers going? What I meant was seems like people are going from one strain to the next so the keepers must not be keepers or we just like variety of growing something different.
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I'd have hundreds If I could, but no as I matured so did my needs. I learned what and why I enjoyed certain varieties and began seeking out solid reps of what it was. In between I'll admit to being tempted by many suggestions and sampling them. they were all great(cept those 2). what I'm saying is every strain(but 2) have been great. every female has been a star. do some grow better, show a different expression , sure, but still great, unless I failed along the way. I kept them all through the years, 2 have made the cut since, and the remaining are solid chemdog reps now. Greenpoint has set the barr imo and changed up some of my game. Had I found his gear decades ago I wouldnt have spent time and cash on all those other keepers.
keeper to me is=am I proud of this one? did it grow nicely? did it like my garden habits? did it exhibit any issues? were the effects in line with what we like? was the result a legitimate one/repeatable?= keeper....not that I have to have it forever, although if I could I would have fields of my past keepers full time for that variety we all love.
 
higher self said:
I'm sure that's why your focus on the chucks the way you do from those plants you grew. Sure not every chuck is a hit but you won't know until you grow.




I don't really agree besides last sentence. I mean how many packs do people run through and not find keepers. I rather f1 or f2 the best plants so I can have more seeds to grow. I can't spend $100 each pack just to pheno hunt some f1's, seems like us growers are getting hustled.


True but when one plant gets you arrested might as well go all out haha!
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I have found a breeder that only wants quality highs and medical effects and is not caught up in the high thc bullshit. He doesn't even really sell packs anymore. Just bulk seeds in Europe.

I have never seen more than 5 different phenos from many packs of the same strain or cross from him.

And most every plant could be considered a "keeper".

The fact that you feel you have to pheno hunt is proof that the seeds were not well bred.

I never feel that way. I am happy to grow from his feminized seeds only but out of continued curiosity I try other breeders and even growers seeds all the time in my perpetual garden.

Only a few plants have stood up to the challenge.

Quite a few patients even in Colorado now agree. And the Colorado patients can get weed on every corner.

Because of misconception and greed. Legal weed is destroying the high weed used to have. It is not profitable anymore to take all the steps needed to breed and stabilize the plant.

More profitable to just cross "elite" clones and sell 100 dollar or more packs.

I pay about 35 to 70 max for 5 seeds. Charging more is just for profit and ego in my opinion.
 
greencropper said:
i dont agree that chucked genetics can never compare, because its all about certain gene combinations...yes sometimes chucked types do not pan out, though really its all about numbers & odds, eventually a rare combination of very suitable genes will occur...then the offspring will be 'the one'
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You can get lucky. How much is your time and electricity and such worth though?
 
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