The age old Temperature Conundrum ? Put your 2 cents in PLEASE !

wannasmokeweed

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OK.... So after some MORE research, I have found that the majority of growers (with the exception of commercial set ups), you know, us folks just trying to get away from Buying it say this....
During flower stage it is normal (in nature and therefor in our "created environment") for the temps to drop at night, and rise during the day.
That being said, I cannot find any common ground on what is acceptable with this fluctuation. Some say as low as "Low 60's" during night cycle and as high as "Low 80's" during daylight cycle. As well as EVERY possible combination of highs and lows within that range.
If I don't change a thing, leave my exhaust running during night cycle (passive intake getting air from the room) my temps go down to 67 degrees with the lights off and up to 78-80 with the lights on.
Anyone feel like jumping in here to add their 2 cents or better yet their EXPERIENCE with this conundrum ?
Peace :leaf:
 
At low temperatures, under 65 degrees,
the photosynthesis rate and growth are
slowed. The difference in growth rate is not
readily apparent if the temperature dips
once in a while or the low temperatures are
not extreme. However, temperatures under
50-55 degrees virtually stop growth.
Temperatures in the 40’s cause slight
temporary tissue damage. When
temperatures dip into the high thirties tissue
damage which takes several days to repair
may result, especially in older plants.
When temperatures rise above 78
degrees, cannabis’ rate of growth slows
once again as the plant uses part of its
energy to dissipate heat and keep its water
content constant. The rate of growth
continues to slow as the temperature rises.
Photosynthesis and growth stop
somewhere in the 90’s.
When the lights are off, photosynthesis
stops. Instead, the plants use the sugars
and starches for energy and tissue building.
The plants do best when the temperature is
lower during this part of the cycle. The fact
that the lamps are off will lower the
temperature quite a bit, and ventilation can​
be used to cool the space down.
From Ed Rosenthals Book, Closet Cultivaor

 
At low temperatures, under 65 degrees,
the photosynthesis rate and growth are
slowed. The difference in growth rate is not
readily apparent if the temperature dips
once in a while or the low temperatures are
not extreme. However, temperatures under
50-55 degrees virtually stop growth.
Temperatures in the 40’s cause slight
temporary tissue damage. When
temperatures dip into the high thirties tissue
damage which takes several days to repair
may result, especially in older plants.
When temperatures rise above 78
degrees, cannabis’ rate of growth slows
once again as the plant uses part of its
energy to dissipate heat and keep its water
content constant. The rate of growth
continues to slow as the temperature rises.
Photosynthesis and growth stop
somewhere in the 90’s.
When the lights are off, photosynthesis
stops. Instead, the plants use the sugars
and starches for energy and tissue building.
The plants do best when the temperature is
lower during this part of the cycle. The fact
that the lamps are off will lower the
temperature quite a bit, and ventilation can​
be used to cool the space down.
From Ed Rosenthals Book, Closet Cultivaor


Thanks Auldone. I actually read that piece.
Contrary to what Ed. has to say, there is a substantial amount of other information out there that contradicts him considerably. By that I mean there are people suggesting that are getting GREAT results with lows and highs much different that what he suggests is acceptable. Hence my choice of the word "conundrum" :)
I don't know, perhaps I will just go with it and find out for myself what is acceptable or not with the strain I grow. There is the obvious downside to growing by trial and error !! Ha
Thanks for the post Man
Peace
 
Shutting off my exhaust during the night cycle certainly helps the issue, I just found that I can keep it around 70 - 72 if I do this. Does anyone have any opinion on whether or not this is a good or a bad idea to shut EVERYTHING off. I realize it does effect the amount of fresh air for that period.
????
 
Since marijuana varieties are most often grown in semi-tropical and tropical areas, the idea that high temperatures are necessary for potent marijuana is firmly entrenched in marijuana lore. This myth, like many others, is slowly disappearing as marijuana farmers and researchers accumulate more experience and knowledge. There are only a few published papers on the effects of temperature on potency. The best study we've seen 19 grew four different varieties in a controlled environment under artificial lights on a 15-hour day-length. Two temperature regimes were used: a "warm" regime, with temperatures of about 73F during the day and 61F at night (about average for most homes); and a "hot" regime, set at 90F daytime and 73F at night. In all four varieties, the concentration of THC and of total cannabinoids was higher under the "warm" regime. For instance, a Nepalese strain was 3.4 times higher in concentration of total cannabinoids, and 4.4 times higher in THC, when grown under the "warm" regime than the same strain grown under the "hot" regime. Although we agree with the findings in principle, these figures are higher than our experience tells us.
Interpretation of the data does show one point clearly. In all four varieties, the amount of THC lost as CBN was higher under the "hot" regime (see Table 16 - currently excluded from this guide), even though the concentration of THC was higher under the "warm" regime.
Another research group in France has looked at the relationship of potency to temperature. The most recent paper 79 compared four temperature regimes, given in descending order of potencies found: 75F day, 75F night (highest potency); 72F day, 54F night; 81F day, 81F night; and 90F day, 54F night (lowest concentration of THC). In each, the day period was 16 hours and the night period eight hours.
Interestingly, this same research group in an earlier paper 20 reported that the concentration of THC was higher for male plants grown at 90-72F then for those grown at 72-54F. For the female plants, the differences in THC concentration were small. The variety used was a propyl variety (type IV) containing about half as much THCV as THC. For both the male and female plants, the concentration of THCV were high under the 90-72F regime.
The simplest interpretation of all these results is that mild temperatures seem to be optimum for potency. Temperatures over 90F or below 60F seem to decrease the concentration of THC and total cannabinoids. Also, at higher temperatures, much more THC will be lost as CBN. And last, propyl varieties may produce less THCV under a cool regime. Bear in mind that none of these papers accounted for all of the many variables that could have affected the findings. For instance, the concentration of THC was 18 times higher at 75-75F than at 90-54F. We've never seen differences of this magnitude, and sampling error undoubtedly influenced the findings.
In terms of growth rate and potency, daily temperatures of about 75F, give or take a few degrees, are roughly optimum. Normal household temperatures are in the low 70's during daytime and the low 60's at night. The heat from a light system will raise the garden's temperature a few degrees. In most gardens temperatures will be near 75F during the day. Night-time temperatures drop about 10 to 15 degrees. When night-time temperatures drop into the 50's or below, set the light cycle to turn on during the early morning, when the temperature will be lowest. In a small room, the light system will generate enough heat to warm the garden without any need for a heater. Whenever you wish to raise the temperature by, say, five or 10 degrees, it is better to add more lights than a heater. The plants will benefit from the additional light, as well as from the heat they generate. And an electric heater, watt for watt, doesn't generate much more heat than a lamp and its fixture.
 
Any ideas on ways to heat up a space (thats been getting down below 35* lately) that wont break the bank? I recently had a very bad experience with a 1500W space heater that gave me a 500$ power bill! The space is about 15x15x15 and is pretty influenced by the weather; which wasnt such a bad thing in the summer but sucks now. Any thoughts?
 
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