Tell us where people are growing medical cannabis, town asks Health Canada

gb123

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HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH BREACH! BREACH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Township of North Dundas resident growing 150 cannabis plants legally calls town's request 'hysteria'

A fire at a home where 200 medical cannabis plants were being grown highlights gaps in federal regulations that are leaving municipalities unaware of potential dangers, the mayor of an eastern Ontario township says.

The Township of North Dundas, about an hour south of Ottawa, passed a motion May 8 calling on Health Canada to require municipalities to be notified when a licence to grow hundreds of medical cannabis plants has been issued to a patient.

Without the notification, Mayor Eric Duncan said neighbours are left vulnerable.



Too many plants can create safety issue, Mayor says
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North Dundas Mayor Eric Duncan says the township is primarily concerned about people growing a large number plants without adequate safety measures. 0:21
"We're very concerned. If you don't have the proper electrical and HVAC system for moisture it could cause mould and mildew, and if the electrical system is messed with and not done properly it creates a lot of safety issues, like a large fire," he said.

According to Duncan, someone called the fire department in February to report that an electrical cable outside their neighbour's home was on fire.

OPP in Winchester confirmed the home contained more than 200 cannabis plants, and that two licences had been issued by Health Canada allowing for them. Duncan said police told him each licence allowed for 146 plants, for a total of 292.

'So surprised about the volume'
Police are investigating an alleged electricity theft at the home but no charges have been laid. Officials also found mould growing inside, Duncan said.

"I was very surprised, and most had to read it twice and say, 'Really? That many plants?' Everyone is so surprised about the volume that could be grown in a residential home," he said.

Under Canada's Access to Cannabis for Medical Purposes Regulations (ACMPR), an individual authorized to produce cannabis for their own medical use doesn't have to notify local authorities, but commercial cannabis operations must notify, in writing, the municipality and its fire and police departments.


Cannabis plants grow in a makeshift greenhouse in the home of a man in the Township of North Dundas. He's upset that the township wants Health Canada to tell them he's growing medical cannabis. (Laurie Fagan/CBC )
Duncan said the town supports patients who grow and use medical cannabis, but that there are limits.

"If you're getting above a certain threshold where there's hundreds of plants, we should get notification from Health Canada. And I don't think that is too much to ask, but we were told for privacy reasons they couldn't provide that," he said.

"We just want to know what's going on here. How many others in our community are doing it not to standard and how many might need a permit to make sure it's done safely?"

'It's hysteria,' medical cannabis user says
One man in the township — who spoke to CBC News on the condition of anonymity over fears his home could be broken into — is growing 150 cannabis plants with a Health Canada licence.

Several years ago he was being prescribed seven different opioids to cope with a debilitating injury and PTSD, and said cannabis enabled him to finally kick his opioid addiction.



'This is between me and my doctor'
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A man who grows marijuana for medical purposes and has a license to do so says making it mandatory to notify the municipality would violate his privacy. 0:18
In an interview, the man said he's furious with council's motion asking Health Canada to reveal his status as a medical cannabis user and grower.

"It was draconian.... This is my medical condition, and my medicine, and it's not for recreational use," he said. "Without this stuff my life is not functional. I've been able to come out of the opioid cloud and resume a normal life."

'Highly prejudiced views'
People who use medical cannabis still face a lot of stigma, he added.

"It's hysteria, and what effect would it have on my business and my professional reputation? These are things that people have highly prejudiced views about."

The man said he's abiding by the rules and made the necessary upgrades to his electrical system to safely accommodate his grow operation. His licence allows him to grow 195 plants to meet his daily medical needs, as prescribed by his doctor.


The man said he is abiding by the rules and made the necessary upgrades to accommodate his grow operation. (Laurie Fagan/CBC)
His growing room has high intensity grow lights, and the pungent smell of the plants travels through venting pipes to a carbon filter for cleaning. There was no smell in the room right next to the growing room.

No one from Health Canada was available for an interview, but in an emailed statement the department said individuals producing "a limited amount of cannabis" for their own medical use don't have to notify authorities.

The department will ensure property owners have consented to grow operations and that growers must comply with municipal laws, including bylaws dealing with electrical and fire safety.
 

TheRealDman

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TBH...I do agree there should be a limit on plant numbers, and/or some kind of inspection in a residential dwelling setting. Let be honest, growing a couple of hundred plants in the basement requires extensive modifications to be done right.

Too bad MMJ users don’t have access to proper homeowners insurance coverage. Hellth Canaduh could easily mandate on the ACMPR app that Insurance Co inspections are required for large plant dwelling grows. This would ensure safety/building codes aren’t being sidestepped, and no safety issues will be present for first responders.
 

redi jedi

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TBH...I do agree there should be a limit on plant numbers, and/or some kind of inspection in a residential dwelling setting. Let be honest, growing a couple of hundred plants in the basement requires extensive modifications to be done right.

Too bad MMJ users don’t have access to proper homeowners insurance coverage. Hellth Canaduh could easily mandate on the ACMPR app that Insurance Co inspections are required for large plant dwelling grows. This would ensure safety/building codes aren’t being sidestepped, and no safety issues will be present for first responders.
The average home only has 100 amps of power so there already is a cap on what can practically be done and still have space to live in.
 

gb123

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TBH...I do agree there should be a limit on plant numbers, and/or some kind of inspection in a residential dwelling setting. Let be honest, growing a couple of hundred plants in the basement requires extensive modifications to be done right.

Too bad MMJ users don’t have access to proper homeowners insurance coverage. Hellth Canaduh could easily mandate on the ACMPR app that Insurance Co inspections are required for large plant dwelling grows. This would ensure safety/building codes aren’t being sidestepped, and no safety issues will be present for first responders.
They could designate an amount of watts per plant. That would seal it up to under 100 plants a house pretty quick

although you can grow close to 300 on a 4 by 8 table...no issue...
or 4 under the same amount of light
 

OldMedUser

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It's abuses of the medpot system like a lot do that brings the heat on the rest of us.

I don't care what condition you have you don't need to be growing hundreds of plants just for yourself. They should be going after these criminal medpot clinics that will sell you outrageous limits if your pockets are deep enough.

Do they bitch about all the growers doing veg and herb? No. Doing the same as us but no one is going after them.

:peace:
 

CannaReview

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It's abuses of the medpot system like a lot do that brings the heat on the rest of us.

I don't care what condition you have you don't need to be growing hundreds of plants just for yourself. They should be going after these criminal medpot clinics that will sell you outrageous limits if your pockets are deep enough.

Do they bitch about all the growers doing veg and herb? No. Doing the same as us but no one is going after them.

:peace:
I agree with some limits and common sense but say I don't want to spend 3-4 months growing 25 big plants under say 5-10 lights and can do the same with say 3-4 lights and 49 plants under each light and be done in 8 weeks. This is where my higher GPD is required, not that I need to consume 50 gram per day, its just that the gov tied plant count to grams per day. In reality no one can consumer 50 gram per day and that's just ridiculous to claim you need to consume 50 grams per day. It can get kind muddled when it comes to concentrates vs how much weed it tales to produce a gram of a concentrate but that should be on a case by case basis.
 

gb123

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It's abuses of the medpot system like a lot do that brings the heat on the rest of us.

I don't care what condition you have you don't need to be growing hundreds of plants just for yourself. They should be going after these criminal medpot clinics that will sell you outrageous limits if your pockets are deep enough.

Do they bitch about all the growers doing veg and herb? No. Doing the same as us but no one is going after them.

:peace:
I did sea of green for a reason in hydro.
It could be left for a couple days easily.
300 plants wasn't an issue..plus ones in clone and few moms
so thats...600 with the ones in bud on the table in a 5 by 15 foot area.

that would just get me by for meds...

so I beg to differ with methods of growing how many plants is pertinent.
 

HotKarl2

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Totally agree with GB.
TBH...I do agree there should be a limit on plant numbers, and/or some kind of inspection in a residential dwelling setting. Let be honest, growing a couple of hundred plants in the basement requires extensive modifications to be done right.

Too bad MMJ users don’t have access to proper homeowners insurance coverage. Hellth Canaduh could easily mandate on the ACMPR app that Insurance Co inspections are required for large plant dwelling grows. This would ensure safety/building codes aren’t being sidestepped, and no safety issues will be present for first responders.

Could not disagree more. Like GB said, sea of green. 8x4 has over 100 plants. That is an 8x4 area. Plus, let us not allow HC to dictate what is a "large" plant count. Fuck them, they fuck with our medicine enough.
 

gb123

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4 tables....8 /600 ......
easy deal at home in a 20 by 15 room.

12 hr@4800 watts x (6.5 low to 13.2high)cents kwh.... 4 to 5 bucks per evening give or take...... lol...
plus some cooling..

now Id need...1200 budding
1200 clones rooting...
2400 possible... lol
Now we're talking :lol:
 
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WHATFG

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Well, someone needs to show me the LAW that says that...gb? Patients who meet the requirements of the TEMPORARY injunction have had their ATP/PPL set aside...for now...operate outside of the injunction requirements and you are illegal unless you've registered for the ACMPR.
 

CalyxCrusher

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TBH...I do agree there should be a limit on plant numbers, and/or some kind of inspection in a residential dwelling setting. Let be honest, growing a couple of hundred plants in the basement requires extensive modifications to be done right.

Too bad MMJ users don’t have access to proper homeowners insurance coverage. Hellth Canaduh could easily mandate on the ACMPR app that Insurance Co inspections are required for large plant dwelling grows. This would ensure safety/building codes aren’t being sidestepped, and no safety issues will be present for first responders.
Really? What about a couple of 4X8 tables filled with 1 gallon pots in a SOG? Or the same set up with solo cups? Would that require extensive modifications? What about 4-6 mothers and a few trays of clones to keep the 4X8 SOG going? Hundreds of plants can be done without extensive modifications its a matter of how.....
 

gb123

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Well, someone needs to show me the LAW that says that...gb? Patients who meet the requirements of the TEMPORARY injunction have had their ATP/PPL set aside...for now...operate outside of the injunction requirements and you are illegal unless you've registered for the ACMPR.
truthfully ....

I dont care about any of it anymore.:idea:
I do what I need to do....its that simple.(: Ill take my chances in court...and WIN! ;)

if the rest can't get over it or passed that?!?! That's Their problem.
I've never had an issue using herb in 40 years and I don't plan on it happening now.
Same old same old..shit!:blsmoke:
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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i'm all for government non interference, but what condition does anyone have that requires 100 plants to keep them in weed? are they running dabs in an i.v.?
 

gb123

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i'm all for government non interference, but what condition does anyone have that requires 100 plants to keep them in weed? are they running dabs in an i.v.?
ITS THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT FUCKS US ALL HERE


cancer...
4 grams a day in oil form MINIMUM!
half pound a week if not MORE


so ya an OZ a day or 146 plants..
I dont grow BIG
I grow SMALL

Fast turn around...
less chance of bugs
easy fix if bugs happen and we know they happen
the fucking list goes on and on and on....

this no 100 plant BS is just that!

PPPPHHHTTT
1200 plants in a home at 24 inches is NOTHING
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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i guess, i just run a perpetual that i get a plant out of every week to ten days, and that more than keeps me in meds. guess i'm glad i don't have cancer...yet
 
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